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Young_and_Angry
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident: What bothered me about the "Don't worry dad!" line was that I always thought Enos looked more like Fry's mom. It was prolly just some Fry idiotic confusion. I thought that he really "mated" with Mildred, and that Mildred is Fry's mom's mom.But we'll never REALLY know.
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Spacedal11: No he was engaged...to a woman. i dunno, i think he had deeper feelings for the shirtless cowboy in the calender...
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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Just speaking the way he does makes him gay in my book. Remember, i've got gaydar.
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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He should be in independent films. All those gay cowboys and pudding....*cheap south park plug*
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Allen
Professor
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Originally posted by Alliteration: Fry: "You almost got neutered!" Enos: "T'aint as bad as getting killed"
Of course he is gay. That actually bothered me. Gay or not, he's still a guy. Guys don't have to be neutered to know that's gonna hurt. He's so calm. I would have been like: "You idiot! Are you trying to make me envy the dead or what?!"
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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If he'd met the shirtless calender cowboy first, i'd bet he would have gone with him..
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mpbx3003
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« Reply #64 on: 05-04-2004 23:07 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2004 23:07 »
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So, everyone always says that fry being his own grandfather is supported by the why of fry, but who says the nibblonians were absolutely correct? maybe they picked him out to create the brainwave(lack of) they needed, so are they the evil ones? Maybe they told him the story to make not feel like a normal genetic freak, but rather that his actions were the cause... and he is 1/3 of all his other grandparents (he is always a fraction of himself, but it becomes mathematically insignificant at 1/3... Yancy(PJF's dad) would be 2/3 mildred and 1/6 each of his wife's parents... Yancy(his brother) would be the same as fry, so why wouldn't he and his descendants be affected by the brain wave thing? because Yancy jr.(34th?) would have the fry loop as his Y chromosome. so any possible combonation would result in the brain wave deformity... my brain hurts... If the deformity comes only by being your own grandfather, why was fry chosen? how many other pizza delivery boys were there? I don't think nibbler really pushed him, or else Fry as the chosen one is arbitrary... To explain that last argument I say that he would have fallen anyway and Nibbler just made sure of it... I know nibbler called in the pizza delivert, but he could have taken over the situation from another crank caller (Al Gore?)and applied it to the nibblonians situation... so Fry was going to go to the future anyway, or he was just a random person chosen, because he needed the nibblonians to lack the delta brain wave... maybe he was born with the lacking brain waves deformity, and had to have it amplified... geesh i've rambled...
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ninja_nightmare
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can't u just appreciate the show for wat it is instead of analyzing it
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cyba
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by boxie: Here's what the artical says for those too lazy...Then, when Fry's father mated with Fry's mother, the sperm that conceived Fry would have had the identical genetic makeup as the one that conceived Fry's father. The odds against this are staggering. And for each generation removed, it becomes more unlikely, because the exact same genetic code must be passed down through the generations or the ultimate result, in this case Fry, will not be genetically identical to himself, creating a paradox But if the genes passed down weren't identical, and Fry ended up looking different, well a new time-line would emerge, and the whole thing could go into infinite regression. Possibly he wouldn't even travel back in time anyway...Maybe the Fry family "stoopidness" gene trait is so strong that things would work out the same anyway. Yeah. My head hurts now too.
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mic
Bending Unit
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Nixorbo's Golden Rule of Understanding Time Travel
Don't try to explain or understand temporal paradoxes. You'll just give yourself a headache and make yourself go crosseyed. Anyway, how it works is that Philip Fry goes back in time to Roswell. Fry accidentally kills his 'grandfather', who never was his grandfather in the first place. He then has his way with his grandmother, who has Yancy Snr. (Philip's father). Now, in the days of Fry's grandfather (and even now), it was rather inappropirate for Philip's grandma to be having an affair. As Philip was only there for a short time, Philip's grandma could claim that she had her way with Philip's "grandfather" before he died, as the date which Philip did it with her is close enough to say she did it with her husband. It works, as no pregnancy lasts for exactly the same length, just Yancy Snr. may have been "late" in Fry's grandmother's attempt to cover it up. This has also been discussed in much detail here, so I think that this thread'll get closed soon. Originally posted by ninja_nightmare: can't u just appreciate the show for wat it is instead of analyzing it Agreed. This is why I hate having to read books for English classes... having to pick them apart afterwards.
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fussili
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Yep, the genetics makes sense. I for one am red haired with neither parent being red-haired, both are carriers of the red hair alele (can't remember how to spell that, It's been 4 years since I last studied biology).
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by ninja_nightmare: can't u just appreciate the show for wat it is instead of analyzing it Sounds like something Mike Scully would say. <IMG SRC=" http://peel.gotfuturama.com/ubb/tongue.gif">
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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What you talking about, Willis? The Simpsons is alive and well in their 15th season.
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Pokefan3000
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Yeah, dude you need to watch more Pokemon
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Allen
Professor
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Originally posted by Pokefan3000: Yeah, dude you need to watch more Pokemon While the thread has gone off-topic, this has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. Also, respect that not everyone likes the show you're advocating. For something on-topic. Fry was always his own grandfather. I believe the reason he has no delta brainwave is because Fry is a paradox. While it could be argued the whole Fry family from that point on is a paradox, most first-borns get the dominant genes and the second borns are more receptive to recessive. (say that 10 times fast) It can be assumed that Fry's genetic abnormality is the result of recessive genes that he himself caused. Sorry, if I rehashed stuff I said before, but the topic has been discussed many times. Plus mpbx3003's theory makes no sense. "Except for the word blern, that was complete gibberish."
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Popetastic
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Originally posted by boxie: Interesting to note - my uncle and aunt have brown hair. They have three children, two with red hair, one with blond. We could chalk that up to either the recessive genes or to your family's many, many torrid affairs. Oh yes. Anyway, I've heard this theory, but it doesn't make much sense: Fry originally did have Enos' genes. When he did the nasty in the pasty, and created timeline 2 (where Fry is his own grandpa) he still contained Enos' genes, but to a much smaller percentage (25% of 25%, which I guess is like 6.25%). TIMELINE 1 Enos + Mildred = Yancy Yancy + Frys Mom = Fry Fry goes to 1947, creating an alternate timeline (TIMELINE 2) TIMELINE 2 Fry + Mildred = Yancy Yancy + Frys Mom = Fry The reason I think this theory is complete BS is because it makes things too linear (ie that the FIRST time it happened, Fry had 25% Enos). But who cares about the first time idea when common sense says that Fry instantly would lose Enos' genes when he impregnates Mildred, because now they NEVER had sex. I feel sick. I think the idea of the "space time self-preservation effect" is a better explanation. It's essentially the "wizards of time" theory Wernstrum mentioned...it just says that the time would do anything possible to prevent a paradox. Therefore if Fry became his own grandfather (which would pretty much be a paradox - changing his own genetic makeup while he is alive), time would somehow step in and make things right. Trying to figure this out is fun and painful at the same time.
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