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totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #40 on: 10-24-2004 23:34 »

 
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Originally posted by Prof. Wernstrum:
Technically, Beelzebub was Satan's second in command in Paradise Lost, not the Devil himself.

Beelzebub is a corrupted extension of B'aal Zha. B'aal is Satan, as worshipped by the Babylonians and Sumerians. B'aal Zha means "Most High B'aal".

Milton employed poetic licence.
David A

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« Reply #41 on: 10-26-2004 02:20 »

 
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B'aal

Actually, it's Ba'al.  The apostrophe represents a glottal stop.  (In case you don't know what a glottal stop is, this means that the correct pronunciation is "bay-uhl".)
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #42 on: 10-26-2004 02:40 »
« Last Edit on: 10-26-2004 02:40 »

Actually, Ba'al wasn't a God at all. He was the rabid helper monkey of Marduk, and it was his job to come to people at night and poke them with sticks, so that they might groan and roll over in their sleep. He would then devour their exhalations.

Anyone who corrects me is a toolshed.

EDIT: *Earth shattering, blood curdling, chicken worrying howl directed at David A.*
David A

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« Reply #43 on: 10-26-2004 02:49 »

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Anyone who corrects me is a toolshed.

Even if I only correct your misspelling of roll?

Homonyms.  Go figure.
MorboMcFly

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« Reply #44 on: 10-26-2004 05:36 »

 
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
She just likes Kif because he puts up with her shallowness, and is looking for more than just sex. Watch 300 Big Boys, Amy treats Kif like garbage.

Well it is weird since se had said something like "I wonder if my mind is thinking about Kif" since she was sad at a party, but during the episode she was also willing to smell like porpoise hork in order to show her love for Kif and all that he's done for her. As for this episode I think she wasn't that evil... I think she was just jealous that Leela would be engaged before she was, and if you watch in the last scene with the crew she has this bemused look on her face when Zoidberg gleefully buys the newspapers.

As for the rest of the crew Hermes I don't think actually likes anyone else but simply stays there since he knows they provide him with paperwork, Bender wants to be popular and the least logical thing would be to stick around with the loser holophonor, Zoidberg's a semi-encouraging dolt, and the Professor... was he ever shown with his girlfriend again after THBB? Anyways, I assume they carpool back to the office to maybe set up a "you're a loser" party for Fry with naked conga lines or something. I don't think we were meant to focus on them all leaving but just accept that Leela didn't.
VoVat

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« Reply #45 on: 10-27-2004 18:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Prof. Wernstrum:
Technically, Beelzebub was Satan's second in command in Paradise Lost, not the Devil himself.
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Beelzebub is a corrupted extension of B'aal Zha. B'aal is Satan, as worshipped by the Babylonians and Sumerians. B'aal Zha means "Most High B'aal".

I think I heard somewhere that it's kind of a play on words, being derived from "Ba'al Zha," but also literally meaning "Lord of the Flies."  I could be wrong, though.
Rhodan

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« Reply #46 on: 10-30-2004 13:06 »
« Last Edit on: 11-02-2004 00:00 »

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Actually, Ba'al wasn't a God at all. He was the rabid helper monkey of Marduk, and it was his job to come to people at night and poke them with sticks, so that they might groan and roll over in their sleep. He would then devour their exhalations.

Anyone who corrects me is a toolshed.

EDIT: *Earth shattering, blood curdling, chicken worrying howl directed at David A.*
Ehhh, here is Mr. toolshed. From what I know , BaŽal (Lord) was common name for many deities, from BaŽal Zhan to for example BaŽal Adad (Lord of the thunder), but BaŽal in the sense of fertility god of Kanaans WAS pretty important.

Local Jerseyan

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« Reply #47 on: 10-30-2004 17:18 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
 So basically you're saying if two people fall in love, that automatically makes them nice people? What if a prostitute and a pimp fall in love? Or if two convicts fall in love? Are they suddenly nice people? Are the crimes they committed forgettable suddenly now?

As far as Amy being in love with Kif, sure it happened, but she had to have used at least a hundred guys for her needs before that happened. What she wanted was sex, plain and simple. And I bet if she were to break up with Kif, the cycle would start up again. Probably even more so because she would be depressed after the breakup and not know what else to do because screw her brains out.


I think people were trying to bring up qualities about Amy that might make her superficial, more than whether she was nice or not. Anyway, Amy falling in love with Kif proves that she's not superficial, or something.

Anyway, a storyline would be too bogged down if you showed intent for everyone at every moment. Sometimes, focus is necessary. Anyway, yeah, I think it was more of an issue with the writers than anything.
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