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Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #280 on: 05-19-2007 22:29 »

Seymour? Stupid? I have a theory against that...

I read up on the upcoming Futurama movie, Bender's Big Score, and from both summaries of the movie (by Hercules the Strong and David X. Cohen), Seymour is to appear and would probably have some significance to the prophecy. Knowing that, I re-watched Jurassic Bark and noticed this one detail.

In the episode's flashback to December 31, 1999, Seymour attempted to stop Fry from going to make the final pizza delivery for the year, or his fate. This isn't normal for Seymour. Mr. Panucci actually pointed that fact out in his dialog. Seymour must have known something about what was going to happen to Fry if he was acting up like that.

Though this is a bit far-fetched, I think that it's possible that some point earlier that day/week/year/whatever that he saw, heard, or even encountered Nibbler and found out about the plot and took action later to try to prevent loosing his master. Though that's just me.

One thing that I didn't get is that Seymour knew that Fry was never going to come back, yet he still waited there. If Seymour knew about Fry's fate and stood there all of his life, then he must be an extremely hopeful mutt.
RexSand

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« Reply #281 on: 05-20-2007 12:49 »

My favorite line of that episode is in the scene were Seymour tries to stop fry.

Mr.Panucci= whats he doing mayby he thinks your pants are to long which is ridiculous cause frankly I think you look fabulous now go.

loved it
PazuzuJr

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« Reply #282 on: 05-30-2007 05:39 »

@Frida Waterfall - I don't think Seymour trying to stop fry from going is to do with Seymour seeing nibbler or being really smart (but I guess it's possible.) I'd say its more because dogs are meant to tell when something bad is going to happen like if there is going to be a storm, hurricane ect. Like in Pirates of the Caribbean 2 when the dog jumped from the boat knowing there was a wave coming and there was a story in the newspaper last week about a dog who could tell his owner what she was going to have an epileptic fit 1/2 and hour before he had one and warned her to get somewhere safe.
bored idiot

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« Reply #283 on: 05-30-2007 18:31 »
« Last Edit on: 05-30-2007 18:31 »

well, if he was smart, he would have had better taste than "walking on sunshine" after the '80s had ended.
winna

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« Reply #284 on: 05-31-2007 14:58 »

Whatever.  The dog singing Walking on Sunshine was the best part of that episode.
bored idiot

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« Reply #285 on: 05-31-2007 15:16 »

but, you know, at least he didn't sing "waterloo" by abba
Ralph Snart

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« Reply #286 on: 05-31-2007 23:09 »

 
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Originally posted by Frida Waterfall:

One thing that I didn't get is that Seymour knew that Fry was never going to come back, yet he still waited there. If Seymour knew about Fry's fate and stood there all of his life, then he must be an extremely hopeful mutt.

Seymour recognized that Fry was in danger - animals are good at that kinda stuff.  That's why he tried to stop Fry from delivering the pizza.

As for waiting for 12 years for Fry - that's love and loyalty for you.  Fry wasn't loved or respected by anybody - except Seymour.  Fry returned that love and respect - an insight to Fry's character.

Still, the first time I saw the end, it was a "WTF moment".

DoTheBenderOhAh

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« Reply #287 on: 06-02-2007 17:24 »

My favorite episode by far......the ending was really sad.....i feel sad for a day after i watch that episode lol.........seymour stupid?....a dog that can bark a song is stupid?...hmmm y e a h
Robo D Rulz!!

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« Reply #288 on: 06-05-2007 13:48 »

Seymour IS not stupid, he can bark a song and thats something not many dogs can do. He's just very loyal.

Jurassic bark is a great episode and the most emotional one, almost made me cry  cry

Finally I get to save the earth with deadly lasers instead of deadly slide-shows. 'Al Gore, Bender's Big Score'

Oh ya, Happy Holidays too!
Rosa

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« Reply #289 on: 06-23-2007 16:01 »

I liked this scene, but the end of The Luck of the Fryrish was the best.
That one made me cry.
leyzer87
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« Reply #290 on: 06-27-2007 08:07 »
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Hi this is mine first post on forum. I was really touched when i saw the ending of this eppisode. I must say that such a things are really unusual for me. My first thought was "oh God, that just can't end like this, i hope there's episode when Fry dicided to bring back his dog alive." But there's not. Maybe that would be good idea, to send e-mail to writers of that amazing cartoon, with proposision of puttin' Seymour to carton? Maybe similar as a Nibbler?
Nicky boy

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« Reply #291 on: 06-27-2007 13:31 »

seymour cant be stupid if he can bark out the beat of im walking on sunshine!
defdev1

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« Reply #292 on: 06-27-2007 17:46 »

idk but i thought that it should have one an emmy besides rosswell that endswell
MrBlonde

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« Reply #293 on: 06-27-2007 18:53 »

I agree with you DefDev but again please refrain form using MSN talk like "idk", use the actual words.
bend_her

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« Reply #294 on: 06-30-2007 14:01 »

 
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Originally posted by bored idiot:
but, you know, at least he didn't sing "waterloo" by abba

Or that Wang Chung song...
  puke
ehill

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« Reply #295 on: 07-17-2007 06:23 »

I'm a 20 year old male... the amount of occasions where I leak fluid from my eyes is few in numbers and far between. For some reason, this episode was one of those occasions and just tore me up inside.

I seriously need some closure and really hope that Seymour makes an appearance in the stuff thats coming out next year... how could he not make an appearance? Seymour is one of the biggest emotion jerker's in the entire series, for me at least. I can't imagine he would be left out and that this case is closed.

I don't like and can't accept how that episode played out... I think there is more that needs to be revealed/said and done and I consider the case still 'OPEN' looking for resolution in the upcoming DVD movie.

That was my first post... I'm a big fan of Futurama and I'll probably be around here often. Just ordered the 4 DVD box set, can't wait to watch whatever episode I want, whenever I want. It's just such an amazing "Cartoon" ... I don't know what clown pulled the plug, it's way better than the modern Simpson's garbage.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #296 on: 07-18-2007 23:51 »

I agree with what's being posted here.  Jurassic Bark is on tonight on the Cartoon Network, and I plan on catching it.  Matt Groening knows how to yank peoples emotional chains when he wants to; this episode ending is as heartfelt as "the Luck of the Fryish" to me...
Raulrama

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« Reply #297 on: 07-24-2007 12:29 »

Id love to see Seymour in the new episodes... and if itīs possible having a better ending, the one in Jurassic Bark was so sad and the poor dog didnt deserve it
Coltonwiggum

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« Reply #298 on: 07-24-2007 16:24 »

Has it not been said we'll see Seymour again in the movie from a Cohen interview?
Raulrama

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« Reply #299 on: 07-26-2007 13:16 »

 Yes I read it, but what is going to happen? Will it die again or what? We donīt know.. Hope they treat it nice this time!
Sine Wave

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« Reply #300 on: 07-26-2007 20:10 »

Apparently sources indicate Bender time traveling to       the year 2000, so I assume this leads to interaction with Seymour.
noobwriter32

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« Reply #301 on: 07-29-2007 10:08 »

Jurassic Bark was a surprise to me when I first saw it. And now whenever I see it, its like getting kicked in the nuts! I love the episode because its hilarious, and then it takes one of the most surprising and saddest turns in the futurama universe!

But I do hope with the movies and such the interaction with seymour comes back. I love that little dog!
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #302 on: 08-26-2007 18:46 »

Seymour wasn't stupid or dumb.  Seymour loved Fry and was very faithful to him.   When Fry disappeared, Seymour waited and waited until he came back. 

I hope Seymour is seen in the movie.  Probably won't be. 
defdev1

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« Reply #303 on: 08-26-2007 19:11 »

 
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Originally posted by MrBlonde:
I agree with you DefDev but again please refrain form using MSN talk like "idk", use the actual words.

Sorry im trying to get out of that habbit..........

"Oh Look Its DefDev1!" "And his Friend Jesus"
Flounder

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« Reply #304 on: 08-26-2007 20:57 »

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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Well Seymore spent his whole life lying on the street waiting for Fry for all those years. That's pretty stupid to me.

Have you ever truly loved anything or anyone - ever?
I didn't think so.  no no
gaschief

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« Reply #305 on: 08-29-2007 13:20 »

Its a dedication few humans could match...I dont think its sad though, should be admired really.
arsenalfc

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« Reply #306 on: 10-01-2007 15:46 »
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Okay im usually sort of a "alpha male" type of guy, you know the type that does weights, plays sports and drives a V6, and i hadn't cried watching a movie since i was like 7 and that was during the Lion King after Mufasa died. But after watching this episode i found myself bawling my eyes out, mainly because it bought up memories of my own dog that was tragically hit by a car 2 years ago. I think this episode really hits a nerve with people who've ever experienced love of any sort and lost it and to anyone who thinks that the idea of a dog showing such unflinching loyalty, such as Seymour did with Fry, as "stupid" and "unrealistic", google or wiki the names Greyfriars Bobby and Hachiko. These are TRUE stories and the names of REAL dogs who showed the same amount of loyalty as Seymour did after their own masters had passed away.
sammywhammo

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« Reply #307 on: 10-06-2007 00:16 »

This episode aired tonight again on Adult Swim. arsenalfc sums up what I think, and I was also going to site those dogs, too. look up the episode on wikipedia, it's all there. I can't think of a sad moment when I've cried during a movie as far as I remember. I cry unexplainable hard during this episode. Additionally, I saw this episode with friends who all nearly cried. It reminded me of my favorite childhood cat who died, and it reminded my fried of a dog who died I guess. Don't get me wrong, I'm a bitter man who laughs at cheap shots and accidents. I laugh at my stupidness for crying afterwards, but I'll be damned if Seymour doesn't remind me of that cat every goddamn time and make me cry.
MartiVH

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« Reply #308 on: 10-06-2007 13:44 »

I was watching on Adult Swim last night (early this morning?) too.  First time I'd seen the episode.  I'm still teary-eyed this afternoon.

I badly hope they revisit this plot in the upcoming movies and give us some closure.  Seymour deserves a better ending than he got.

I'm still so sad . . .
trickster381

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« Reply #309 on: 11-04-2007 10:46 »

Seymour deserves alot more then he got, Fry deserves to get kicked in the ass for what he did.
SonicPanther

Professor
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« Reply #310 on: 11-15-2007 18:52 »

Deciding not to clone Seymour? That was a smart decision actually, and you could tell it was hard for him to admit it. He probably still felt guilty without knowing the dog's fate.

Gotta stand by my Fry at all costs...  tongue
PazuzuJr

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« Reply #311 on: 11-16-2007 16:59 »

I really don't wnt seymore back - that episodews so sad but in  good way - if seymore came back the whole ep would be pointless.

Fry made the right descision leaving seymore. He thought seymore had lived a happy life. He didn't want seymore's lst years to be spent waiting for him.
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #312 on: 12-03-2007 06:23 »

OK, I have a question.  In "Jurassic Bark", Seymour dies while laying down on the street.  Yet, in "Bender's Big Score" he is shown alive and well right before the explosion fossilizes him.  What's up with this apparent lack of continuity?  Basically, when is his "official" death?
Kryten

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« Reply #313 on: 12-03-2007 17:30 »

How do we know we saw him die in "Jurassic Bark"?
Unknown

Starship Captain
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« Reply #314 on: 12-03-2007 22:29 »

I never thought we did.  I assumed that he was just falling asleep...hoping that Fry would come back and wake him up...oh, I made myself sad.
Kryten

Space Pope
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« Reply #315 on: 12-03-2007 22:52 »

(offers Unknown a handful of gummi antidepressants)
MartiVH

Poppler
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« Reply #316 on: 12-05-2007 01:05 »

Saaaaay, may I have one or two of those?
Kryten

Space Pope
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« Reply #317 on: 12-05-2007 01:19 »

I dunno... are you depressed? 'Cause if someone in a normal mood took a couple of these... yow.
Gocad

Space Pope
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« Reply #318 on: 12-05-2007 09:32 »
« Last Edit on: 12-05-2007 09:32 »

 
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Originally posted by Eyedol7513:
OK, I have a question.  In "Jurassic Bark", Seymour dies while laying down on the street.  Yet, in "Bender's Big Score" he is shown alive and well right before the explosion fossilizes him.  What's up with this apparent lack of continuity?  Basically, when is his "official" death?

BBS does not change anything about Seymour's date of death, since Fry said in Jurassic Bark that Seymour must have lived on for another 12 years after he "disappeared" in 2000.

Sure, he did not wait in vain for Fry as the closing montage of Jurassic Bark had implied, but that's a different story.   wink
adt2695
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« Reply #319 on: 03-06-2009 00:10 »

I agree, I was pissed that he didn't just keep the dog into the future with him, I mean if the Professor can have a sun and Leela can have a pet, then fry can have a dog.
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