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Birdbot

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« on: 01-22-2004 22:00 »

In Hell Is Other Robots Bender does a whole prayer in Binary, and in The Honking Bender can read the Binary on ther wall.

But in Godfellas, he seems to know hardly any Binary.

Also, wouldn't he be built on Binary?

How do you explain that?  confused
El Zilcho

Professor
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« Reply #1 on: 01-22-2004 22:08 »

My random guesses based on absolutely nothing:

HIOR: He memorized the prayer from the church with his massive memory banks.

The Honking: He can read binary well, but he can't speak it.

Shouldn't he know binary if he was built on it? Yes. Yes he should.

...Also, a wizard did it.
David A

Urban Legend
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« Reply #2 on: 01-22-2004 22:32 »

In "HIOR" Bender is quoting the prophet Jerimatic.  He memorized the quote.  That doesn't necessarily mean he understood binary.

In "The Honking" the binary on the wall is a simple number.  Bender can probably recognize simple binary numbers even if he can't speak binary.  A lot of people can recognize Roman numerals, but that doesn't mean that they can speak Latin.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
winna

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« Reply #3 on: 01-22-2004 23:27 »

What does that number in the honking stand for anyways?  I assumed it was 666 or Satan or something like that.....
David A

Urban Legend
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« Reply #4 on: 01-22-2004 23:48 »

Yeah, the first thing.
winna

Avatar Czar
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« Reply #5 on: 01-23-2004 00:25 »

ok thanks...  Everything has become clear....
David A

Urban Legend
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« Reply #6 on: 01-23-2004 00:59 »

It was just gibberish on the wall, but in the mirror, it was 666.
Pikka Bird

Space Pope
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« Reply #7 on: 01-24-2004 19:35 »

They could have made a reference to The Shining if they wanted to. You know, with redrum and all.

About Bender's binary prowess: Maybe he just doesn't have an ASCII table installed. I mean- He could read the simple value of the binary, but doesn't know too well which value represents which symbol... does that make sense? Yes it does.
Mello-Yellow

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« Reply #8 on: 01-24-2004 19:40 »

Speaking of Honking...

When Bender screams "The eyes on this portrait are following me!", the portrait in question is labeled "Commodore LXIV"

That's Commodor 64.
squidORlobster

Bending Unit
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« Reply #9 on: 01-24-2004 20:17 »

@Pikkabird But binary is very different though right? Redrum would be very long and it might not actually say murder when backwards.

@mello-yellow They said that on the commentary. :P
hobojobo

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« Reply #10 on: 01-24-2004 23:46 »

I don't get how to read the binary in The Honking. The number of digits isn't a multiple of eight, so it isn't in ASCII(sorry if that didn't make sense) anyway, how do you read it?
John C
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« Reply #11 on: 01-25-2004 00:01 »

The easy answer: You go here.

Someone else can tell you the non-easy answer.  tongue
hobojobo

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« Reply #12 on: 01-25-2004 00:56 »

but I thought that ASCII characters only had 8 digit binary counterparts. The binary for 666 is 001101100011011000110110, not whatever was in the mirror.
sci_bot

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« Reply #13 on: 01-25-2004 01:28 »
« Last Edit on: 01-25-2004 01:28 »

Yup, what you have there is binary for the ASCII verison of "666".

When you convert the binary in the mirror to a "base 10" number you get 666.
 
You're just trying to make t harder for yourself

--edited for clarity
David A

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« Reply #14 on: 01-25-2004 11:16 »

 
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
They could have made a reference to The Shining if they wanted to. You know, with redrum and all.

It pretty much was a reference to The Shining.  There was writing on the wall in blood that could be read in the mirror.  They changed what was written, but otherwise it was just like The Shining.

 
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About Bender's binary prowess: Maybe he just doesn't have an ASCII table installed. I mean- He could read the simple value of the binary, but doesn't know too well which value represents which symbol... does that make sense? Yes it does.

Works for me.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
futuramamama

Bending Unit
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« Reply #15 on: 01-25-2004 15:35 »

He can ask for the way to the bathroom.
Did he understand the nightmare he had in some episode, where he thought he saw a two?
SomeOne

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« Reply #16 on: 01-25-2004 16:46 »

His nightmare was just ones and zeroes dotted around the place in no particular order.

As dreams are usually things that you think a lot about, and bender runs on binary, ones and zeroes seem a normal thing to dream about for a robot.
Pikka Bird

Space Pope
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« Reply #17 on: 01-26-2004 11:28 »

 
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@Pikkabird But binary is very different though right? Redrum would be very long and it might not actually say murder when backwards.
It would have to be written backwards. Both the individual ASCII value AND the order of them- but it probably would take a while to say and people would get bored, making the joke crash horribly.

And Bender did see a '2' in the dream- there is a framegrab showing it somewhere. It's like seeing some kind of monster in a nightmare, because they don't really exist. So in a world of '0's and '1's, a '2' is a scary abomination , just like a freaky ravenous monster is a rare (and scary) sight in a world of trees, dirt, animals and their stuff.
Birdbot

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« Reply #18 on: 01-26-2004 20:13 »

As I've mentioned in another thread, I've got a framegrab of the two here. smile
Uncle Whippity

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« Reply #19 on: 01-27-2004 07:53 »

Come on, as Fry said 'There's no such thing as 2'.

Stop scaring people.
SixByNine
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« Reply #20 on: 01-28-2004 06:15 »

People, I think you may be missing an important point. Binary is not a language but a numbering system (Like decimal, or hex). However supose that some (rebelious maybe) robots made a language called 'Binary' that is perhaps based on the base2 numbering system but is a fully formed language (i.e. not just binary-ASCII conversion). This would mean that Bender could read base 2 binary, but may not be fluent in this 'Binary' language
Pikka Bird

Space Pope
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« Reply #21 on: 01-28-2004 18:06 »

That makes sense, and I agree- people should not believe that binary is a "language" as such. A mere way of writing numbers. That's all.
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #22 on: 01-29-2004 10:17 »

Renember that for example a standard PC and a Nintendo NES 8 bits both use binary code but they dont understood each other machine runing code.. they need an emulator.
Bender`s case could be something similar.
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