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fryfanSpyOrama

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« on: 07-23-2004 01:23 »
« Last Edit on: 07-23-2004 01:23 »

In AOI I, Nichelle Nichols, makes an appearance as one of Al Gore's Action Rangers in the year 2000, but she looks the same age as she was in the 1960's.  While in a recent episode of the Simpsons, she is animated to look like her old self of today. Gray-haired with wrinkles.

When Leonard Nimoy was on Futurama as a head, his face looked like what he looks today, and that is old.  And he was animated to look like his old self when he was on a few episodes of the Simpsons.

I know that this was a what if simlulation, but she should have been her old age. Hey, I'm glad they decided to animate her as her young self, but she needed to be her old self in the year 2000 to make it more realistic.  It would be like having Stephen Hawking in that episode, but without his wheelchair, or voice box.

In WNFHGB, Nichelle Nichols looks like her young self, but that is because Melllvar used his powers to make her young. 

Did Nichelle Nichols know of Melllvar since the 21st century and make a deal to make her look young? Possible theory, but not good enough.


Possible that she had a facelift and dyed her hair black?  Again, it would have been helpful, and funny if Fry asked her, since he's a Star Trek fan.

Ex:
Fry: How come you look like you from the 1960's? wouldn't you look more you know old?
Nichelle Nichols: I had a facelift and dyed my hair. What do you think?
Fry: Neat.

What is the true answer to that mistake?
Grim

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« Reply #1 on: 07-23-2004 04:49 »

Well if you want to be really picky, Steven Hawking on both the simpsons and futurama looks nothing like the real steven hawking

Go with the what if error its the easiest explanation
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #2 on: 07-23-2004 05:49 »

The what-if machine, having no access to what Nichelle Nichols looked like (Star Trek being banned and all) had to read Fry's mind to find out. Fry would always think of her as the 60s Nichelle, so that is what was used on-screen.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #3 on: 07-23-2004 07:11 »

 
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Originally posted by Grim:
Well if you want to be really picky, Steven Hawking on both the simpsons and futurama looks nothing like the real steven hawking

 I think the animators just couldn't bear to draw Hawking with his lop-sided head and his wonky mouth.
DDie

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« Reply #4 on: 07-23-2004 08:39 »

 
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Originally posted by Hedonism Bot:
The what-if machine, having no access to what Nichelle Nichols looked like (Star Trek being banned and all) had to read Fry's mind to find out. Fry would always think of her as the 60s Nichelle, so that is what was used on-screen.

I think we have the solution here!
Y_L_B

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« Reply #5 on: 07-23-2004 13:45 »

^^ Second-ified ^^

Anyway, Hawking probably doesn't look like Hawking because of what MOV said. It would be kind of mean to draw him with his lopsided head and wonky mouth. Funny, maybe, but pretty mean, especially in the Groening style, where facial features are sort of exaggerated.
Allen

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« Reply #6 on: 07-23-2004 15:23 »
« Last Edit on: 07-23-2004 15:23 »

Not to mention that heads in jars are seemingly ageless. Nimoy didn't look too old and neither did any of the others. As for the What if machine, those are just crazy stories. Though Fry's certainly is more plausible, they're not meant to be taken seriously.

Edit: kinda unrelated, but you notice most of the What ifs don't have happy endings? Leela's implusive one and Fry's video game are kind of exceptions, but Leela turned into a murderous psychopath and they lost the video game. Interesting stuff! wink Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #7 on: 07-23-2004 17:15 »

I wasn't trying to be picky, I just wanted to hear what other people thought of that.  But Hedonism Bot, may have an idea.
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #8 on: 07-23-2004 17:56 »

I would like to follow up by suggesting that the Head Museum curators used youthanasia to restore all of the heads to their most famous ages; Leonard Nimoy is most widely recognised as Spock, so he is still fairly young. An actor like Tommy Lee Jones would be youthasised to late middle age, as would most presidents.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #9 on: 07-23-2004 19:30 »

When Nimoy was just a head, he had wrinkles, but when Melllvar gave him a body, he looked like his age from the 1960's.
Kif White

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« Reply #10 on: 07-23-2004 19:36 »

What I always thought was weird was not that Melllvar made Nimoy younger, but that his head aged back again after being removed and returned to the jar.
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #11 on: 07-25-2004 04:55 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
When Nimoy was just a head, he had wrinkles, but when Melllvar gave him a body, he looked like his age from the 1960's.

Maybe celebrities who were alive by the time jar technology was perfected were allowed to choose their own age for their heads; Nimoy obviously wanted people to think of his career after Star Trek, like at the start of WNFHGB. Melllvar, on the other hand, wanted the 1960s Nimoy, to fit in with his miniature Star Trek planet.

Oh sure, blame the wizards...
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #12 on: 07-26-2004 01:46 »

So then how would it get back to its regular state by the end of the episode? Maybe the body gave him anti-aging powers, as it wasn't actually a human body at all, but an improved version of a human body?
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #13 on: 07-26-2004 06:12 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2004 06:12 »

The bodies were just highly sophisticated prostheses, which exuded a thin stem-cell layer over Nimoy's head, causing an effect like in 300BB.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #14 on: 08-06-2004 16:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Hedonism Bot:
The what-if machine, having no access to what Nichelle Nichols looked like (Star Trek being banned and all) had to read Fry's mind to find out. Fry would always think of her as the 60s Nichelle, so that is what was used on-screen.


That seems likely, but not possible first of all.  the Professor is the one who actually asks the what if machine, the questions the PE crew has.  And even if it did tap into the minds of the PE crew, that is an error.  When it shows Leela's what if of her being impulsive, she says she's never seen Scruffy, but Scruffy appears in her simulation.  How can Scruffy be in there, if the real Leela has never seen Scruffy, therefore I don't think the what if machine reads minds.
VoVat

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« Reply #15 on: 08-06-2004 22:41 »

Maybe her subconscious mind remembered Scruffy, even though her conscious mind forgot him.
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #16 on: 08-08-2004 18:34 »

The What-If Machine knows about Scruffy, as there is data relevant to him available - PE records, etc. If the Star Trek videos are forbidden, and most other video tapes were destroyed during the second coming of Jesus, then the only data available about Nichelle Nichols would be from the head of somebody who saw her in the 20th-21st century, and as Fry was the closest available 20th century mind, the What-If Machine used his memories.

I am assuming that the What-If Machine uses a combination of computerised data access and mind-reading to generate the simulations.
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