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DotheBartman
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« Reply #2 on: 01-31-2005 02:04 »
« Last Edit on: 01-31-2005 02:04 »
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It wasn't really intentional I don't think, although Groening did make comments about Bender being "our Homer Simpson", in that he can do many horrible things and have the audience accept and even enjoy it.
But otherwise, those are all fairly standard gag buttons, and common in comedy (including Futurama) for that reason. Homer's popularity comes largely from him embodying all of them. And its only natural that Groening would have a similar style of humor in Futurama, hence those gag buttons being used again. I don't think there was ever a calculated effort to make the characters like Homer. Plus keep in mind that the Professor and Zoidberg both evolved; the former used to be much calmer (as reflected in his voice in the first few episodes) but gradually got crazier and meaner/angrier, while the latter started off as merely a bad doctor (shades of Dr. Nick if anything, though not intentional there either) and then started to become the poor, hungry, lonely, etc character we all know and love as time went on.
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David A
Space Pope
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Originally posted by LoserUser: Bender: morally bad like Homer No, I don't think so. Homer may do a lot of morally questionable things, but I can't think of anything he's done that even comes close to the things that Bender does. Anyway, this should probably be in the Human Resource Department. Originally posted by Venus: I would like to think that simpsons is not the basis for anything futurama related. I think it is, but only in a general way. I don't think that any of the Futurama characters are directly based on Simpsons characters. Originally posted by Eyedol7513: Is it just me, or have alot of new posters started posting? Who are you calling new, August 2004?
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Dr.Jerkbird
Starship Captain
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Originally posted by DotheBartman: It wasn't really intentional I don't think, although Groening did make comments about Bender being "our Homer Simpson", in that he can do many horrible things and have the audience accept and even enjoy it.
But otherwise, those are all fairly standard gag buttons, and common in comedy (including Futurama) for that reason. Homer's popularity comes largely from him embodying all of them. And its only natural that Groening would have a similar style of humor in Futurama, hence those gag buttons being used again. I don't think there was ever a calculated effort to make the characters like Homer. Plus keep in mind that the Professor and Zoidberg both evolved; the former used to be much calmer (as reflected in his voice in the first few episodes) but gradually got crazier and meaner/angrier, while the latter started off as merely a bad doctor (shades of Dr. Nick if anything, though not intentional there either) and then started to become the poor, hungry, lonely, etc character we all know and love as time went on. You always have really long answers! Anywho I think you're out to lunch to be honest!
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Bender-is-Great
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by David A: Homer may do a lot of morally questionable things, but I can't think of anything he's done that even comes close to the things that Bender does. I can agree with that, but Bender can also get away with alot more because he's a robot. For example, say if both Homer and Bender were to do the same stupid, morally questionable thing, we'd kinda wonder how bad of a person Homer is. Whereas with Bender, it's almost, "Eh, he's a robot. Maybe a flaw in his programming or something". Basically, if a person does somehting immoral, we tend to think of them as a bad person, (or start to dislike them) whereas with something not human, ie robot, it's almost forgivable. Well I may be completely off base but that's my 2 cents worth anyway so
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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On the n00b topic, sorry to trail from the main, I think there should be a definition on n00b. I registered in Feb 2005, but I'm at Bending Unit. And some Mar 2005's are at Bending Unit aswell. Would you classify it only on their length of time on Peel, or maybe on their amount of time on Peel?
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42popplers
Crustacean
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I'd disagree because one of the things that I think Futurama does so much better than the Simpsons is characterizations.
Homer pretty much is just the dumb, morally grey and sloppy guy that LoserUser split him into. All four Futurama men have more sophisticated personality traits that serve as basis for humor as well as other more serious things.
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TheRoyalFamily
Crustacean
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I would say that Homer is the Everyman. You can find a bit of him in just about any male member of the species, unless they are really weird or something. He was made to be that way. So, yes, there are parts of Homer in our boys. But, I really do not think that it was intentional that they are parts of Homer. No more intentional than you or I are parts of Homer.
Homer was meant to be all the (bad) parts of us, So it is only natural.
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