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Mouse On Venus

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« on: 01-22-2004 17:20 »

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but in I Dated A Robot, when they go to see the edge of the Universe, none of them are wearing space suits. Is there oxygen in space at the edge or something?  cool

 Has anyone spotted any other parts where characters shouldn't be breathing but are? I would've thought Chapek 9 to have been low on oxygen, although it might've had a few trees.
Teral

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« Reply #1 on: 01-22-2004 17:27 »

There's probably some kind of forcefield around the edge and the parking lot containing a small pocket of pressurised air. It's a tourist attraction afterall.

Since Fry got royal jelly in his underpants in "The Sting" his spacesuit must've opened somehow. Yet he seems fine.

Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #2 on: 01-22-2004 17:40 »

I just would've expected there to be some sort of dome around the tourist spot, similarly to Orbiting Meadows.
Teral

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« Reply #3 on: 01-22-2004 17:50 »

That could work for the air too. Maybe a dome is too dangerous with all the free-flying meteorites and asteroids. If even a pea sized asteroid were to whiz through the dome it would...

::gets hit by tiny asteroid::

Ow! Anyway, a forcefield would just let the asteroid fly through and then close behind it. A combination of the two would be even better though.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #4 on: 01-24-2004 06:55 »

If there was a forcefield, and even if it was invisible, surely we'd see some sort of indication of it existing as an object passes through it. For example, the Planet Express Ship, but there wasn't any indication of anything...

feralHuman

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« Reply #5 on: 01-24-2004 08:51 »

wait, if the 'force-field' was invisible in the first place, should we be able to see it even when an object passed through it?

there has to be some sort of artificial gravity generator on the platform too, perhaps that's what's sustaining an atmosphere. like on earth, mass gravity holding down the atmosphere.
Teral

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« Reply #6 on: 01-24-2004 08:58 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
If there was a forcefield, and even if it was invisible, surely we'd see some sort of indication of it existing as an object passes through it. For example, the Planet Express Ship, but there wasn't any indication of anything...


That really depends on the the size of the forcefield, maybe they already passed before we get a shot of the PE ship, and the technology. I'm sure by 3001 technology exist to make forcefields you'll never notice, even when something pass through them.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #7 on: 01-24-2004 09:57 »

They'd have to make the forcefield in such a way that it wouldn't let molecules of N and O (and those other elements in "air" ) pass through. After all, the ship and the people are made of molecules, and so is the air. Wouldn't it make more sense with feralHuman's thoery of artificial gravity to keep the air in place, and preventing the guys from drifting off?
Teral

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« Reply #8 on: 01-24-2004 10:32 »

Air molecules are also much lighter than people and spaceships, so a weak catch-all forcefield could've done the trick.
John C
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« Reply #9 on: 01-24-2004 10:38 »

I think in "Amazon Women", the windows on the space restaraunt open and close, but it doesn't seem to have any effect on the people inside.
EspanolBot

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« Reply #10 on: 01-24-2004 10:53 »

 They are all mutants! Like in the Fifth Element where they have eyes and teeth that glow in UV light.
feralHuman

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« Reply #11 on: 01-24-2004 10:57 »

good point JohnC...

in one of the new gen trek movies i think, kirk disappears and the rest stare out through a hole in the hull of the enterprise, but they're still breathing coz of the force field round the ship or something keeping the air in... that may work.

but the artificial gravity could do too, keeping the crew,ship and air in one place. some ultra high density stuff (super dark matter or a mini black hole) could supply the mass required. but they'll have to adjust the amount just right to match earth gravity.
Mercapto

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« Reply #12 on: 01-24-2004 11:13 »

Artificial gravity wouldn't work.

If it was only in one location, it still wouldn't prevent the air from slowly spreading to the rest of the moon where it could then escape into space. Also that huge amount of mass in one place can't be good for the moon's rotation. Furthermore, a tiny center of gravity like dark matter would cause noticeable variations in the gravity depending on how close you are to the dark matter.
nagrub

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« Reply #13 on: 01-24-2004 14:03 »

 
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Originally posted by EspanolBot:
 They are all mutants! Like in the Fifth Element where they have eyes and teeth that glow in UV light.

eyes and teeth do glow in uv light, because they are white. fool. thats why you could see the dandruff on his shoulder, and thus the gag. Damn they could thave taken that gag so far.
hobojobo

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« Reply #14 on: 01-25-2004 00:02 »

In Put Your Head on my Shoulder, Zoidberg, Fry, and Leela are all outside on the surface of europa, but seem to be fine.
VoVat

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« Reply #15 on: 01-25-2004 00:40 »

The characters don't have any problem walking around on Neptune or Pluto without spacesuits, either.  That's not to mention that Neptune is apparently solid in Futurama, and Pluto has daylight.  There must have been some significant terraforming going on.  On the other hand, the Moon seems to be pretty much the same as it is today, aside from Luna Park, which is enclosed in a dome.
SamuelXDiamond

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« Reply #16 on: 01-25-2004 08:31 »
« Last Edit on: 01-25-2004 08:31 »

   
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
Has anyone spotted any other parts where characters shouldn't be breathing but are?

What about Fry inside the Infosphere? It opens up to allow the self-scanning, letting Fry through, but still hasn't completed the task when he crashes into the Big Brain. There would be no point in generating oxygen inside the infosphere, as the brains can fly through space unhampered. And, if they had a forcefield to keep to oxygen in (for whatever reason), surely they could've made it so that Fry couldn't get through as well?
Rogerbot3000

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« Reply #17 on: 01-25-2004 08:58 »

I think the charecters other than Bender and the Robots can't survive on the moon or any other planet without a force field because in Episode 2, the farmer took off his helmet and nearly suffocated and both Fry and Leela needed oxygen to survive and since Leela's an Alien/Mutant that means aliens needs some sort of oxygen too.
futuramamama

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« Reply #18 on: 01-25-2004 15:41 »

All organic life must have oxygen to survive, doesn't it?
Mercapto

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« Reply #19 on: 01-25-2004 16:04 »

Yes, either in the form of O2 or CO2.
Ozor Mox

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« Reply #20 on: 01-25-2004 17:24 »

Why are people arguing about the characters not having access to oxygen in space in a scene that shows something is mindboggling as the edge of the universe! Madness!   roll eyes
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #21 on: 01-25-2004 17:47 »

What are you even doing in this thread?  tongue
Gorky

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« Reply #22 on: 02-29-2004 21:46 »

As it was stated on the commentary for "Brannigan, Begin Again", "In science-fiction, all planets [or, in this case, all edges of universes] have oxygen."
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #23 on: 03-01-2004 09:58 »
« Last Edit on: 03-01-2004 09:58 »

 
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Originally posted by Gorky:
As it was stated on the commentary for "Brannigan, Begin Again", "In science-fiction, all planets [or, in this case, all edges of universes] have oxygen."

As mentioned earlier on, all organic life needs oxygen, either in its pure state or as carbon dioxide, so all life-supporting planets would have an atmosphere containing oxygen. Even if there were aliens that breathed chlorine (it's sci-fi, so why not?), they would probably stick to their own solar systems, like a small-minded citizen of the temperate climes who won't go to Africa because it's too hot, or Russia because it's too cold. They could visit, if they simply wore shorts/a coat/a chlorine tank, but they can't be bothered.

Alternatively, all civilised lifeforms could have agreed to create atmospheres on their planets and the planets surrounding them capable of supporting all different forms of life; a biological lingua franca. This would increase the possibilities of trade and diplomacy between the planets of the Universe, especially the members of DOOP. Warlike races would support this idea as it would make it easier to invade other planets. Everybody wins.

Oh sure, blame the wizards...
Space Wasp

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« Reply #24 on: 03-03-2004 16:28 »

In Bender Gets Made Bender rolls down a window of the PE ship and 'starts shooting'. Ofcourse Bender doesn't need oxygen but  shouldn't that create a massive depressurization, as seen in Kif Gets Knocked Up A Knotch?
El Scorcho

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« Reply #25 on: 03-03-2004 16:32 »

Maybe there is already a vacume inside the car, but if that were the case, how would we hear him speak?
Young_and_Angry

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« Reply #26 on: 03-03-2004 16:40 »

 
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Originally posted by VoVat:
The characters don't have any problem walking around on Neptune or Pluto without spacesuits, either.  That's not to mention that Neptune is apparently solid in Futurama, and Pluto has daylight.  There must have been some significant terraforming going on.  On the other hand, the Moon seems to be pretty much the same as it is today, aside from Luna Park, which is enclosed in a dome.
Easy. over the centeries the atmoshperes could have evolved to be livable. Also, this is a long shot, but still a theory. There could be another solar system outside of this one, where pluto is much closer to the other star. Ow. head hurts from thinking of complex theorys.

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Young_and_Angry

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« Reply #27 on: 03-03-2004 16:42 »

 
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Originally posted by Ozor Mox:
Why are people arguing about the characters not having access to oxygen in space in a scene that shows something is mindboggling as the edge of the universe! Madness!    roll eyes
  CUZ IT'S FUN!!!

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David A

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« Reply #28 on: 03-03-2004 18:00 »
« Last Edit on: 03-03-2004 18:00 »

   
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Originally posted by VoVat:
The characters don't have any problem walking around on Neptune or Pluto without spacesuits, either.  That's not to mention that Neptune is apparently solid in Futurama, and Pluto has daylight.  There must have been some significant terraforming going on.  On the other hand, the Moon seems to be pretty much the same as it is today, aside from Luna Park, which is enclosed in a dome.

Another interesting thing is that other than the moon, all of the planets seem to have gravity roughly equal to earth's (except for that one planet with the heavy gravity, in "Brannigan Begin Again" ).
Yinger36

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« Reply #29 on: 03-03-2004 18:46 »
« Last Edit on: 03-03-2004 18:46 »

It's a Sci-Fi cartoon..it doesnt have to make sence.    cool
But then again.  There are nerds like us that will make a big deal of it   roll eyes
David A

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« Reply #30 on: 03-03-2004 18:57 »

 
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Originally posted by Yinger36:
It's a Sci-Fi cartoon..it doesnt have to make sence.     cool

Yeah, but the weird thing is that the moon did make sense.
Teral

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« Reply #31 on: 03-03-2004 19:09 »

Yeah, especially the crocodilles.
winna

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« Reply #32 on: 03-03-2004 19:24 »

Is that sarcasm I detect?

Of course there are crocodiles on the moon...  I thought everyone knew that.  confused
David A

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« Reply #33 on: 03-03-2004 19:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Yeah, especially the crocodilles.

Those crocodiles were wearing space helmets, and they were able to jump higher than they would be able to in earth's gravity.

My point was that the moon lacked an atmosphere, and had lower gravity than the earth.  By contrast, Mars, Mercury, Europa, Pluto, and Neptune all had breathable atmospheres and earthlike gravity.

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ooy

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« Reply #34 on: 03-03-2004 22:14 »

or mayby it was an alligator!
Unknown

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« Reply #35 on: 03-04-2004 00:21 »

And why exactly is Neptune solid?
Grim

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« Reply #36 on: 03-04-2004 02:09 »
« Last Edit on: 03-04-2004 02:09 »

Obviously the Friendly Robot Company had thought out the whole Santa Clause (except the programming flaw) so prehaps the landed some sort of platform that would float on the Neptunian atmosphere, made an atmosphere in a force field similar to the edge of the universe and with in that built the toy works and the death fortress?

Then again it is a cartoon, also the raises the questions of where the neptunians evolved from
Ranadok

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« Reply #37 on: 03-04-2004 02:34 »
« Last Edit on: 03-04-2004 02:34 »

The neptunians could be "colonists" brought in to help out the Robot Santa (selected/engineered to be short). They then became more well known then the actual species they came from, so all people of that species/things from that culture are called Neptunian. Simple.

Edit: on the floating platform, that is.
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #38 on: 03-04-2004 03:27 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
My point was that the moon lacked an atmosphere, and had lower gravity than the earth. 

If there was no atmosphere, then wouldn't the pressure difference make the crocodiles explode, as well as the farmer when he takes off his helmet and jumps on it?

Maybe atmospheric pollution was belched out of Lunar Park, creating an atmosphere thick enough to stop people exploding, but not capable of supporting life.

Oh sure, blame the wizards...
Yinger36

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« Reply #39 on: 03-04-2004 04:27 »

Maybe it was the fact that it was the moon.  I mean...c mon..ya cant mess with the moon  wink
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