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LoserUser

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« on: 01-31-2005 02:00 »

This is just an idea, tell me what you think.

Four funny features of Homer Simpson are split among the main four males of Futurama.

Fry: dumb like Homer
Bender: morally bad like Homer
Professor: angry like Homer
Zoidberg: eats and has hygiene like Homer

These four characters are more complex than that, but the above four characteristics are the basis for much of their humor.  Do you think the creators of Futurama did this on purpose? Or am I way out to lunch?

Zoidberg: I'm going to go eat those french fries Amy threw in the dumpster yesterday
Amy: Those were toenail clippings!'
Zoidberg (shrugs):A feast is a feast
Venus

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« Reply #1 on: 01-31-2005 02:03 »

I would like to think that simpsons is not the basis for anything futurama related.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #2 on: 01-31-2005 02:04 »
« Last Edit on: 01-31-2005 02:04 »

It wasn't really intentional I don't think, although Groening did make comments about Bender being "our Homer Simpson", in that he can do many horrible things and have the audience accept and even enjoy it.

But otherwise, those are all fairly standard gag buttons, and common in comedy (including Futurama) for that reason.  Homer's popularity comes largely from him embodying all of them.  And its only natural that Groening would have a similar style of humor  in Futurama, hence those gag buttons being used again.  I don't think there was ever a calculated effort to make the characters like Homer.  Plus keep in mind that the Professor and Zoidberg both evolved; the former used to be much calmer (as reflected in his voice in the first few episodes) but gradually got crazier and meaner/angrier, while the latter started off as merely a bad doctor (shades of Dr. Nick if anything, though not intentional there either) and then started to become the poor, hungry, lonely, etc character we all know and love as time went on.
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #3 on: 01-31-2005 02:06 »

I think it's just a coincidence.

And off topic..... Is it just me, or have alot of new posters started posting? I have nothing against this, of course. The more people, the better.
The Pizzazz

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« Reply #4 on: 01-31-2005 03:44 »
« Last Edit on: 01-31-2005 03:44 »

Yes, a lot of people have been registering lately. I'm one of those newbies  tongue
David A

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« Reply #5 on: 01-31-2005 03:53 »

 
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Originally posted by LoserUser:
Bender: morally bad like Homer

No, I don't think so.

Homer may do a lot of morally questionable things, but I can't think of anything he's done that even comes close to the things that Bender does.

Anyway, this should probably be in the Human Resource Department.

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
I would like to think that simpsons is not the basis for anything futurama related.

I think it is, but only in a general way.  I don't think that any of the Futurama characters are directly based on Simpsons characters.

 
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Originally posted by Eyedol7513:
Is it just me, or have alot of new posters started posting?

Who are you calling new, August 2004?   tongue
DogDoo8

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« Reply #6 on: 01-31-2005 04:20 »

Speaking of NOOBs, it was my 1 year anniversary a couple of days ago, I'm 1 PEEL year old.  big grin

On topic, I think Matt would of wanted to stay away from the Simpsons when he did Futurama.
swidzi

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« Reply #7 on: 01-31-2005 06:33 »

Well... on one of the interviews Matt said (i can't remember where i've heard it) that he didn't want Futurama to be Simpsons in the future... Then again that was something that FOX expected...it had been said somewhere that that was one of the reasons Futurama got cancelled...
athena1999

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« Reply #8 on: 01-31-2005 20:24 »

Yo soy un "el n00b-o!"  ...sort of.  Well, I do agree that Homer and Bender are similar, but that doesn't mean they're the same.  Homer has that innocent stupidity about him that sometimes makes him do immoral things, but Bender's more rude and has no restraints on morals.  And characters by Matt Groening are bound to be similar to each other, aren't they?
MrMoose

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« Reply #9 on: 01-31-2005 20:55 »

He's a big difference between the two.
Bender- "Kill all humans"
Homer- ....not so much
Fry´s Nightmare

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« Reply #10 on: 01-31-2005 20:58 »

Well... They both drink a lot...
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #11 on: 02-01-2005 11:27 »

I agree with Venus.  I don't think the Futurama characters are in any way associated nor are carbon copies of Simpsons characters.  Futurama and The Simpsons are two different shows that have two totally different concepts. 
Coilette

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« Reply #12 on: 02-03-2005 12:10 »

Because the simpsons has been such a huge sucess, when Matt made futurama people would automatically try to find similarities between the 2 shows.
Dr.Jerkbird

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« Reply #13 on: 02-03-2005 14:51 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
It wasn't really intentional I don't think, although Groening did make comments about Bender being "our Homer Simpson", in that he can do many horrible things and have the audience accept and even enjoy it.

But otherwise, those are all fairly standard gag buttons, and common in comedy (including Futurama) for that reason.  Homer's popularity comes largely from him embodying all of them.  And its only natural that Groening would have a similar style of humor  in Futurama, hence those gag buttons being used again.  I don't think there was ever a calculated effort to make the characters like Homer.  Plus keep in mind that the Professor and Zoidberg both evolved; the former used to be much calmer (as reflected in his voice in the first few episodes) but gradually got crazier and meaner/angrier, while the latter started off as merely a bad doctor (shades of Dr. Nick if anything, though not intentional there either) and then started to become the poor, hungry, lonely, etc character we all know and love as time went on.

You always have really long answers!  big grin

Anywho I think you're out to lunch to be honest!

Jicannon

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« Reply #14 on: 02-03-2005 18:47 »

 
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Originally posted by Eyedol7513:
I think it's just a coincidence.

And off topic..... Is it just me, or have alot of new posters started posting? I have nothing against this, of course. The more people, the better.

Yeah...you used to be one of those new posters that just started posting too. People join every day.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #15 on: 02-04-2005 02:37 »

 
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Originally posted by Dr.Jerkbird:
 You always have really long answers!   big grin

Eh, I'm a fast typer.

 
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Anywho I think you're out to lunch to be honest!

Explain.

RS 2thou

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« Reply #16 on: 02-05-2005 07:14 »

If Futurama was the Simpsons in the future I would not be a fan, I find the simpsons to repetative for my liking
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« Reply #17 on: 02-13-2005 15:40 »

more people = better... more stimulus for convos...  smile
Jaswahhihi

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« Reply #18 on: 02-13-2005 16:27 »
« Last Edit on: 02-13-2005 16:27 »

 
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Originally posted by LoserUser:


Fry: dumb like Homer
Bender: morally bad like Homer
Professor: angry like Homer
Zoidberg: eats and has hygiene like Homer



The essence of a good comedy show..... it brought them millions first time round mabey they are trying to use those again.
Bender-is-Great

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« Reply #19 on: 02-14-2005 00:12 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
Homer may do a lot of morally questionable things, but I can't think of anything he's done that even comes close to the things that Bender does.

I can agree with that, but Bender can also get away with alot more because he's a robot.  For example, say if both Homer and Bender were to do the same stupid, morally questionable thing, we'd kinda wonder how bad of a person Homer is.  Whereas with Bender, it's almost, "Eh, he's a robot.  Maybe a flaw in his programming or something".  Basically, if a person does somehting immoral, we tend to think of them as a bad person, (or start to dislike them) whereas with something not human, ie robot, it's almost forgivable. 

Well I may be completely off base but that's my 2 cents worth anyway so  tongue

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David A

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« Reply #20 on: 02-14-2005 11:00 »

Yeah, I think that's why Groening wanted to have a robot character on the show.  Bender can do horrible things that would make us hate him if he was human, but since he's a robot, he can get away with it.
Andy1234

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« Reply #21 on: 03-02-2005 16:28 »

another feature of homer like bender would be that bender drinks alot.
Old Skool Prop

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« Reply #22 on: 03-11-2005 02:11 »

Bender is more extreme! I would say homer doesnt know any morales, but bender doesnt have any thats the difference!
Andy1234

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« Reply #23 on: 03-11-2005 11:34 »
« Last Edit on: 03-11-2005 11:34 »

   
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Originally posted by Old Skool Prop:
Bender is more extreme! I would say homer doesnt know any morales, but bender doesnt have any thats the difference!


correct as in "I Second That Emotion"when bender flushes nibbler down the toilet and leela comes in all he says is

"can't you see i'm using the toilet"


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TheGingerKid

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« Reply #24 on: 03-11-2005 12:04 »
« Last Edit on: 03-11-2005 12:04 »

Well Lets face it everyone in their life is at some point dumb immorally angry and eats to much. I wouldnt put homer as a basis at all. Plus without those things the situations they get in wouldnt happen. So as an all round answer I say NO they aren't based on Homer.

Woo Hoo my 100th Post...
Andy1234

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« Reply #25 on: 03-11-2005 12:26 »

bender is a robot not human so technically he dosn't have a life. also he dosn't have emotions so can't feel anger that why he dosn't care about people.

i've had my 100th post today as well.
winna

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« Reply #26 on: 03-11-2005 13:50 »

I'll agree that none of those characters were directly based off aspects of Homer.  But at the same time I can see them encompassing the different sides of Homer's personality.  Also I like teh newbies too ^_^.  You guys should visit the chatroom sometime, just mention that winna referred you there  wink
mint

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« Reply #27 on: 03-11-2005 17:43 »

Well the only Simpson character I like is Homer but I like the show futurama in general including its characters.
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« Reply #28 on: 03-11-2005 18:42 »

On the n00b topic, sorry to trail from the main, I think there should be a definition on n00b. I registered in Feb 2005, but I'm at Bending Unit. And some Mar 2005's are at Bending Unit aswell. Would you classify it only on their length of time on Peel, or maybe on their amount of time on Peel?
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« Reply #29 on: 03-11-2005 19:25 »

Well...Zoidberg is fat as a pig like Homer....smells like Homer(although if not worse...Zoidberg eats out of dumpsters and rotten fish or anything in sight).....Homer eats everything too...and one episode had Homer picking a sub sandwich out of the garbage can once....so I guess Homer also eats everything in sight..well duh? Fry is dumb like Homer....Bender has the Morals of Homer....booze wise anyway. But I dont think Matt Groening did this intentionally.
jan_18_1981

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« Reply #30 on: 03-11-2005 19:31 »

and if he did...who cares? I love the characters just the way they are.   Jan
Andy1234

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« Reply #31 on: 03-12-2005 15:28 »

 
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner:
On the n00b topic, sorry to trail from the main, I think there should be a definition on n00b. I registered in Feb 2005, but I'm at Bending Unit. And some Mar 2005's are at Bending Unit aswell. Would you classify it only on their length of time on Peel, or maybe on their amount of time on Peel?


well i've not been on it for long(gloviously), but like you said, its amount of time spent on PEEL, i go on it everyday,

how about you?
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Move along.
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« Reply #32 on: 03-13-2005 18:58 »

I'd disagree because one of the things that I think Futurama does so much better than the Simpsons is characterizations. 

Homer pretty much is just the dumb, morally grey and sloppy guy that LoserUser split him into.  All four Futurama men have more sophisticated personality traits that serve as basis for humor as well as other more serious things.
Andy1234

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« Reply #33 on: 03-14-2005 12:39 »
« Last Edit on: 03-14-2005 12:39 »

also, for bender, it would be not drinking that gets him messed up as he needs alcohol whereas homer dosn't  sleep
mint

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« Reply #34 on: 03-14-2005 17:48 »
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner
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On the n00b topic, sorry to trail from the main, I think there should be a definition on n00b. I registered in Feb 2005, but I'm at Bending Unit. And some Mar 2005's are at Bending Unit aswell. Would you classify it only on their length of time on Peel, or maybe on their amount of time on Peel?

I think if you been here less than 1 year you are considered a n00b. The ranking is based on the amount of posts you did since you have joined. If somebody has the same rank as you and joined later than you, that could mean s/he spams more, or you had stop to visit this forum for a while, and the ones joined after you continues to be here and later on their rank goes up faster than you.


Andy1234

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« Reply #35 on: 03-22-2005 14:26 »

then you are a n00b as 1 year won't have passed for you until september.
mint

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« Reply #36 on: 03-22-2005 14:41 »

Indeed I still am.
TheRoyalFamily

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« Reply #37 on: 03-30-2005 02:30 »

I would say that Homer is the Everyman. You can find a bit of him in just about any male member of the species, unless they are really weird or something. He was made to be that way. So, yes, there are parts of Homer in our boys. But, I really do not think that it was intentional that they are parts of Homer. No more intentional than you or I are parts of Homer.

Homer was meant to be all the (bad) parts of us, So it is only natural.
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