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any1else

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« Reply #360 on: 10-25-2006 07:59 »

But then it would be sticky...
Cyberphobia

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« Reply #361 on: 10-25-2006 08:05 »

I think in a cold room they are more likely to hug up to each other, while in a hot room, they'd wanna keep their distance to stay cool. So cold room is better! And more romantic!
coldangel

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« Reply #362 on: 10-25-2006 08:06 »

Bah! Humbug.

Well, I suppose if Leela gets cold her nipples will poke out through that little tank top. And that's something everyone can enjoy.
Shiny

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« Reply #363 on: 10-25-2006 08:19 »

A cold room, naked.  With one double-sized sleeping bag that can't be unzipped to a blanket configuration. Saturated with pheromones.

But the sex part is easy...how do we keep Leela from rationalizing her emotions away in the morning?
any1else

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« Reply #364 on: 10-25-2006 08:21 »

Keep them in there a second night.
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #365 on: 10-25-2006 08:25 »

Double sized? Why not single, they'd have stay real close to fit.

Who says we're going to let them out?
any1else

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« Reply #366 on: 10-25-2006 08:28 »

May have to let them out if she eventually gets pregnant...
jle1993

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« Reply #367 on: 10-25-2006 08:34 »

Which will happen
Bending Unit 99

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« Reply #368 on: 10-25-2006 08:53 »
« Last Edit on: 10-25-2006 08:53 »

whoa. how did a pic of teenage Fry and Leela going out turn into a discussion about locking fry and leela in a room, trying to force them to have sex?
any1else

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« Reply #369 on: 10-25-2006 09:24 »

You mean it's not an obvious direction of discussion?  confused
jle1993

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« Reply #370 on: 10-25-2006 09:29 »

I suppose we were being abit brash, maybe we should tone it down a bit?
any1else

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« Reply #371 on: 10-25-2006 09:33 »

Yeah. They'll just make-out in the small room, then later, about a year or two, they'll go further, then another year later they'll start having kids.
jle1993

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« Reply #372 on: 10-25-2006 09:43 »

Thats better. They make such a cute couple.
any1else

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« Reply #373 on: 10-25-2006 10:00 »

Or do they...?
I mean, yes.
coldangel

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« Reply #374 on: 10-25-2006 10:34 »

OH MY GOD!!
Maz, you have an ear on your forehead!
any1else

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« Reply #375 on: 10-25-2006 10:53 »

...

"Oh my god. You can talk!"


Yes, Joel. All the better to smell you with my dear.
Tim B

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« Reply #376 on: 10-25-2006 11:46 »
« Last Edit on: 10-25-2006 11:46 »

 
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Posted By coldangel_1:
EDIT: if you were to increase the speed of light you would also have to uniformly increase the various wavelengths of the electro-magnetic spectrum if you wanted to avoid being turned into a human fritter.

That would be correct.  By increasing the speed of light you also increase it's electromagnetic frequency and therefore it's energy content.  But, like you said, if you increase the wavelength proportionally then the frequency would remain the same and so would it's electromagnetic energy and nobody would have to be fried by lethal doses of radiation.

 
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Posted By coldangel_1:
Yeah, but if Farnsworth was telling the truth in Clone of my own then light's universal speed was increased across the board. I argue that this is impossible without deep frying all organic life forms in their own juices.
You answered how you could accomplish this without frying everyone in your previous post.   wink

If they could increase the speed of light then why wouldn't it be plausible that they could also increase its wavelength and thus avoid frying everyone?
Also, the writers claim in several commentaries that it was their intention to have the speed of light increased in the future. They thought it would be more interesting than resorting to the usual "warp drive" cop out.  I hate using this card but if it was the intention of the writers then it can't just be written off as a joke on the professor's part and it's up to us to reconcile it with the laws of physics.   smile

 
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Posted By jle1993:
DAMN YOU ALL, this is a shippy thread, for shippers to talk about shippy things, hence the tittle! Stop confusing me with your science and discuss the good things in life, mainly Fry and Leela
But this is shippy.  We're determining whether Leela could still spot Fry's love letter with a telescope from Earth.
jle1993

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« Reply #377 on: 10-25-2006 12:00 »

FINE, carry on confusing me, as long as its shippy I don't give a damn!
LuvFry

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« Reply #378 on: 10-25-2006 12:00 »

I wish science class was this interesting when I was in high school! I know what it was missing: romance! (not that there weren't rumors)

jle1993: Fry + Leela =  love
(that better?)
jle1993

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« Reply #379 on: 10-25-2006 12:02 »

YAYAYAYAYAY, much better, I understand and I feel warm inside,
or is that just the curry I have for lunch?
Anyway, loving the logic LuvFry.  love

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Apple Tea

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« Reply #380 on: 10-25-2006 16:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Tim B:
  That would be correct.  By increasing the speed of light you also increase it's electromagnetic frequency and therefore it's energy content.  But, like you said, if you increase the wavelength proportionally then the frequency would remain the same and so would it's electromagnetic energy and nobody would have to be fried by lethal doses of radiation.


The whole concept of changing the speed of light doesn't make sense.  Visible light is defined within a given wavelength spectrum, i think about 400-700 nm.  And likewise for frquency.  The only way for gamma rays to remain gamma rays and sunlight to remain sunlight would be if the waves traveled at a speed lower than the new light speed, or they shift the entire spectrum over ie. 700-1200 nm wavelengths for visible light.
Tim B

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« Reply #381 on: 10-25-2006 16:22 »
« Last Edit on: 10-25-2006 16:22 »

   
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Posted by Apple Tea:
The whole concept of changing the speed of light doesn't make sense.
I'm not the one who came up with the idea.  The writers of the show did.  Whether it's plausible or not, it is fact within the Universe of Futurama.
Apple Tea

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« Reply #382 on: 10-25-2006 17:26 »

Hello, i thought i'd try and shed some light on Fry and Leela's relationship.
Now im no psycologist, but I believe Fry has a 7 type personality while Leela has a 3 type:

This is taken from the enneagram institute
To this mix, Threes bring sensitivity to people and how to communicate with them, a sense of propriety, appropriateness, and social conventions, as well as the ability to focus on goals and get them accomplished. Sevens bring a sense of fun and adventure, resilience, and not being overly concerned with failure. Sevens can be spontaneous in ways that are helpful to more self-conscious Threes. Sevens bring breadth of knowledge and experience, boundless enthusiasm and good spirits. Threes bring a focus on goals, on staying practical and grounded, and on observing healthy limits. This can be a fun, articulate, generous pair, virtually sparkling with vitality and the joy of life. This can sometimes seem to others to be an almost magical couple.


Potential Trouble Spots or Issues
This is also an extremely volatile couple: there is almost too much electricity under one roof. A Three/Seven pair always looks like a great couple, but this can also mean having to live up their own hype. They can be exhausting to keep up with and their mutual qualities make it difficult to admit to or look at problems. They both feel the pressure to be "fabulous" and perfect all of the time. Both types seem light-hearted, and unconcerned; yet, in their high-energy routines they often hurt each others without realizing it. Often this results in a backlog of past hurts that have been suppressed until it is too late and too much damage has been done.

Depending on their Level of health, Threes can become workaholics, completely focused on achieving success, building more prestige, and planning career moves with the care of a general, so much so that relationship and family life takes a distinct second place, if that. By contrast, Sevens tend not to take their career as seriously as Threes, always feeling that if things do not go well in one job they can move to something better. On the surface, Threes seem to have as much self-confidence as Sevens; in reality, they do not, which is why they feel they need to promote themselves and their accomplishments. Threes may be envious of the easy success of Sevens, while Sevens may feel that too much fun and enjoyment is being sacrificed for the Three's focus on career. Sevens may get the feeling that they only exist to prop up the Three in various ways. Neither type wants to talk about their shortcomings, failures, or negative feelings and so these topics tend to be avoided for as long as possible. Often either a health or career crisis will bring things to the surface: Sevens do not want to be trapped in a relationship that is no longer enjoyable, Threes do not want to be in a relationship that has failed. Once they doubt that the other is there for them, they turn toward self-centered attitudes which further erode the relationship. A break can come abruptly and be permanent.
fryandlemon

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« Reply #383 on: 10-25-2006 19:23 »
« Last Edit on: 10-25-2006 19:23 »

 
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Posted by Apple Tea:
The whole concept of changing the speed of light doesn't make sense.

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I'm not the one who came up with the idea. The writers of the show did. Whether it's plausible or not, it is fact within the Universe of Futurama.

Well, as far as continuity goes, cartoons aren't known for it, but things in the futurama universe often do keep in continuity.  However there are things that don't.  Like when Fry was told that there was only one parallel universe with them all wearing cowboy hats.  Then we later found out that this wasn't true.

The increasing of the speed of light could have just been a joke.  It's funny because it's just so ridiculous.

If the writers really wanted Leela to see the "I love you" stars, then they would ignore that one explanation by Farnsworth in that one episode, like they ignored the mentioning of only 1 parallel universe in another.

KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #384 on: 10-25-2006 23:05 »

But they didn't know about the other universes when they said there was only one parallel one.
 
Cute pic. I wonder why Fry didn't try anything
like that again. I mean, if he was so bold as to have moved the stars, which could be seen by many planets for millions of miles, why didn't he write something in the sky for her? Much simpler, yes, but probably just as effecient. (If a girl needs entire freakin' stars to be moved for her to like a guy, maybe he should stop trying)I'm talking something along those lines. *Sigh* If only...
Apple Tea

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« Reply #385 on: 10-26-2006 00:19 »

you'd think someone would've bothered taking a picture of it or something
fryandlemon

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« Reply #386 on: 10-26-2006 00:33 »
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The parallel universe isn't the only continuity error.  In one episode Fry "invents" the wheel, which none of the other PE crew have even heard of.  And in the commentary, I think it was David X Cohen that said that after that episode aired they got sent a list by a Futurama fan with a whole bunch of previous wheel references on the show.

Would the writers have added the "cowboy hate wearing universe" joke in if they knew they would be introducing the other universes in a later episode?

 
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you'd think someone would've bothered taking a picture of it or something
Some alien probably did!  Hmmm....

Although, I personally would find it a bit cheesy if Leela did ever see the message.  It would ruin the ending of TKOS, which, though a bit depressing, I felt was perfect.

EDIT:  Hey, I found a wheel!  Four actually, without looking hard at all!

Bending Unit 99

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« Reply #387 on: 10-26-2006 02:31 »

lol!
thats funny
but i don't see any shippy in that pic...
Apple Tea

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« Reply #388 on: 10-26-2006 03:30 »

Where'd the word shippy come from anyways?
coldangel

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« Reply #389 on: 10-26-2006 04:03 »

The number of parallel universes wasn't an error because Farnsworth actually *created* the other parallel universes when he made the box.

Btw - this is my first post on my new computer. I'm still in thr process of installing everything.
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #390 on: 10-26-2006 06:51 »

Apple Tea; 'Shippy' came from relationship
coldangel

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« Reply #391 on: 10-26-2006 07:48 »

I could be wrong, but I think the term was first coined on X-Files forums back in the early to mid 90s in discussions re: the Mulder/Scully relationship. And yes, Relationship = 'ship = shippy.

My new computer is awesome. I just got through trasferring data over from my old hard drive. My old pc had a heart attack, and then I put my fist through it.
Bending Unit 99

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« Reply #392 on: 10-26-2006 07:56 »

lucky coldangel, always getting new computers and mumble mumble mumble

and yay i finally know what "shippy" means
coldangel

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« Reply #393 on: 10-26-2006 08:09 »
« Last Edit on: 10-26-2006 08:09 by coldangel_1 »

Yes, well I'm out $700. I only got it 'cause my old one died. I was planning to upgrade *eventually*, but not at this time. Yet my hand was forced. All I can do to try to recoup is cannibalize components from the old one and try to flog them on eBay.

Anyone want a hard drive? It's full of porn.

I'm just happy I was able to get my new one on the same day my old one died. This is one of the rare instances where capitalism actually worked for the betterment of someone, but just don't tell my buddies in the Communist Party I said that 'cause they'd kick me out.

Pentium 4 is yummy...   big grin  big grin  big grin

Anywho... Watched Luck of the Fryish today. It's not really a shippy ep I know, but I did notice a few things.
At the racetrack, although she rolls her eye as a force of habit, Leela doesn't hesistat to give Fry a kiss for good luck. She also seems to jump at the chance to help him find his clover when he asks her, the enthusiasm to go clambering around in the ruins of Old New York looking for something a sensible person like her would consider to be a silly superstitious piece of junk would be uncharacteristic if she didn't feel close to Fry. Also, she was very sensitive at the end in giving him a moment alone at the gravesite.
Tim B

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« Reply #394 on: 10-26-2006 08:35 »

 
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Posted By fryandlemon:
The increasing of the speed of light could have just been a joke. It's funny because it's just so ridiculous.

Within the context of the show you could be right, Farnsworth only mentions it once, though he's usually correct when it comes to historical facts; however.... 
In multiple commentaries the writers clearly state that the speed of light has been increased by the year 3000.  If you don't believe me, listen to the commentary for the episode "When Aliens Attack."  David X Cohen mentions how they discussed the idea of "old" light and "new" light and whether light created before the speed of light was increased would have sped up.  They decided no, that the "old" light would retain the old lightspeed and "new" light would have the new lightspeed, which is why the broadcast of "Single Female Lawyer" still took a thousand years to reach the Omicronians. [Lrr]LISTEN TO THE COMMENTARY!!!![/Lrr}  big grin

Just Sayin'.  wink
jle1993

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« Reply #395 on: 10-26-2006 08:39 »

I am officaly confused. But on a happy note, a got a new pic in my sig  big grin

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coldangel

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« Reply #396 on: 10-26-2006 08:40 »

It's......... insane. :|
So there are EM waves occupying the Universe that are following two completely different Universal Constants. Gahh!!
Gazzzzznh!
Ugh... damn, I just... a part of my brain actually literally just caught fire.
jle1993

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« Reply #397 on: 10-26-2006 08:47 »

In plain english everyday language, can someone please explain want the hell you're on about and if she'll be able to see the message or not, be for I blow up from overload
*Hears ticking*
Too Late
*explodes*

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coldangel

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« Reply #398 on: 10-26-2006 08:50 »

I'm just flabbergasted that a lighthearted half-hour comedy animation would have scientific inaccuracies. What's the world coming to?

Oh well. Poor Fry, he didn't get any tongue luck.
Tim B

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« Reply #399 on: 10-26-2006 08:57 »
« Last Edit on: 10-26-2006 08:57 »

Well thats what you get when half your writing staff has advanced degrees in physics. 
For the record, I have no idea how they could increase the speed of light and have everything work out, it's just that it is a fact of life within the Futurama Universe.

@jle1993: They would not be able to see the message.  The light from Fry's message would travel at the "increased" speed of light back to Earth, but since the PE ship cannot travel faster than the speed of light, they would not be able to return to Earth and view the message.  Think of it as a race and that the light from Fry's message would beat them back to Earth.

 
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Posted By coldangel_1
It's......... insane. :|
So there are EM waves occupying the Universe that are following two completely different Universal Constants. Gahh!!
Gazzzzznh!
Ugh... damn, I just... a part of my brain actually literally just caught fire.

That made me laugh so hard my coworker sitting next to me gave me a look.  big grin  I know it doesn't seem to make any sense, but it is fun trying to puzzle out ways that it could work and still fit within our knowledge of physics.  wink
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