Jurassic Bark: Seymour was a dumb dog

[Reply #160 on:]

           

Originally posted by elf:
I cried at the end when I first saw it, and I cried over and over and over again because Seymour is a loyal dog, dammit! It's because of that song and Seymour die slowly through it!
   If Seymour is a stupid dog, then WHY would he care so much about Fry? Why would he look for him? Why would he follow Fry everywhere he goes?
  I say to all who are not moved by the end, please watch that episode again and again until you are moved.

This is what I said from the get go

           

People may not like what I have to say, but I'm curious.  Why do people say they cry at the end of the Jurassic Bark?  I thought the episode was touching, not as touching as The Luck of the Fryrish and others.  But when I saw the last scene, I was like, "That dog waited years for Fry to come back?  That dog is stupid."

I could believe Seymour in waiting, days, weeks, and even months (six months the most) but years?  Come on now. 

Dogs have a habit of forgeting their masters when the masters leave for a long period of time.  My friend left for Europe last summer and when he came back, his dog barked at him as if he were a stranger and my friend's had that dog for years.  Seymour being a dog, would have ultimately forgot about Fry and bonded with somebody else.  It doesn't matter how big a bond he and Fry had, being a dog he should've eventually forgot about Fry. 

If you like Jurassic Bark and felt that the last scene was very touching, I can respect that and never hold that against you.  I felt the episode was very touching overall, however, I didn't think that last scene was as touching as other touching moments on Futurama.

And throughout this thread I've also said:

         

I just saw Jurassic Bark and I still believe in my original opinion of Seymour. He was a dumb dog. One point made on this thread was that Seymour knew that Fry was frozen at Cryogenics and made that scene of Seymour waiting for Fry meaningless.  Why is he waiting for Fry, if he knows where he is?  Frozen at the Cryo-genics lab.  If they had cut that scene of Fry's parents dragging Seymour away from Fry's tube, then we could say that he didn't know where Fry was period and would had convinced me a little more that he would've waited that long for Fry.


Imagine in LOTF if Fry knew he had a nephew, named after him, before he dug up the grave and read what was on the tombstone.  It would not be as touching as it is right now.  Jurassic Park was not that well written as LOTF, with that mistake of Seymour seeing Fry frozen "before" he's waiting for him at Panucci's.

One final note, I've seen that episode many times and I still think Seymour was dumb for what he did.

         

Originally posted by Shadowstar:
Every time I turn around, this thread keeps getting unearthed! Can we drop this subject already?
         

Originally posted by fryfanSpyOpera:
I may be a cold hearted bastard, but Seymour is still a dumb dog. Though, I did get teary, from laughing at the final scene and therefore that statement may not apply to me.

Wow. You have no soul.
Seymour had no one else in his life who loved him like Fry. So, he just waited and waited for him to come back. That's what dogs do. They wait for their masters, granted they've been kind and loving to them like Fry. I found the ending very touching, but I guess I can't change one's opinion. Different opinions make the world go 'round.

Let me just say I do have a soul, and it thinks Seymour was dumb for waiting for Fry like that.  I've said there were more touching episodes than Jurassic Bark.

       

Luck of the Fryrish, was sad and touching. (Tear in my eye.)

Leela's Homeworld- Leela finally meeting her parents, that was touching. (Tear in my eye and I clapped.)

TDHAIPT, the last scene, that was touching. (tear in my eye and I clapped.)

TKOS- Very touching, but sad ending.

Jurassic Bark's last scene that was pathetic and silly.  (Just a snicker of "how pathetic that was".)

Don't get me wrong, I thought Jurassic Bark was good, overall. I liked it.  I felt it was sad that Fry refused to have the dog cloned. It was just the ending that was corny.  Jurassic Bark was better than that Simpson episode that won the Emmy.  I think that Simpson's episode robbed Jurassic Bark.

Of course, I felt that Seymour and Jurassic Bark let Futurama down when it didn't win the emmy.


Seymour waiting for Fry all that time reminds me of those cartoons were a character waits for something that won't happen and they cut to a [insert big number] years credit and they show the character old.  Those situations make me laugh and the ending scene in Jurassic Bark was just like of those situations.

[Reply #161 on:]

 

Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
 

Originally posted by elf:
I cried at the end when I first saw it, and I cried over and over and over again because Seymour is a loyal dog, dammit! It's because of that song and Seymour die slowly through it!
If Seymour is a stupid dog, then WHY would he care so much about Fry? Why would he look for him? Why would he follow Fry everywhere he goes?
I say to all who are not moved by the end, please watch that episode again and again until you are moved.

This is what I said from the get go

No it isn't. From the get go you said:
 

Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Why do people say they cry at the end of the Jurassic Bark? I thought the episode was touching, not as touching as The Luck of the Fryrish and others. But when I saw the last scene, I was like, "That dog waited years for Fry to come back? That dog is stupid."

I could believe Seymour in waiting, days, weeks, and even months (six months the most) but years? Come on now.

That's totally opposite.

[Reply #162 on:]

There's only one real reason why Seymour waited day after day for Fry: because Fry saved his life.

[Reply #163 on:]

And that he was a loyal and loving dog.

[Reply #164 on:]

And that he was a fuck you it's a god damn cartoon dog. I've said this before and I'll say it again. No dog would wait for 12 years for one person to come back. No dog would wait 12 days for its owner to come back. If a dog waited 12 years in front of the same pizza place, it would be only a matter of time before someone ran it over(the dog's a little puny) with their bike anyway.

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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
No dog would wait for 12 years for one person to come back.

Maybe not for 12 years, but how about ten?

Seymour may not have been a typical dog, but this sort of thing has happened in real life.

[Reply #166 on:]

I agree with David A, It definetly has happened, do a google search, youll probably find something like that. Some dogs can be extremely loyal, and their the ones that will stick around.

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I remember when we went to Tennesse, the first day, I saw a dog that was just sitting on the sidewalk, and the next year, when we came back, that same dog was still there, and then the year after that, the dog was very sick, but apparently, the owner hadn't shown up, but a few minutes later, I saw the owner come by to pick up the dog, and the dog wouldn't stop barking. True story.

[Reply #168 on:]

Maybe that dog was waiting for its owner to get off work....

but still, dogs will wait for their masters. I think this is the first time I've disagreed with you Lampy...

[Reply #169 on:]

Did anyone hear about the girl who met her dog at the bus stop everyday after school?
Its kind of old but still worth telling...

Ok, there was this girl who met her dog at the bus stop everyday after school. One day, she was hit by a car, and she was killed. Every day after that, the dog still came to the bus stop to see if the girl came.

Its pretty much the same sort of thing as Fry and Seymour.

Also, i said it before, and ill say it again, seymour was a loving and caring dog.

[Reply #170 on:]

I think Jurassic Bark is the best episode ever, I think fryfanSpyOrama you have not had a true pet then, to think Seymour is dumb. I can give u a ton of stories where an animal waited like he did. I think the reason you think this is you never had a dog who was loyal to you.

[Reply #171 on:]

I'm with you SheWolf! And welcome to PEEL. You'll like it here

[Reply #172 on:]

I bet I will

[Reply #173 on:]

You will. Trust me. Now back to the matter...I still don't see what's wrong with having a dog that cares about you in this sorta way.

[Reply #174 on:]

i totally agree with the thread name. the episode was annoying.

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Originally posted by SheWolf:
I think Jurassic Bark is the best episode ever, I think fryfanSpyOrama you have not had a true pet then, to think Seymour is dumb. I can give u a ton of stories where an animal waited like he did. I think the reason you think this is you never had a dog who was loyal to you.

No, I just think what Seymour did was just dumb.  I understand loyality, but Seymour knew where Fry was frozen and didn't go back to get him.  Sounds really dumb.

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First, dogs are dumb, then are dumb for not breaking into a research lab to rescue their frozen friends.

Realistic dog..WTF, this is a cartoon for crying out loud...however, having served in the military, I, myself have been away from the family dog for over a year and upon my return the family dog seemed to have tears in her eyes when I returned from overseas. 

Get a life people...and I mean; to those who were not moved, let those that were (such as myself) hate/love that episode...and, for those who are arguing whether or not the dog was realistic...whats your argument?  The song was perfect...who here remembers that song when it hit the silver screen.  NOBODY!  Although, through the magic of the internet (you can probably download it).

I was in shock when the credits rolled.  I wondered what sicko would end a comedic, adult oriented cartoon with such travisty toward emotion; albeit human/canine, and I never wanted to watch Futurama again but now I want to own the episode to enlighten even myself to the fact that we all too often forget without remorse.  I told my wife about the episode the next day and she grew teary eyed.  Show some compasion instead of ignorance! 

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When I started this thread, I said that Seymour waiting for Fry all those years was dumb.  It reminded me of those other cartoons where a character waits for something and years later they are old with long beards and you laugh at how pathetic they are.  If they tired to make that scene funny, they failed.  LOTF, is more touching than Jurassic Bark.

I didn't like the fact that this episode was chosen for the 2003 emmys.  It didn't win, what a surprise.  I would've gone with The Why In Fry, instead. 

I'm disappointed that The Sting and TDHAIPT didn't win this year by the way, but I still like those episodes, because they were more touching than Jurassic Bark.

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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Seymour knew where Fry was frozen and didn't go back to get him.  Sounds really dumb.

yep. He knew Fry was in trouble and if Seymour was smart enough to realize that and to learn "Walking on Sunshine" he should have been smart enough to get someone other than Fry's parents to help Fry when they didn't do it the first time.

[Reply #179 on:]

Maybe he did, and they just wouldnt listen. So he gave up on that and waited instead. How could Seymour rescue Fry in the cryogenics lab anyway? You saw how the scientist payed no attention to him barking.

[Reply #180 on:]

If Seymour brought the Frys to the Cryogenics lab he could have brought anyone else. He saw Mr. Pannuchi every day as he came and left work. Mr. Pannuchi would have saved Fry had Seymour brought him there.

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Check out this dumb thread on rottentomnatoes where people "cry" over Jurassic Bark


 ]http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=360629[/url] 

"did anyone else cry during the futurama episode jurrasic bark"

What a bunch of degenerate, basement dwelling virgins.           

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Originally posted by Trooper-rat:
First, dogs are dumb, then are dumb for not breaking into a research lab to rescue their frozen friends.

Realistic dog..WTF, this is a cartoon for crying out loud...however, having served in the military, I, myself have been away from the family dog for over a year and upon my return the family dog seemed to have tears in her eyes when I returned from overseas. 
 

True, it is only a cartoon, but remember what Matt Groaning said..."Even though it is a cartoon, you can still be moved by it."
   Also, some, but not all dogs are dumb. Seymour wasn't one of the dumb ones. 

 

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Originally posted by YourMomLicks:
Check out this dumb thread on rottentomnatoes where people "cry" over Jurassic Bark


 ]http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=360629[/URL] 

"did anyone else cry during the futurama episode jurrasic bark"

What a bunch of degenerate, basement dwelling virgins.             

you seem to have a problem with sexuality. childhood trauma? or are you just a pale fat geek who will never get laid?

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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
When I started this thread, I said that Seymour waiting for Fry all those years was dumb.

Which you've made very clear...
 

It reminded me of those other cartoons where a character waits for something and years later they are old with long beards and you laugh at how pathetic they are.

 
But they don't die.
 

If they tired to make that scene funny...

They didn't.
 

...they failed. LOTF, is more is more touching than Jurassic Bark

I didn't like the fact that this episode was chosen for the 2003 emmys.  It didn't win, what a surprise.  I would've gone with The Why In Fry, instead.

 
TWOF was an awesome episode for us fanatics, but do you really think that a casual viewer would like it? If you hadn't seen all the episodes it continued from, it'd be as confusing as hell.
 

I'm disappointed that The Sting and TDHAIPT didn't win this year by the way, but I still like those episodes, because they were more touching than Jurassic Bark.

Well, "Jurassic Bark" is my favorite episode, so I disagree, but I do agree that DHAIP was emotional, moving, and all-around excellent.

But... "The Sting"? That's the worst episode ever.

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My god does everyone have to be so anal about the deatails? yea maybe a real dog wouldn't have waited 10 years, but this isnt the real world its futurama. I feel sorry for those that just cant just let themseleves get into the story and not ask questions or make complaints with every little detail. This is sci fi and fantasy. The message of friendship is there it doesnt matter if its the most realistic peice of tv you've ever watched. If you want the real world go watch the news or survivor or something.

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I'm up for the whole sci-fi and fantasy thing.  All I'm saying is that there are more touching moments in Futurama than Seymour waiting for Fry all that time.

To me that was the same as I, Roomate where Bender cuts off his antenna so he could be with Fry.  That too was a sign of friendship, but I thought it was more funny than touching, just like Jurassic Bark's ending seemed more funny than touching.

[Reply #187 on:]

Well all I can say I don't understand your sense of humor in the least. I didnt really see anything that could be construed (sp) as  a joke.

[Reply #188 on:]

 

Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
I'm up for the whole sci-fi and fantasy thing.  All I'm saying is that there are more touching moments in Futurama than Seymour waiting for Fry all that time.

To me that was the same as I, Roomate where Bender cuts off his antenna so he could be with Fry.  That too was a sign of friendship, but I thought it was more funny than touching, just like Jurassic Bark's ending seemed more funny than touching.

That wasn't funny. That was sad. Now Zoidberg and the thought he's desperatly poor, now THAT'S funny!

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It's the thread that just never dies! NEVER!! It keeps getting resurrected. For God's sake, we've got to stop the carnage!
 

Originally posted by leelaholic: But... "The Sting"? That's the worst episode ever.

Leelaholic, I have more respect for you now.

[Reply #190 on:]

Seymour WAS special.And Fry was the idiot not to bring Seymour back to life.I woul bring my dead dog bach to life if I could.

[Reply #191 on:]

I would too...at least...if I HAD a dog...but Seymour is not dumb. Fry is not dumb. The one that is dumb...is Mr. Zapp Brannigan!

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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
It's the thread that just never dies! NEVER!! It keeps getting resurrected. For God's sake, we've got to stop the carnage!
   

Originally posted by leelaholic: But... "The Sting"? That's the worst episode ever.

Leelaholic, I have more respect for you now.

If you don't like The Sting, then you must not like Fry and Leela's relationship.  That was a good Fry/Leela episode. 

Most people agree: http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/1-001880/


Also, The Sting was more touching and deserved the emmy.

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I just saw The Sting on CN, and I still get a that feeling I get when something touching airs on TV, that I like.  It isn't crying, but the feeling still is good.

Sorry for the double post, I made a mistake.

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Whoa, it's like I'm seeing double.  Either FFSO posted in the wrong thread, nay, the wrong Forum or those screwdrivers are starting to kick in.

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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
   If you don't like The Sting, then you must not like Fry and Leela's relationship.  That was a good Fry/Leela episode. 

I call  John Panozzi on that one!

And to forestall the question: A John Panozzi is my term for a conclusion drawn on faulty logic in the vein of "You're against war? The you must be a nazi because we went to war with them."

People can have perfectly valid reasons to dislike "The Sting", without disliking Fry/Leela. They will obviously be wrong, but that's their right oo.

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All I'm saying is The Sting offers the perfect sign of Fry and Leela potential love for each other.  It sets up for TDHAIPT. Still, many people say they don't like The Sting.

[Reply #197 on:]

Parasites Lost is more like a setup to TDHAIPT.

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Originally posted by ShortRoundMcfly:
Parasites Lost is more like a setup to TDHAIPT.

And Hell Is Other Robots.  And (in my opinion especially) Time Keeps on Slippin'.  And EVERY shippy moment in the series, from SP3K on.

Wait, why am I responding to this?  It's in the wrong thread, FFSO just made a mistake posting a 'The Sting' opinion in this thread last night.  Unless I missed something and this became a general discussion on emotion in the series and FFSO copy-pasted his response from The Sting review thread intentionally.

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Off-topic, but just to clarify my main point, I enjoy the Fry-Leela moments in most episodes, but "The Sting" was just that for 22 minutes, and I can't take that.