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CrazyDoc

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« on: 10-10-2005 20:45 »

Have we ever had a clear indication as to Fry's heritage? Most people would think Irish, judging by the red hair (although red hair is actually more a Scottish) and the five-leaf clover.

We know from Fry's dad that the Fry family has been in America since colonial times, which would suggest that Fry's a mix of different things...any ideas?
cujoe169
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« Reply #1 on: 10-10-2005 22:26 »

wasp...
Kryten

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« Reply #2 on: 10-10-2005 22:50 »

He's Irish as hell.
Fry1077

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« Reply #3 on: 10-10-2005 23:44 »

In one episode doesn't it say he's Irish?
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« Reply #4 on: 10-11-2005 06:57 »
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I will have to research that. *sits in front of computer for 2 hours* I will start by typing Fry in Google *nothing comes up relevant* God dammit *smashes computer*

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CrazyDoc

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« Reply #5 on: 10-11-2005 09:18 »

I did do a search on 'Fry' once...and got a total of four countries of origin: England, Ireland, Cornwall, and strangly, Switzerland. Too confusing.
Gocad

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« Reply #6 on: 10-11-2005 10:38 »

 
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Originally posted by cujoe169:
wasp...

Damn, I'm getting old.

I had to read this twice to get it.  hmpf

But I'm quite certain that the 'p' was lost long ago in Fry's family.  tongue
Nixorbo

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« Reply #7 on: 10-11-2005 13:55 »

Five-leaf clover, huh?  Somebody hasn't watched Luck of the Fryrish in a while.
THM

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« Reply #8 on: 10-11-2005 14:39 »

I'd say Irish-American, definitely. Though I'd be the first to admit that's based a lot on hair colour, and capacity for drink!  smile

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mint

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« Reply #9 on: 10-11-2005 15:52 »

 
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Originally posted by CrazyDoc:
I did do a search on 'Fry' once...and got a total of four countries of origin: England, Ireland, Cornwall, and strangly, Switzerland. Too confusing.

Link?
Dan1248

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« Reply #10 on: 10-11-2005 16:26 »
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Genetics don't make family members all the same. Two black people may have a white child if there is white blood from an ancestor.

People's families could have a huge series of people with black hair, but then one day, a blond could be born. There can be a change at any time.

I don't think Fry is Irish, but may have irish ancestors. And if Fry was Irish, I don't think it was intentional.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #11 on: 10-11-2005 16:57 »

1) Red hair
2) Brooklynite
3) Heavy Beer-drinker
4) Bagpipes at his funeral, while not exclusive to the Irish, are extremely popular with them as a group.
5) They're always after his lucky charms (Luck of the Fryrish)

All signs point to Irish or Scottish ancestry, and I favor Irish primarily because of points 2 and 5.
Teral

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« Reply #12 on: 10-11-2005 17:53 »
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Originally posted by Dan1248:
Genetics don't make family members all the same.

Don't see where genetics is brought up in this thread, but okay...

 
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Two black people may have a white child if there is white blood from an ancestor.

Blood, schmood. It's genes who carry traits.

Realistically possible? Not in your lifetime. Long story short: skin color is not a recessive/dominating thing, but rather the result of 6 different alleles. Each allele  code for either skin pigmentation or no pigmentation. A person with AABBCC would be very darkskinned (black), while a person with aabbcc would be very pale. In between you have all the other variations of AaBBcC, AAbbCC, AabbCc, etc giving varying degrees of color. None of the alleles are dominant, so if 2 black people (AABBCC) got a child, that child would be black too (AABBCC).
Teral

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« Reply #13 on: 10-11-2005 17:56 »
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Sorry for the double-post, but this thread simply refuses to accept it all in one post. I think it hates me .... it's mutual....

 
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I don't think Fry is Irish, but may have irish ancestors. And if Fry was Irish, I don't think it was intentional.

How could it be unintentional?

"Sorry for making you Irish son. Your mother and I didn't plan it that way, but us both being Irish our hands were tied."
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« Reply #14 on: 10-11-2005 17:57 »
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Dan, you realize this random blond being born is genetics?  Its the recessive gene.  Thats does happen in rare cases.  The fact that Fry, and his mother, and "grandfather" all have the red hair indicate that is is not[/b] a recessive gene.

Whats that mean?  He's irish, or some other background that dominently has red hair

Edit: too slow for Teral.  Anyways, Hair color and eye color is recessive/dominant
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #15 on: 10-11-2005 19:36 »

Fry's family have quite clearly been American for quite some time... Yancy "Minuteman" Fry blasted commies in the American revolution, after all. So on his father's side at least, Fry is more likely to have WASP ancestry.

Fry's mother, on the other hand, is a passionate sportsfan. She listens to the game on the radio whilst Fry is being squeezed from between her thighs, and she plays golf in the sitting room. This suggests that her ancestry is most probably European, of some flavour or other. Now as to Irish, there's something not quite right with that. The golf, the red hair, they're Scottish icons, and the fact that she wears a skirt - that's the kicker. Scotsmen wear skirts all the time. They say it's "national dress" and that it's a "kilt", but really, the fact is that it's cheaper to become a drunken transvestite in Scotland than to take up a more constructive hobby, such as Water Polo.

Fry's familial ties to other countries are going to be pretty damn weak either way. He's an American, through and through. He's lazy, stupid, and just plain suggestible. How could he be anything else but a child of the U.S.A?
I realise that not all Americans are like this. However, over here in England, Homer Simpson is pretty much the iconic arch-figure of modern American Man

Of course, since Fry lives in the future, it matters not which country he "comes from". He is, when you get down to it, just another Earthican.
CrazyDoc

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« Reply #16 on: 10-11-2005 20:25 »

Nixorbo: Sorry, my bad, it's seven...

Nerd-o-rama: Bagpipes are Scottish, though I think Irish variants may exist. And isn't Brooklyn like the most ethnically diverse place on the planet? I had to read up on NYC for a fanfic I did once and I learned that pretty much every Brooklyn neighborhood has its own ethnic flavour.

mint: a few different sources...can't remember which ones, it was a while ago.
Dan1248

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« Reply #17 on: 10-12-2005 03:17 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
How could it be unintentional?

"Sorry for making you Irish son. Your mother and I didn't plan it that way, but us both being Irish our hands were tied."

I meant Matt Groening probably didn't make him Irish.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #18 on: 10-12-2005 18:53 »

I think he's Scottish-Irish.  That's just my take on it. 
David A

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« Reply #19 on: 10-13-2005 00:13 »

 
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Originally posted by totalnerduk:
Fry's familial ties to other countries are going to be pretty damn weak either way. He's an American, through and through. He's lazy, stupid, and just plain suggestible. How could he be anything else but a child of the U.S.A?
I realise that not all Americans are like this. However, over here in England, Homer Simpson is pretty much the iconic arch-figure of modern American Man

Yes, and thank you for sending your best and brightest over here to get the party started.   roll eyes
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #20 on: 10-13-2005 19:33 »

 
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 Yes, and thank you for sending your best and brightest over here to get the party started.    roll eyes

We sent Puritan Extremists. If they were our best and brightest, then England was in a sorry state.

And I wouldn't call America a party. America is more like a massive sexually transmitted disease. It keeps itself alive by fucking everybody else.

David A

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« Reply #21 on: 10-13-2005 20:30 »

 
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Originally posted by totalnerduk:
 We sent Puritan Extremists. If they were our best and brightest, then England was in a sorry state.

Oh, I'm sorry, do they not have sarcasm in England?

My point was that if the English think that Americans are lazy, stupid, and suggestible, they have no one but themselves to blame.  You sent your rejects over here, and they were running things when the rest of us got here.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #22 on: 10-13-2005 20:45 »

Oh shove a hamburger in it.
cujoe169
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« Reply #23 on: 10-13-2005 20:58 »

haha, there's no animosity between the govt's for over 200 years, but its still there with the people...
M0le

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« Reply #24 on: 10-14-2005 02:27 »

 
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Yes, and thank you for sending your best and brightest over here to get the party started.  roll eyes
Obviously not, or it'd be called Australia.  tongue
hotrod zoidberg

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« Reply #25 on: 10-14-2005 08:21 »

australia's where jolly old england sent all there good for nothinh criminals

hooray we suck
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #26 on: 10-14-2005 17:21 »

I just realized Canada has the wussiest upbringing of all the English colony nations.
aubrey_rawks

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« Reply #27 on: 10-14-2005 23:19 »
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Gettin back to the original topic, in one episode Fry says he didn't go to public school bcause his parents thought it was a waste of taxpayer's money.  So what's the deal?  Did he go to Catholic school or something?
M0le

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« Reply #28 on: 10-14-2005 23:36 »

They were saying it'd be a waste because he'd be too stupid to learn anything. Nothing to do with Catholic conspiracies.
boiler

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« Reply #29 on: 10-15-2005 01:54 »

according to lastnames.com, the name fry is cornish.
THM

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« Reply #30 on: 10-17-2005 19:30 »
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Neat.   smile
FutureDramaQeen

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« Reply #31 on: 10-23-2005 13:17 »
« Last Edit on: 10-27-2005 00:00 »

Stupid post.

Ignore it.
Dan1248

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« Reply #32 on: 10-30-2005 14:17 »

 
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Fry, an Irish-American was born in 1974
I got it from a "reliable" source...
Hey, even if it is from Wikipedia, lets just belive it anyways...
CrazyDoc

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« Reply #33 on: 10-31-2005 19:39 »

^ I was gonna mention that. In the same vein, tv.com describes John DiMaggio as "an Italian-American voice actor". Is no-one simply American anymore?  confused
cujoe169
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« Reply #34 on: 10-31-2005 21:01 »

well... no if you want to get into semantics
Bender-Mon

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« Reply #35 on: 11-04-2005 18:08 »

i think that since the fry family has been in america for so long they are pretty much american by now but they could ahve been irish before.
CrazyDoc

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« Reply #36 on: 11-05-2005 18:52 »
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I just remembered...doesn't the name 'Yancy' mean 'Englishman'? That would be a strange name for an Irish family to use, the name of Ireland's chief enemy so to speak...
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #37 on: 07-04-2006 19:16 »

Here's something to consider.  Since Fry has red hair, wouldn't he have freckles and moles?
Pedro La Loco

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« Reply #38 on: 07-05-2006 00:00 »
« Last Edit on: 07-05-2006 00:00 »

    puke God, that's Disgusting,Freckles and moles I mean,Anyway fry's what you call a daywalker, with just the red Hair
Great Job bumping a thread from a year ago! Horray for bumping
Officer 1BDI

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« Reply #39 on: 07-05-2006 12:38 »
« Last Edit on: 07-05-2006 12:38 »

At least it was a relevant post. 

Freckles/moles aren't genetically linked with red hair, and vice-versa, at least as far as I know.  Commonly seen together, yes, but not necesarrily linked.  If both traits were common in Fry's bloodline at some point, it's entirely possible that the freckles trait was bred out of the line over the generations. 

Or, the trait's lying dormant in his genome, waiting to express itself in whatever adorable offspring he might produce. :P
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