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winna
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Robot Devil = lazy.... Abandoned theme parks NEVER go underground. They make for great haunted things or something, ask Scooby Doo. Also Bender can feel, he has an antennae. And ummm..... Robot hell is really, well whatever. Wait..... you're some jerk that just saw that episode right now..... jerk.....
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Nixorbo
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DOOP Secretary
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No, just that it's not surprising that hell is in North Jersey.
And since when do robots not feel pain?
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Teral
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Robot's can feel pain, Bender have screamed several times. They just don't have emotions, and that makes them very sad. The trap door was for uninvited guests, in other words intruders. I'm sure Beelzebot have a grande and pompous gate somewhere that only he is allowed to use. Maybe the thema park only closed a few years ago? Robot Hell might be in North New Jersey, but they probably outsourced some of their more shadier business to South New Jersey. Originally posted by probulater: it is a cartoon!!!!!!!!!! From: Pot To: Kettle re: Your color You're black!
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
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Originally posted by Birdbot: But in When Aliens Attack he doesn't like having a "red hot glowing ass".
Originally posted by Teral: They just don't have emotions, and that makes them very sad. That makes Bender very sad - I don't think any other robot has said that But you haven't heard anyone denying it either. Originally posted by Teral: Maybe the thema park only closed a few years ago? Fry: Wait I remember this place. They shut it down after all those people caught salmonella from the flume ride From The Neutral Planet
Okay, maybe it shut down 6 months ago.
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Zoidfan
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Maybe in after Fry was frozen the theme park started up again, then, later closed down.
Also maybe Bender developed the FEEL sense after I Second That Emotion.
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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Hey, i live in north jersey and its not THAT bad. The only bad part is not being able to buy stuff besides food on Sunday in my county. Other than that, I think there are other places worthy of the name hell. (ie. Colorado, France, etc)
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EddieTheEditor
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« Reply #17 on: 04-15-2004 21:49 »
« Last Edit on: 04-15-2004 21:49 »
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Interseting theories, everyone... Wait..... you're some jerk that just saw that episode right now..... jerk.....
I've seen it before. I just don't think of these things until I watch them a few times. EDIT: Maybe Fry saw the park AFTER he was unfozen! It could be that it aws run-down due to general lack of respect for Health Code standards (Salmonella on Flume Ride), and it's actually RECENTLY shut down!
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Chump
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by EddieTheEditor: One, how can you tortue something that is unable to feel? Robots can feel. There have been examples of this throughout the series. Originally posted by EddieTheEditor: Two, Why was there a trap door underneath the entrance to Robot Hell? Couldn't the Robot Devil just use the main entrance behind the mirror? The Robot Devil can, but as we saw with Fry and Leela, it's useful to have a trap door. Plus he might like sliding down rather than taking a huge ladder of some kind. Would you rather do something that's more or less work? Damn right. Originally posted by EddieTheEditor: Three, if Fry remembers the Theme Park (and it's closing) why is it not in Old New York? Why'd they keep an abandoned theme park above the surface? It's in New Jersey, which was only buried in garbage, not destroyed. Originally posted by EddieTheEditor: Four, Why doesn't the Robot Devil go after Bender? In "Lesser of Two Evils" in the following season, it is revealed that Bender changed his serial number (if you watch the deleted scenes). Therefore, he is untracable. Case closed.
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EddieTheEditor
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Originally posted by Hedonism Bot: Robot Hell, like the Temple of Robotology, was created by humans to keep robots from rebelling, shortly after the Chapek 9 incident. Morally-programmed robots refrain from rebelling against society because it is against their religion, and all the others like the human vices too much, like smoking and drinking. Robot Hell was created because faith is incredibly hard to program; the robots had to know that they would be punished. That is also why robots feel pain - so that they can be punished.
Where the crap was THAT stated?
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by EddieTheEditor: Where the crap was THAT stated? Its a good theory though. Humans created Robot Jesus and the religion to keep robots under control. Sounds logical.
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Hedonism Bot
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by EddieTheEditor: We've had no evidence that humans have had problems (outisde the rampaging killbots) with robots, and they also seem content to leave the Chapek 9 bots alone. [snip] Why would they feel the need to brain-wash their robotic servants by creating an entire religion? And if they DID create robotology, what about the Hebrew-bots in Futurestock? Why would they bother creating two diverse religions if one was all they needed to control them? Also, the Prof. states that Bender should've joined a main-stream religion, insinuating that robots are welcome to join any (or no) religion? We've had no evidence that the robots have caused problems because they haven't, thanks to concepts like Robot Hell and The Temple of Robotology being incorporated very early on by prudent scientists. You wouldn't unleash thousands of metal beings upon humanity without some guarantee that they wouldn't kill everybody; you lose your BSI Kitemark for stuff like that. The Chapek 9 robots were probably unsuccessful attempts at giving robots personalities, and it was felt that it would be cheaper to start again than wage war on Chapek 9. Therefore, the personalities from then on would have been modified to make them easier to control. In order for robots to have personalities, it is necessary for them to have a certain amount of free will. This presents a problem, as the whole point of most robots is to make humans' lives easier and/or to provide cheap, effective labour. It is therefore neccessary to incorporate in the design of robots ways of controlling them. The easiest way is to make them feel pain, which makes them vulnerable and would both provide a way to punish them and make them think twice about going on insane killing sprees. Pride in their work was included in their programming to encourage efficient work; this is shown by Bender's enthausiasm for bending and Calculon's desire to win an Oscar. To make robots need to work in the first place, they were designed to run on man-made fuels, rather than water or re-chargeable batteries. This means that, rather than simply standing out in the rain or jacking on to the National Grid, robots have to buy their fuel from somewhere, giving them a reason to work. Of course, some robots simply resort to crime (Roberto, the Robot Mafia, Bender), but it's the same with humans. Robot religion is to stop the robot population rebelling in all aspects of life. Their own religion which they can relate to also makes them feel like proper members of society, instead of strangers in a foreign land - although, as EddieTheEditor pointed out, robots are accepted in other religions. As robots have free will, they logically might find that another religion is more relavent to their lifestyle. Robot Hell is the flip side of the coin; it provides another incentive for robots not to rebel. It is also an incredibly efficient way to punish robots without humans being involved; retribution from one's own family or social group is always more effective than that of an outsider. Hebrew-bots are either an example of robots joining an already-formed religion, thanks to free will, or a case of robots being designed to fit in best with their surroundings, like the Robot Devil being red and devil-like, or Bender being grey to complement the industrial environment in which he was designed to work.
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Blastina
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Robot religion is to stop the robot population rebelling in all aspects of life. Hmmm...the same principle applies to us humans. I think you're on to something there, buddy
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EddieTheEditor
Crustacean
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Huh. The future must be complicated. Or they haven't heard of Asimov's laws of robotics. Good points, though.
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Steel Sima Yi
Crustacean
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Both Mom and Zapp were able to control Benders (and every robot for Mom) actions. Seems like robots get a certain amount of freedom and a generally "normal" personality. And in space pilot 3000, Bender actually cared that he was helping people commit suicide and only had his attitude towards humans changed after he ran into that lightbulb (wow... but it makes me wonder why his personality didn't change back or to a different one again after his electricity addiction). So yah, just as correct to question why people believe in whatever religion.
Also, Bender has said "Oh, my god". Not quite sure if it was after Hell is other robots or not though, but would this seem to suggest that he still infact believes in his religion but loves his sins so much that the consequences are worth it? :P O:-)
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