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dawoodz
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« on: 08-26-2006 15:17 »

If you have a question on a character that you think other people might be interested in or want to talk about then, instead of opening a new topic, you can post it here:

Why does Bender carry a camera around with him, and take photos when, he is a camera himself and as a robot with no emotion, they have no centimental value to him?

This is not a Answer-Question-Answer-Question type thing
Benders_Fan

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« Reply #1 on: 08-26-2006 15:57 »

Wow, ya know, I've never thought about that question before. But you have a point. Why does he take pictures when they'll mean nothing to him? I'd like this question answered too.
dawoodz
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« Reply #2 on: 08-26-2006 16:20 »

I think that was implied in my question:

 
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Originally posted by dawoodz:
Why does Bender carry a camera around with him and take photos when......they have no centimental value to him?

.....but never mind, I don't think its the kind of question that will get a direct answer, but, it could be a talking point.
Benders_Fan

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« Reply #3 on: 08-26-2006 16:24 »

I know, I'm stating nearly the same thing because it's a good question.
tyraniak

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« Reply #4 on: 08-26-2006 16:35 »

Well, Bender does have more sentiment than he lets off, just look at the drawing in the cyber house rules, plus he also does like having a good time, so he'd like to remember that
KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #5 on: 08-26-2006 16:43 »

Yah. Plus if he carries a camera he will be able to catch every embaressing thing the PE crew members do, thus being able to hold them at ransom. It's handy to have it around just in case. You never know how much money an embaressing photo could get you... wink
dawoodz
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« Reply #6 on: 08-26-2006 16:58 »

....I suppose that explains most of it, he took a picture of Kifs babies, I dunno how that would count as a fun time, or a holding to ransom photo....I guess there are many more reasons to explore.
tyraniak

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« Reply #7 on: 08-26-2006 19:59 »

Remember he did post a picture of Leela naked with Amy's head over it on the internet, if I only I had that website
dawoodz
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« Reply #8 on: 08-27-2006 14:27 »

What do people think about Bender's hatred towards Kiff? They don't see much of each other, but, whenever Bender is around Kiff he is meaner than usual to him, wonder if anyone noticed.
tyraniak

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« Reply #9 on: 08-27-2006 16:43 »

Well, Kif's a pushover like Zoidberg, and that's the type of person Bender's hardest on because he can be
KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #10 on: 08-27-2006 22:20 »

That sounds like something Bender would do.
dawoodz
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« Reply #11 on: 08-28-2006 07:32 »
« Last Edit on: 09-03-2006 00:00 »

I wouldn't say that Zoidberg is a total push-over, he does stand his ground on occasions, and, he is certainly more malicious than Kif, remeber when he framed Fry. I would say that Zoidberg is more of an innocent character than a push-over.

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Who is the character 3rd in from right?

dawoodz
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« Reply #12 on: 08-28-2006 14:17 »
« Last Edit on: 08-28-2006 14:17 »

IGNORE!
TomAllen

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« Reply #13 on: 08-29-2006 10:37 »

Why does Bender carry a camera around with him?

Well, why do humans use cameras?  After all, like robots, we have memories.  But we like photos because -- probably like Bender -- our memories degrade with time.

Also, I can't believe that Bender (or other robots) have no emotion.  Many times in _Futurama_ it's shown that Bender has feelings.  He feels friendship, jealousy, ambition, greed, sympathy toward turtles, and more.  His feelings are just ... different than human feelings, that's all.

dawoodz
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« Reply #14 on: 08-29-2006 10:58 »

 
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Originally posted by TomAllen:
Also, I can't believe that Bender (or other robots) have no emotion.  Many times in _Futurama_ it's shown that Bender has feelings.  He feels friendship, jealousy, ambition, greed, sympathy toward turtles, and more.  His feelings are just ... different than human feelings, that's all.

What about "I second that emotion"?

....and also, Bender himself his a camera, thtas another reason why he has no need for a camera (mentioned above).
SpaceCase

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« Reply #15 on: 08-30-2006 11:50 »

 
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Originally posted by TomAllen:
Also, I can't believe that Bender (or other robots) have no emotion.  Many times in _Futurama_ it's shown that Bender has feelings.  He feels friendship, jealousy, ambition, greed, sympathy toward turtles, and more.
I always thought that was the joke:
Officially, robots donít have emotion, even though Bender, Anglene, Hedonism-bot, Calculon, et al obviously do.
TomAllen

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« Reply #16 on: 08-31-2006 09:34 »

See, I always thought that, in _Futurama_, the idea that "robots don't have emotion" was the joke within the joke too.  After all, in most science fiction shows, robots are supposed to be unemotional.  But in _Futurama_, most robots in fact are emotional.  (Bender, Anglene, others that SpaceCase mentioned, heck, even the Planet Express autopilot.  Oh, and good ol' Roberto.  And Flexo.  And...)

Robots in _Futurama_ may not feel exactly the same emotions that humans do, but they obviously do feel emotions.  (And that makes me sad.  Or angry.  Heh-heh:  Who said those robot quotes?)

Which, I bet, is why John Di Maggio got the gig as Bender.  On the commentary, they say lots of people tried to do the robot as unemotional.  Di Maggio did the voice as a crass, cynical a**hole.  And really, I can't imagine Bender being voiced in any other way.
KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #17 on: 08-31-2006 11:16 »

Yah. I can't stand to think of Bender as anything but a selfish, self-serving, yet lovable jerk.
 
Gopher

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« Reply #18 on: 08-31-2006 22:20 »

 
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SpaceCase said:
I always thought that was the joke:
Officially, robots donít have emotion, even though Bender, Anglene, Hedonism-bot, Calculon, et al obviously do.
I agree; in fact, I always thought it was a specific reference to Data on ST:TNG, who was constantly showing emotions, just not overtly, and they were always rationalized to a high degree, usually by him or other people. Many highly-emotional people are the same way, and they often think they are being completely rational.
dawoodz
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« Reply #19 on: 09-03-2006 07:45 »
« Last Edit on: 09-03-2006 07:45 »

 
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Originally posted by dawoodz:
Edit:

Who is the character 3rd in from right?


Ralph Snart

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« Reply #20 on: 09-03-2006 07:59 »

If you mean 3rd from the right starting with Michelle, the 21st century chick that Fry picked up at The Hip Joint in LLLIS.

So from left to right:  Radiator, Petunia, 21st Century chick, Morgan Proctor, Michelle.
SpaceCase

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« Reply #21 on: 09-03-2006 08:54 »

[*Snaps fingers*]
Beaten to the punch by Ralph again...  wink
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Originally posted by Gopher:
... Data on ST:TNG, who was constantly showing emotions...
Huh.
I never 'got' that from ST:TNG
TriggerHappyJim

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« Reply #22 on: 09-03-2006 09:54 »

 
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Originally posted by dawoodz:
Who is the character 3rd in from right?


Do you reckon that little bit is a nod of the head to Richard Pryor?

"Jim, do you ever post anything relevant, EVER?" - Punching Bag

Expect gaps between posts. And I'm not talking size here.
Xanfor

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« Reply #23 on: 09-04-2006 09:16 »
« Last Edit on: 09-04-2006 09:16 »



If this helps... Maybe.

Man, I'm annoying...

Also, what about the girl second in from the left? (Counting the radiator.) When did Fry ever... Eh-hem, with her?



SpaceCase

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« Reply #24 on: 09-04-2006 11:32 »

 
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Originally posted by Xanfor:
... Also, what about the girl second in from the left? (Counting the radiator.) When did Fry ever... Eh-hem, with her?

[Image]

Fry didn't "eh-hem" with her - and by the way her name is Petunia.

That grab is from "The Sting," most of which is Leela's space-bee toxin induced comatose hallucination.

Anything therein isn't necessarily true, Leela merely needs to believe it's true.
She may have thought Fry and Petunia "eh-hemm'ed," but I'll be hanged if I know when, where, or why.
[*Shudder*]
Neither do I want to...   no no

Though it makes a good gag joke.
Sorry, poor choice of words there...
Shiny

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« Reply #25 on: 09-04-2006 12:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Gopher:
... Data on ST:TNG, who was constantly showing emotions...

Originally posted by SpaceCase:
Huh.
I never 'got' that from ST:TNG

Even though in the pilot, he admitted to wanting most of all to be human, and "want" is an emotion?  wink

(Hey, I didn't even watch TNG for long, and I can name even more off the top of my head: he valued his friendship with Geordie, and with the rest of the crew.  He showed curiosity.  He could feel moral outrage - when he tried to kill "The Collector," there was definitely a trace of rage and/or hatred in his demeanor. 

But most telling of all IMHO, he valued his cat, Spot.  Other cat owners, back me up on this one: unlike a dog (who can serve as a warning system and/or a protective measure) a cat has no purely practical use to modern people, who don't have grain stores that need protecting from rodents and such.  To a technological city (or starship) dweller, a cat's value as a pet lies ONLY in the emotional rewards of amusement, companionship, and affection.  Now, would a cold, logical, emotionless being pointlessly waste the time and effort needed to feed, "train," care for and clean up after a cat if he got no reward in return?  Hmmmmmmm?   big grin )

And now back to our regularly scheduled Futurama!:

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Trigger Happy Jim: how is anything in that screenshot a "bit of a nod" to Richard Pryor?  I don't see the connection....

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Xanfor: you go right on being "annoying!"  That's the type we likes around here....  smile

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And lastly, returning to my dear SpaceCase...

 
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
Fry didn't "eh-hem" with her....Leela may have thought Fry and Petunia "eh-hemm'ed," but I'll be hanged if I know when, where, or why.
[*Shudder*]
Neither do I want to... 

No argument there.  Personally, I think just the memory of seeing Fry having "a date" with Petunia so traumatized Leela that her (Leela's) brain threw her (Petunia) into the ex-lovers' lineup as a subconscious self-torture of the "how could this experience possibly get WORSE?" variety. And of the "you let him go out with THAT rather than go out him yourself?!  What's wrong with you?!" variety.

 
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Though it makes a good gag joke.
Sorry, poor choice of words there...

I just scared my dog laughing....


dawoodz
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« Reply #26 on: 09-04-2006 14:49 »
« Last Edit on: 09-04-2006 14:49 »

Shiny, your to the point, I like that. As far as Petunia goes I think the writers just wanted to bulk that bench out a bit, if you have only three people and a radiator (who was only given a mild reference) that bench is lookin' pretty bare. (Setting aside that the bench is a pigment of Leela's imagination) --- although it has to be noted that Leela shouldn't have known about the "21st Century chick" as Ralph so elegantly put it --- possibley a goof, but not one which I (or anyone else) should care about.....

thank-you and goodnight........
Shiny

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« Reply #27 on: 09-04-2006 15:59 »

 
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Originally posted by dawoodz:
Shiny, your to the point, I like that. As far as Petunia goes I think the writers just wanted to bulk that bench out a bit, if you have only three people and a radiator (who was only given a mild reference) that bench is lookin' pretty bare.

Plus, the radiator and Petunia are the funniest of the females Fry's been, er, romantically linked with.  (And personally I think he and the radiator woman just did some heavy petting  wink )

 
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...although it has to be noted that Leela shouldn't have known about the "21st Century chick" as Ralph so elegantly put it --- possibley a goof, but not one which I (or anyone else) should care about....

Why wouldn't Leela know about "Century 21" Gal? <*snicker*>  Leela was at the Hip Joint, she saw Fry leave with her, and no doubt Fry enthusiastically told everyone at the office about his success the next morning.  roll eyes
dawoodz
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« Reply #28 on: 09-04-2006 16:03 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
 Why wouldn't Leela know about "Century 21" Gal? <*snicker*>  Leela was at the Hip Joint, she saw Fry leave with her, and no doubt Fry enthusiastically told everyone at the office about his success the next morning.   roll eyes

Sorry didn't remember that, and yeah I suppose he would have  laff
Xanfor

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« Reply #29 on: 09-05-2006 07:54 »

Lookie at me! I'm annoying! And blahdee blahdee blah! And Shiny is the greatest! Yippee doody doo! La la la la la la la la la la la...

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