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tom123

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« on: 04-13-2004 20:35 »
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Fry was unfrozen in New New York as it shows in Space Pilot 3000. On the other hand he was frozen in New York which are ruins underground. I think I asked this somewhere else but I can't remember where and I also can't remember the answer, so please tell me your explanations.   confused
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« Reply #1 on: 04-13-2004 20:43 »

The answer is that Futurama is a cartoon and people that make it can do whatever the hell they want. Also, I can't come up with a good answer.
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« Reply #2 on: 04-13-2004 20:44 »

I would assume that it was just kept above ground because many important people were frozen, and so the cryogenics lab would have to be above the ground to make it easier to access.

Also, for the purposes of the story in "Space Pilot 3000", Fry had to be unfrozen in New New York. The idea was that he saw a new world after being frozen for 1000 years. Also, the climax of the story takes place in Old New York, when Fry realizes that anyone that he ever knew or cared about was gone. If he had awoke in Old New York, that (in my opinion) touching scene would have been lost, and the episode would have suffered.
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« Reply #3 on: 04-13-2004 20:44 »
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I never saw a thread like this (and I do not intend to look) so here it goes.

Fry's building was lifted out of the ruins of New York by the Historical Sticklers Society in conjunction with the Nibblonians.

Edit: Awwww crap! I'm just too slow, I though I was gonna be first, but two people beat me to it.
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« Reply #4 on: 04-13-2004 20:57 »

In early versions of the pilot episode, there's a scene where Fry visits the Empire State Building, which is now mostly below ground, save for the top few floors.

So it's possible that the Cryogenics place was one of the top floors of a very tall building, so that the top couple of stories would be above the ground in New New York.
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« Reply #5 on: 04-13-2004 21:18 »

PCC Fred has a good point. If i remember correctly in SP3K, the Cryogenics builing is quite tall.
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« Reply #6 on: 04-13-2004 21:47 »

I think what's more amazing is that in 1000 years of being frozen, nobody fucked with Fry's little chamber there.
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« Reply #7 on: 04-14-2004 03:27 »

Yeah, I found it more unconvincing that New Yorkers wouldn't have noticed some guy is in their cryogenics lab and hasn't paid... actual cryogenics is very expensive, I understand.

Also another question - I don't have overmuch time or patience to go digging through threads to find this out but - does anyone know where the New York stuff in Futurama comes from?  Groening or Cohen or what?  I'm from NYC, and I appreciate that a lot of the sight gags and little jokes are sort of for-New-Yorkers only in some ways.  What up wit dat? 
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« Reply #8 on: 04-14-2004 03:31 »

in the commentary, someone talks about a good portion of th writing staff and and a few voices are from new jersey.
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« Reply #9 on: 04-14-2004 04:17 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
I think what's more amazing is that in 1000 years of being frozen, nobody fucked with Fry's little chamber there.

They just probably wanted to wait and charge him for 1000 years of cryogenic freezing. Then, over the years, this piece of information got lost, (possibly during the second coming of jesus) and people just assumed he had already paid.

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« Reply #10 on: 04-14-2004 07:25 »

wasn't his chamber on the 64th floor or something.

maybe the new 'ground' level of NNY is some lower floor of the original building, under which were sealed off. so now it just had less floors, but Fry's level was still above the new street level.

the building and chambers were probably protected by the nibblonians, as explained by someone in an older thread.
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« Reply #11 on: 04-14-2004 10:49 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
In early versions of the pilot episode, there's a scene where Fry visits the Empire State Building, which is now mostly below ground, save for the top few floors.

So it's possible that the Cryogenics place was one of the top floors of a very tall building, so that the top couple of stories would be above the ground in New New York.

You don't have to watch cut scenes for that, 500 foot tall Bender was impalled on the Emipre State Building in AOI I.

And I agree with your theory 200%.

Don't confuse not caring with not knowing!
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« Reply #12 on: 04-14-2004 18:41 »

Short answer: wizards
PCC Fred

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« Reply #13 on: 04-14-2004 18:50 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
I think what's more amazing is that in 1000 years of being frozen, nobody fucked with Fry's little chamber there.

As has been mentioned in other threads, the Nibblonians would've protected his cryo chamber to ensure he survived till the year 3000.
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« Reply #14 on: 04-28-2004 22:44 »

I'm going to quote what Matt Groening said about that in the commentary, "secret".
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« Reply #15 on: 04-28-2004 22:51 »

 
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Originally posted by BarneyBurnham:
Short answer: wizards

Seems like those damn Wizards are to blame for alot of things in the Futurama universe...

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« Reply #16 on: 04-29-2004 04:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
500 foot tall Bender was impalled on the Emipre State Building in AOI I.

don't forget this was a "what if"
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« Reply #17 on: 04-29-2004 10:08 »

The cyrogenics lab is an important place, so they just moved it above ground. I was asking the same thing to myself a while ago and came up with that obvious answer. Why leave important things underground? They had living celebrities in there.
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« Reply #18 on: 04-29-2004 11:34 »

Maybe it grew out of old new york! And the lazy-ass gardener couldnt be bothered to chop it down!

Those Damn Gardeners!
Teral

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« Reply #19 on: 04-29-2004 13:38 »

 
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Originally posted by cyba:
 don't forget this was a "what if"

Yeah, but the "What if"'s aren't completely made up. I see them more as an extrapolation, plausible to within 1/10 of a plausibility unit. I don't think it would change city lay-outs, borders and similar stuff. Meaning the skyline of New New York is exactly like we see it in AOI I.
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« Reply #20 on: 04-29-2004 15:45 »
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Originally posted by Teral:
I don't think it would change city lay-outs, borders and similar stuff.

Um-yep, that's what i meant - isn't the empire state building lying flat in the underground level seen in SP3yk? Or am i just being dense
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« Reply #21 on: 04-29-2004 15:56 »

That was the Chrysler Building.
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« Reply #22 on: 04-29-2004 16:23 »

Empire State Building
Chrysler Building
To any who don't know the difference   smile

When you do things right, people wont be sure you've done anything at all.
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« Reply #23 on: 04-29-2004 17:06 »

Its those damn Europeans.... Not knowing which building from which.

 laff
Alliteration

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« Reply #24 on: 04-29-2004 20:33 »

Yes! Damn those French and their Sydney Opera House!
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« Reply #25 on: 04-30-2004 00:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Alliteration:
Yes! Damn those French and their Sydney Opera House!

Hey! I'm goin there this summer! I can't wait to see that...

fromage

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« Reply #26 on: 04-30-2004 02:14 »

 
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Short answer: wizards


Sure... blame the wizards again
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« Reply #27 on: 04-30-2004 08:24 »

I remember watching a behind the scenes doco on the dvds. it had Matt Groening looking at the storyboards of the bit with Fry frozen and the landscape changing through time. Matt pointed to the buildings of New New York and said something like: "Make it look like the ground level has risen." After making the Simpsons i think he was prepeard for sticklers like us!!
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« Reply #28 on: 04-30-2004 09:06 »

 
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Yes! Damn those French and their Sydney Opera House!

What the hell are you talking about you fungo? The Sydney Opera House has nothing to do with the French.

It was designed by a Dane, Joern Utzon. Get your facts right before you speak.

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« Reply #29 on: 04-30-2004 12:07 »

Whooooshhh...
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« Reply #30 on: 04-30-2004 12:25 »

What?, what did I miss?
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« Reply #31 on: 04-30-2004 16:14 »

 
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Originally posted by Iron Chef:
 What the hell are you talking about you fungo? The Sydney Opera House has nothing to do with the French.

It was designed by a Dane, Joern Utzon. Get your facts right before you speak.



Apparently you Aussies dont understand sarcasm tha well....
  laff

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« Reply #32 on: 04-30-2004 16:44 »

As for the Cryonics people noticing Fry hadn't paid to be there, since the whole thing was orchastrated by the nibblonians maybe they hacked the computer system and added Fry to the Cryonics customer database. That way Fry has the proper papertrail to prevent anyone from noticing that anything was wrong.
Alliteration

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« Reply #33 on: 04-30-2004 17:11 »

 
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What?, what did I miss?

Yes, it was a joke.

Also, what exactly is a fungo?
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« Reply #34 on: 04-30-2004 17:37 »

 
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Also, what exactly is a fungo?

I dunno, Aussie slang?

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« Reply #35 on: 04-30-2004 17:42 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
As for the Cryonics people noticing Fry hadn't paid to be there, since the whole thing was orchastrated by the nibblonians maybe they hacked the computer system and added Fry to the Cryonics customer database. That way Fry has the proper papertrail to prevent anyone from noticing that anything was wrong.

Or thawed the guy who was supposed to be in that tube and chucked him in the dumpster smelling of cheap rum so nobody would believe him. The cryonics folks would not notice/care who was in the tube. Just a thought (as in, I didn't think much about it, and may be directly contradicted by something seen in the show).
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« Reply #36 on: 04-30-2004 17:46 »
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Actually, that sounds far to plausible to not be true. Or maybe the Nibblonians threw him in the dumbster to clear a tube for Fry.

 
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Its those damn Europeans.... Not knowing which building from which.

   laff

I'm European, and I can tell which is which pretty easily. I mean, it's not like they're weird houses in some backwater Mississippi village.
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« Reply #37 on: 04-30-2004 17:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
 I'm European, and I can tell which is which pretty easily. I mean, it's not like they're weird houses in some backwater Mississippi village.

It was a joke, but i see your point, Teral.

  laff

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« Reply #38 on: 04-30-2004 17:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Actually, that sounds far to plausible to not be true. Or maybe the Nibblonians threw him in the dumbster to clear a tube for Fry.

That's actually what I meant... but whatever.

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« Reply #39 on: 05-01-2004 01:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Alliteration:
Also, what exactly is a fungo?

I was jsut taking that from a Leela of Her Own. Hank Aaron uses it to describe his relative.
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