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coldangel
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In my experience a lot of women assume that men's emotions are a lot shallower and more transient than theirs, so they can be easily dismissed. I don't complain about that though - I don't like making a fuss about feelings anyway.
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FENIX
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Well yeah, lads arn't your typical cwtch n cuddle people, we tend to hide our feelings, or blast them out in one go to a confidente. But be honest, tell them how you feel, if you just want to be friends let them know, say summit like "I appreciate your feelings but I just don't feel that way, but I'm more than happy to be friends" try not to lie to them and if they can't accept your true self then they aint worth your time. Of course, I'm stuck where there isn't a bikini for 800 miles, but my men sometimes go on about the girls back home. Tell them the truth, stop hiding it or they'll never know.
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coldangel
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I doubt I'm the type. I enjoy solitude too much. Having people around me for more than an hour or so starts to grate at my nerves.
As for Leela, I don't think she even knows herself.
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coldangel
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« Reply #133 on: 11-07-2006 07:46 »
« Last Edit on: 11-07-2006 07:46 by coldangel_1 »
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Hmmph. She's scared of exposing her own emotional vunerabilities. It's easy for her to go along with guys she barely knows or guys who are clearly pigs, because she has no feelings invested in them. She does with Fry, and that means there's a lot to lose if things go pear-shaped. It's not a picture thread, but I thought I might as well stick this drawing here. Leela's fear is evident in her face, but she's breaking through it:
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coldangel
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It seemed relevant. I was inadvertantly channelling Mulder and Scully in The X-Files movie. Interesting parallels can be drawn between the two couples though.
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coldangel
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Only difference is that with M&S they're just as aloof as each other. Unlike Mulder, Fry is very open about his feelings. But aside from that, they're the classic tormented frustrating 'will-they/won't-they?' romance dynamic originally pioneered by Bruce and Cybil in 'Moonlighting'... (which, come to think of it, is probably a more apt comparison... but I'm a rabid X-Files fan so I relate everything in the world to TXF.)
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coldangel
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Damn straight! Scully was more emotive generally, yeah, but I meant in terms of feelings for each other. There was always clear attraction but neither of them ever really opened up about it in even a subtle way until right at the end.
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Shiny
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Originally posted by Fry_B: You know, I almost believe you ... she was so happy someone really liked her... that she was walking on sunshine, not seeing Fry's misery...
...But no. I can't believe. Since Parasites Lost she knew what Fry felt for her. The worms were not really perverting his mind and made him say impossible things - but rather helping him express himself ! Come On! He even said that (the 'peanut butter' thing). So she knew.
Or did she? She knows he said it...but did the worms help Fry express his feelings, or did they create the feelings in the first place?Or...Leela saw him instructing Zoidberg in the art of "scoring" by "pretending like you're in love." So from Leela's POV, the worms could simply have allowed Fry to "pretend" more believably. And if he was sincere that he loved her, why did he compare her to Amy (who he dated and dumped with callous abandon)? If I was Leela, I'd have plenty of doubts about Fry. WE get to see Fry talking to Bender about Leela, etc.; Leela doesn't. She doens't know WHAT he says about her when she's not there. And just because it's been a while since I made a shameless plug of my own stories.... The Other Side of Parasites
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Writer unit32
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I have sympathy!For Fry.He's the one getting hurt.And that is not just hurt,that is tortured!And Leela...Well,she woke up, had a nice day and in the evening she started her 7 o'clock jerk dating.
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Fry_B
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« Reply #149 on: 11-07-2006 16:41 »
« Last Edit on: 11-07-2006 16:41 »
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Originally posted by jle1993: Shes confused, she doesn't know what she feels, after all the times she been betrayed and bullied of corse she'll be wary! She isn't hurting Fry deliberately, but she isn't sure about him! Well as you can see from the previous postings the question is whether she believes that Fry loves her or not... this is the gist of it. If she does, she is mean and nasty to act like that in The Cyberhouse; if she doesn't, she considers Fry a friend and a confident and thus she tells him what she is going to do with Chaz. I have great doubts about the not believing option as females are known to posess a superpower called intuition (which comes without using a cream). Allegedly this allows them to feel someone's feelings if they are intense enough... or so they say (was it in some commercial about women )
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Shiny
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We're basing our psychology on commercials...? Then come closer...I've got this pan I'm supposed to be frying up the bacon in, but I can think of something else I'd rather do with it... I think she believes that Fry likes her as a friend, plus has the hots for her as a woman (but then, he's had the hots for anything female that crosses his path, including a radiator); how is Leela to know it's more than that? Fry doesn't exactly approach it in the most mature or consistant manner. She may even believe he's totally sincere about it, but Fry can be sincere about something one minute and then be distracted by something sparkly the next and forget all about the first thing. Leela doesn't want to be the toy that gets tossed aside when a new distraction comes along.
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coldangel
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Homer: "Women will like what I tell them to like."
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coldangel
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It was re: his make-up gun.
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Fry_B
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Originally posted by Shiny: We're basing our psychology on commercials...? Then come closer...I've got this pan I'm supposed to be frying up the bacon in, but I can think of something else I'd rather do with it...
I think she believes that Fry likes her as a friend, plus has the hots for her as a woman (but then, he's had the hots for anything female that crosses his path, including a radiator); how is Leela to know it's more than that? Fry doesn't exactly approach it in the most mature or consistant manner. She may even believe he's totally sincere about it, but Fry can be sincere about something one minute and then be distracted by something sparkly the next and forget all about the first thing. Leela doesn't want to be the toy that gets tossed aside when a new distraction comes along. First thank you for keeping the discussion alive here... I wish I was around in more threads but work also needs to be done sometimes...Hmmm... now I see you have a point there (I just deleted two previous versions of this post, I'll never be a professor, in PEEL, I have in fact more chances to do so in real life ). I can see Leela's view on this. She wants to be sure before she gives in. Prob is sometimes (often in real life!) there is not enough time to be sure, you must gamble (hear-hear!)... But CHAZ!... As Ralph Snart said, if he was nice to the orphans, she would've done him right there in the ring (Ok maybe not with the orphans watching and getting ideas)... Do you agree to that ? If so, how come ? Where are all the reservations she has with Fry ? Does she separate 'raw' sex (Chaz?, ?) from possible love (Fry)? She's almost thirty.. she might do that actually.. Phew... am I getting somewhere ? Anyone care to explain ? Did I warn this would be the weirdo thread Oh, also on 'the hots'. You may be aware that men have frequent random sex thoughts. Ask ColdAngel (or Xanfor!, see his Leela tearing suit pic post), this is quite normal behaviour for most men... Leela would have known that. So I believe the 'hots' part is simply background. Is it not flattering for a woman to know a man has 'the hots' for her ? Forget the radiator - if Leela is mature enough she should understand Fry's missing delta brainwave weird aspects (credit to a post 1.5 years old)...plus he is a poor kid from the stupid ages... BTW I saw today Love and Rocket FIRST TIME. I should really watch all eps, there really are parts of Leela's personality I still have not seen. I Loved the last minutes of that episode, more later after I watch it again...
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coldangel
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Leela doesn't know/remember the info about the delta brainwave.
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coldangel
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Guys with ambition are uptight self-obsessed twats.
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