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KurtPikachu2001

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« on: 06-06-2005 20:02 »

We all know Fry can be a wimp sometimes.  And there's been times where he was the hero.  The question is, despite all of his naivete and whatnot, is Fry be considered a 90 pound weakling? 

Plus, I ask this because it seems whenever Fry tries to get Leela to like him romantically, Leela doesn't like him because he's not smart enough (i.e. Adali) or not strong enough (i.e. Chazz)
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #1 on: 06-06-2005 20:29 »

He can be very cowardly at times and to be fair he hasn't really gotten much of a chance to get into a semi-fair fight.
David A

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« Reply #2 on: 06-06-2005 20:31 »

I'm confused, are you asking if Fry is physically weak, or weak willed?

 
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Leela doesn't like him because he's not smart enough (i.e. Adali) or not strong enough (i.e. Chazz)

Leela went out with Adalai because he's a doctor (and rich), and she went out with Chaz because he's the mayor's aide (an important job).  So by that logic, she doesn't like Fry because he doesn't have enough money or status.  Of course, she dumped both of those guys when they turned out to be jerks, so I don't think that's really what she's looking for.
IamBender

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« Reply #3 on: 06-06-2005 21:15 »

Oh hes definitely weak. look at the scene in War is the H-word when he was hiding in his own hole.
Venus

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« Reply #4 on: 06-06-2005 23:16 »

He's a wimp, but he seems to be able to hold his own in a fight. He at least got a few hits in when he was fighting StarTrek characters.
TheGlob

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« Reply #5 on: 06-06-2005 23:25 »

ya in where no fan has gone before he did get off a few hits
IamBender

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« Reply #6 on: 06-06-2005 23:42 »

Good contribution Glob.    roll eyes
TheGlob

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« Reply #7 on: 06-06-2005 23:50 »

lol y thank you Iambender
IamBender

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« Reply #8 on: 06-06-2005 23:51 »

you're very welcome Glob.  smile
El Zilcho

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« Reply #9 on: 06-07-2005 01:27 »

I'm glad you're both so well mannered. It's a trait you don't see much anymore.

Now stop spamming, or heads will roll.
IamBender

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« Reply #10 on: 06-07-2005 01:44 »

Ok.
Meerkat

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« Reply #11 on: 06-07-2005 02:43 »

Fry isn't weak. He's just lazy and selfish (most of the time)...
IamBender

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« Reply #12 on: 06-07-2005 23:38 »

You're right meerkat. I just remembered the scene in "Why must I be a crustacean in love" where he beat Zoidy. When he puts his mind to something, he's courageous.
Meerkat

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« Reply #13 on: 06-08-2005 02:19 »

Exactly. And he'd do almost anything for Leela. Good man.
Zogonif

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« Reply #14 on: 06-08-2005 03:31 »
« Last Edit on: 06-09-2005 00:00 »

 
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Originally posted by IamBender:
Oh hes definitely weak. look at the scene in War is the H-word when he was hiding in his own hole.

He did'nt do that because he was weak, He did that because he used his brains to not get killed by the Balls
Nixorbo

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« Reply #15 on: 06-08-2005 23:23 »

He's too chubby to be a 90-pound weakling.
Shiny

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« Reply #16 on: 06-08-2005 23:31 »
« Last Edit on: 06-08-2005 23:31 »

   laff Nixorbo...


Fry is physically not in the best shape, but even men who don't exercise have more strength than you'd think.  When his Fryrish is up (sorry  tongue ) he can give it a good shot...

Whether he is a coward or not is a different question.  Clearly, when he wants to help someone he cares about, he has what it takes.  But he isn't motivated to courage by mere need to save face or look tough - he has to either want to protect someone, or get angry enough, to fight.
CombienReaction

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« Reply #17 on: 06-09-2005 11:47 »
« Last Edit on: 06-09-2005 11:47 »

Prepare yourselves for my horribly, over-the-top, uninteresting opinion, folks:

Physically, Fry is weak; but he'll attempt to make it appear otherwise. Take for example, "Why Must I Be A Crustacean In Love?", when he had the "Claw Plaque" battle to the death with Zoidberg he didn't stand a chance (at first!), but he didn't give up attempting to win. Later, Fry has the chance to kill Zoidberg; but gives in because they're friends. A few minutes later, Zoidberg cuts his arm off. Fry decides not to back down and call himself a "loser" and just let Zoidberg get away with cutting off his arm, so Fry clubs him with said arm (at he was about to lose before Leela broke it up). Both times, Fry used a weapon (the giant Nut-Cracker and his arm), as he knows himself that he is weak and couldn't defend himself against Zoidberg with his bare hands.

Fry is a "tough" character, however, when he endures pain he doesn't resort to crying or pretending to be dead, he replies with good ol' fashioned senseless violence, attempting to stop himself from going down (even if he knows all hope of that is lost). The "Star Trek" thing shows this too, even after he was brought to the floor by Nichols, he doesn't give up fighting back. And later when he fights one of the cast members (can't remember who, I think it was Takei), the both punch eachother in the face. After Takei (?) hits Fry, Fry doesn't bother responding with another similar hit to the face; but instead decides to tackle Takei to the ground.

Hell, even when he thought his brother had stole his name/dreams/clover (which you could consider an attack), Fry resorted with violence. He runs up and punches the giant statue of "Philip J. Fry", and replies by saying that his brother also "has broke his fist". Fry probably knows that punching the statue will accomplish nothing at all (although, it's hard to tell with someone like Fry), but he still does it anyway; to make him not appear to be such a push-over.

As for his cowardly shenigans in "War Is The H-Word", he hid from the balls because he was out-numbered; not because he was afraid to fight them (he had a chance to back away before one of them attacked him or something). This even shows later when Fry is dropped from the helicopter, he is attacked by multiple balls (with no weapons to fend himself), but since they actually attacked him he attempts to fight back (and later rides to freedom on one of them).

Either that or Fry has ADD...
GreyThinkyWhale

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« Reply #18 on: 06-10-2005 16:59 »

Reading is hard  frown .

On topic: I think Fry is about average strength, but cowardly at times.
Btb

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« Reply #19 on: 06-13-2005 22:23 »

Seems like he can mosh pretty good. 
doomtousall

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« Reply #20 on: 06-15-2005 21:45 »
« Last Edit on: 06-15-2005 21:45 »

Really depends on the situation. If he wants he can kick ass, but it seems he prefers to choose a gentle lifestyle. Maybe because he feels he doesn't need to be a macho-man to be respected.


I'm way too much like a psychiatrist.
IamBender

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« Reply #21 on: 06-15-2005 21:53 »

 
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Originally posted by doomtousall:
Maybe because he feels he doesn't need to be a macho-man to be respected.


Or maybe because he doesnt care about respect? I remember when the crew was confronting him about dating a robot. Hermes is like: "Have u lost all self-respect?"

Fry's like: "All-what?"

He's pretty much a self-centred hedonistic person.
fryfan001

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« Reply #22 on: 06-16-2005 21:01 »

Fry has more mental strength than anything. I mean come on, he got frozen 1000 years into the future and he still sees life through rose colered sunglasses! Physically though no. If he wanted to be in shape I'm sure he could. That's just the kind of guy he is. Ambitious when he wants to be.
Dr Zoidberg

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« Reply #23 on: 06-18-2005 19:42 »

Yeah I think he can be brave when he wants to be. Most of the time he isn't though. He is so dumb, he keeps getting himself into situations where he faces fear. That's why I said I dont like him, but he can be brave sometimes.
Jonny Wobbs

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« Reply #24 on: 06-19-2005 11:37 »

He is brave in his own way, but mainly a weakling. He sometimes tries to brave to impress Leela!
cosmic J

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« Reply #25 on: 06-19-2005 11:38 »

Fry is a lover not a fighter.
well hes not a fighter anyway.
but he calls no man mister!
Jonny Wobbs

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« Reply #26 on: 06-19-2005 11:55 »

Right on! Anyway he is strong in Parasites Lost, but thats a one of. The parasites were helping him....
IDIOTSVILLE

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« Reply #27 on: 06-20-2005 17:10 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
    laff Nixorbo...


Fry is physically not in the best shape, but even men who don't exercise have more strength than you'd think.  When his Fryrish is up (sorry   tongue ) he can give it a good shot...

Whether he is a coward or not is a different question.  Clearly, when he wants to help someone he cares about, he has what it takes.  But he isn't motivated to courage by mere need to save face or look tough - he has to either want to protect someone, or get angry enough, to fight.

91 pound then?
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #28 on: 12-23-2005 14:39 »

I'll admit Fry is a little chunky in the cartoon.  In the comic books lately, Fry is looking a little too skinny.  So, that's why I asked you all if he was a '90-pound weakling'.
Dave B

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« Reply #29 on: 12-23-2005 15:29 »

Well he is not exactly macho lol but he is a normal guy so I would say no he's quite normal, I think
tyraniak

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« Reply #30 on: 12-27-2005 14:58 »

In both Futurama and the Simpsons, it's common to have the characters both kick ass and have their asses kicked
J. Samuel Lyons

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« Reply #31 on: 12-27-2005 17:49 »

But what about in Insane In The MainFrame when he goes up against Roberto? Does that have anything to do with anything?
tyraniak

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« Reply #32 on: 12-28-2005 21:57 »

He was physically cut but he didn't feel pain until he saw blood, because he thought he was an indestructable robot.  It's kind of like when Wile E. Coyote doesn't fall off the cliff until he looks down
FryBound

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« Reply #33 on: 12-28-2005 22:41 »

He is week and he does coward alot and cry but when it comes to leela like in the sting he is proven to be quite couragoes!
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