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Old Skool Prop

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« on: 03-14-2005 07:34 »

Who would you want as the next President of earth after nixons head?

I think Mom would be a good President
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #1 on: 03-14-2005 11:35 »

I wish the show had gone on one more season so we could have seen another election...*sigh*.

Anyway, I'd guess that Nixon's head tries to make a comeback.
"They said Nixon was finished in '74.  They said Nixon was dead in '94, but I showed them!"
Or something like that.

Another good idea would be to see Zapp run.  He'd probably take the 2008 election by a landslide, if he existed today.

I did a not-really-serious thread on this once, and I believe Leela won, actually. Of course, I nominated all the major characters from the show, and there were no funding issues, so everyone had an equal chance.
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« Reply #2 on: 03-14-2005 11:50 »

I think if the show had lasted longer, they would have had a storyline where Zapp became President.

Now THAT would have been entertaining.
Old Skool Prop

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« Reply #3 on: 03-14-2005 11:53 »

Kif could run against Zapp! Now that would be cool!
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #4 on: 03-14-2005 11:56 »

 
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Originally posted by Old Skool Prop:
Kif could run against Zapp! Now that would be cool!

 laff

I could picture Kif having a well-put-together campaign, amazing ideas to fix the economy, and plans to make society a perfect place. And then Zapp wins because he promises to legalize prostitution or something.

*cue Kif's sigh*
Andy1234

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« Reply #5 on: 03-14-2005 12:36 »

Nixons head would be prsident, because if you watch a deleted scene from 300 big boys, when fry puts his tax rebate in the coffee machine for the first time it says:
Nixon on the note:By spending this tax rebate you automatically vote for me in the next election
Fry:fairs fair

it goes something like that.
Old Skool Prop

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« Reply #6 on: 03-14-2005 12:46 »

Well for the sake of this topic lets ignore that deleted scene!
Andy1234

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« Reply #7 on: 03-14-2005 12:52 »

alright then, what would be more funny is if fry became president of earth and he was running against bender.
Old Skool Prop

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« Reply #8 on: 03-14-2005 15:48 »

Can you be president if you did the nasty in the pasty? What does it say in the constitution?
Jicannon

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« Reply #9 on: 03-14-2005 15:56 »

You can't be president if you're a felon, we know that.
Andy1234

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« Reply #10 on: 03-14-2005 16:12 »

oh, i didn't know that, instead of bender running against fry how about leela running against amy?
Jicannon

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« Reply #11 on: 03-14-2005 16:17 »

Ah, I didn't even see your comment about Bender running Andy. I was answering Old Skool Prop  tongue
But yeah, in "A Head in the Polls" Bender says he can't vote because he's a felon, so he definately can't be president if he can't vote.
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #12 on: 03-14-2005 20:04 »

I think when you did that President thing Nerd-o-rama, Leela won for President, and because she won, Amy was Vice-President. (Or something like that.)
Old Skool Prop

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« Reply #13 on: 03-15-2005 02:58 »

I forgot bender couldnt vote!
Slackit02

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« Reply #14 on: 03-16-2005 11:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Andy1234:
oh, i didn't know that, instead of bender running against fry how about leela running against amy?

As far as in current times - you have to be a citizen of the United states to be president.  Now things could change, but they might require you to be a citizen of Earth to run for president.  That means Leela could run - but not sure about Amy - she was born and lives on mars, so is most likely a citizen there.

But then again, things could always change
Andy1234

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« Reply #15 on: 03-16-2005 12:37 »

they might have changed, but they could have changed to "you have to be human to run"

just a thought...
Slackit02

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« Reply #16 on: 03-16-2005 16:26 »
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Well I doubt they would allow someone whos a citizen elsewhere to run Earth.  So if Amy is a citizen of Mars, she couldnt, but Kif for example, if he was a citizen of Earth he could.

Even more detailed then that tho, You have to be born in the US to be president, so maybe you'd have to be born on Earth to be president.  So if Kif became a Earth citizen later in life, he could run for an office (ie Arnold S in Cali - no way Im able to spell that name) but he couldnt run for president.

Even more thought - who says the basis is US presidency.  There are other countries with a president (France, Russia) So it could come from any of those places, which all have a main basis, but differance that may be seen in the future...
Teral

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« Reply #17 on: 03-16-2005 17:04 »

 
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
I think if the show had lasted longer, they would have had a storyline where Zapp became President.

Now THAT would have been entertaining.

Eh, a bit too close to reality to be really good satire.  wink

 
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By Slackit02:
ie Arnold S in Cali - no way Im able to spell that name)
California  tongue or Schwarzengger

Fxjkhr, the 60th president, was an alien. I think they only require you to have an Earthican citizenship to be electable. Many nations today have citizenship as the only requirement, not being born in the country. When they drew Old Freeby, most nations probably opted for the "Citizenship Only" rule.

As for Mars, did they ever mention whether the planet was an independent state or an Earthican colony?

Then there's the hole DOOP thing, are all DOOPians electable on the member world they reside on, or does DOOP citizenship mean nothing in this context. The EU have a chapter in it's charter that make all its citizens electable at local elections (county, etc) in the area the reside in, regardless of origin.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #18 on: 03-16-2005 21:57 »

I don't think they ever metioned if Mars was an independent state or an Earthican colony, though it's probally a mix of both. Somebody probally knows which.

Nice spelling of Arnold Schwarzengger. I'd never know.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #19 on: 03-16-2005 23:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral
Fxjkhr, the 60th president, was an alien. I think they only require you to have an Earthican citizenship to be electable. Many nations today have citizenship as the only requirement, not being born in the country. When they drew Old Freeby, most nations probably opted for the "Citizenship Only" rule.
I was waiting for someone to bring that up.  I was going to point it out as evidence for the "aliens can be elected" theory, but then I remembered that something similar had happened in American history.  After Franklin Roosevelt was elected to four consecutive terms, a Constitutional Amendment was passed to enforce the traditional two-term limit.  If they did this after one of the top three most popular Presidents in American history (and the only one of those three that wasn't assassinated, ironically) they probably would have done something similar after a president depicted as sitting enthroned on a pile of human skulls.

Anyway, since the Earthican Constitution seems to follow the American one, there is probably no rule other than tradition that says "humans only," but rather a requirement that the President be a native-born Earthican and a citizen of Earth for X amount of years.  In this case, Leela would qualify*, and Amy might or might not, depending on whether Mars is a colony, and whether the colonial residents are considered naturalized Earthican citizens.

*Possibly.  Her "official" planet of origin is indeterminate, since the Orphanarium had no way of knowing whether she was born on Earth to "alien" parents or on their homeworld.  Also, someone would probably find out she was a mutant, or she would have to admit it, and in the future that's roughly equivalent to a black man running for president in the 50's in America.
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #20 on: 03-17-2005 02:33 »

^lol. That was harsh, yet true.
Andy1234

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« Reply #21 on: 03-17-2005 06:14 »

nerd-o-rama, leela might not qualify if it has to be earthican born, as only the PE crew know she is a mutant whereas the government thinks she is an alien from an unknown planet, but, because she grew up in an orthanarium, she might just qualify.
Futurama Crazy

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« Reply #22 on: 03-17-2005 13:35 »

I think farnsworth would make a good  president!
Teral

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« Reply #23 on: 03-17-2005 14:03 »

 
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Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama:
I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

You set me up? I trusted you man! How could you?  cry

 
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I was going to point it out as evidence for the "aliens can be elected" theory, but then I remembered that something similar had happened in American history.  After Franklin Roosevelt was elected to four consecutive terms, a Constitutional Amendment was passed to enforce the traditional two-term limit.  If they did this after one of the top three most popular Presidents in American history (and the only one of those three that wasn't assassinated, ironically) they probably would have done something similar after a president depicted as sitting enthroned on a pile of human skulls.

Yeah, i considered that for a brief moment, but decided they wouldn't do a "Roosevelt" after Fxjkhr. 2 explanations, the first one is boring, the second one is in Groening's spirit.

1) In a perfect society politicians would be elected based on their skills, integrity and honesty alone, their birthplace would be of no consequence. History is full of examples of great empires how fell because their rulers were appointed based on family connections and traditions alone (aka nepotism), meaning more often than not idiots  were put in charge because they were the son of the king, with catastrophic results. Anyway, maybe the citizens of Earth decided "hey we're not that easily scared. We know Fxjkhr was a fluke, but hey one bad apple wont spoil the crop". Or something to that extent.

2) How do we even know Fxjkhr was a bad president? He was the 60th president. Okay, let's say the foundation of a unified Earth is quite a bit into the future, say 400 years. Furthermore the term of Earthican presidents seem to be 4 years as well, meaning Fxjkhr ruled sometime during 2700's (there's bound to be some presidents running double-terms). Okay, that means his statue have been around for several centuries, and have been kept in pristine condition. If he was such a bloodthirsty monster, murdering untold millions of Earthicans don't you think they would destroyed the statue long ago. Or some rebels would've vandalized it? Actually the condition of the statue indicates a grateful people, honoring a great president. For all we know he could've been "Fxhjkr, the Consensus Builder", rebuilding the economy, easing social tensions, building roads, hospitals, libraries.... If you ask me Fxhjkr just had a lousy spin doctor ...

 
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Anyway, since the Earthican Constitution seems to follow the American one, there is probably no rule other than tradition that says "humans only," but rather a requirement that the President be a native-born Earthican and a citizen of Earth for X amount of years.  In this case, Leela would qualify*, and Amy might or might not, depending on whether Mars is a colony, and whether the colonial residents are considered naturalized Earthican citizens.

*Possibly.  Her "official" planet of origin is indeterminate, since the Orphanarium had no way of knowing whether she was born on Earth to "alien" parents or on their homeworld.  Also, someone would probably find out she was a mutant, or she would have to admit it, and in the future that's roughly equivalent to a black man running for president in the 50's in America.

Still think only Earthican citizenship applies, since both Joahn Jackson and Jack Johnson were clones and according to Farnsworth clones technically aren't born.

Don't confuse not caring with not knowing!
Fry123475

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« Reply #24 on: 03-20-2005 12:05 »

 
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I think farnsworth would make a good  president!
Hehe Farnsworth making a speech!
Farnsworth:*Snoring*.............*Wakes up*Wahhh?
killbot4000

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« Reply #25 on: 03-20-2005 13:00 »

Fry would be a good President hes not always doing the right thing but over all i think he would be a good President.
cujoe169
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« Reply #26 on: 03-20-2005 14:54 »

hey... what about bender... he'd represent the oppressed and underappreciated
killbot4000

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« Reply #27 on: 03-20-2005 14:59 »

bender wouldn't be good because if u whatch A Pharaoh To Remember he doesn't decide what to do after its done he wants to change it.
Andy1234

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« Reply #28 on: 03-21-2005 11:26 »

anyway cujoe, we discussed this earlier in this topic, bender can't be president as he is a felon. look at a head in the polls, bender says he can't vote because he is a felon.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #29 on: 03-21-2005 14:25 »
« Last Edit on: 03-21-2005 14:25 »

 
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Still think only Earthican citizenship applies, since both Joahn Jackson and Jack Johnson were clones and according to Farnsworth clones technically aren't born.
Technically, neither are robots, and there was a robot president in the past (though we aren't told whether he was before or after Fxjkhr's term, when I assume the "native" amendment was passed.)  I think it's more likely that it says native-created Earthican or something of that nature to account for species and subspecies that aren't created sexually, like robots and clones.

David A, for once you have a point when you contradict me.  This post keeps the assumption from earlier in the thread that Fxjkhr was not a native Earthican (I may have misinterpreted Teral's statement about him being an alien; in Futurama, memebers of species indigenous to other planets born on Earth are still called aliens, I believe.) If he's a native, then the whole fun little backstory of reigns of terror and Constitutional Amendments we're coming up wiht is kind of moot.
David A

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« Reply #30 on: 03-21-2005 15:32 »

Why are you assuming that Fxjkhr wasn't born on Earth?
cujoe169
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« Reply #31 on: 03-21-2005 17:05 »

awww... bender would be pretty awesome... then i'll second whoever said farnsworth!
Andy1234

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« Reply #32 on: 03-22-2005 14:24 »

bender is a felon! it is mentioned so man times!he can't vote, never mind running for president!
cujoe169
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« Reply #33 on: 03-22-2005 17:04 »

yes... i realize that, and you said that... which is why, i said i'd second whoever said farnsworth... proposed as an alternative, calm down andy1234
Procyon

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« Reply #34 on: 03-23-2005 22:03 »
« Last Edit on: 03-23-2005 22:03 »

I'm surprised nobody has brought up the 3004 Presidental election giclee mentioned in CGEF awhile back.



I'd vote for Fry. Of course it'd really be Leela running the show back stage.
evan

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« Reply #35 on: 03-23-2005 22:28 »

I wouldn't be surprised if Nixon called off all further elections. As a head in a jar, he can live as long as he desires, so it's possible he forces himself into the post for a long time.
cujoe169
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« Reply #36 on: 03-25-2005 16:19 »

is it me or is that zoidberg looking all raggedy in the upper left corner of the crowd... and calculon's girlfrind monique behind bender?!??!
Teral

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« Reply #37 on: 03-25-2005 19:06 »

 
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is it me or is that zoidberg looking all raggedy in the upper left corner of the crowd...

It's Harold Zoid, not Zoidberg.
ecks

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« Reply #38 on: 03-26-2005 00:23 »

I think story line wise Zapp would be the best president or... maybe Flexo... or Cubert... Yeah if Cubert was president then the planet express wouldnt be planet express it would be "Air Force One ... Express"
Andy1234

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« Reply #39 on: 03-30-2005 14:27 »

nah, i think it'd be "awesom express" again
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