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EspanolBot

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« on: 01-19-2004 07:36 »

 I have a handy solution to all the problems related to Fry's physicalityness i.e. his ability to drink a hundred cups of coffe without dying, his "brain thing", his apparent ability to have limbs removed without feeling pain.
 They are a result of his inbreeding! There i think i have solved i lot of logic flaws on this part of the messageboard.
(And then suddenly everyone started yelling at him.)  smile
Professie

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« Reply #1 on: 01-19-2004 11:21 »

Interesting theory.
Bushmeister

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« Reply #2 on: 01-19-2004 12:40 »

A nice explanation there EspanolBot, tricky to disprove as there are about zero men in the world who are their own grandfathers  tongue
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #3 on: 01-19-2004 13:10 »

doesnt really make sence to me. i would think the second the atomic blast ripped enis apart that fry would seice to exist instantly, and even if he did reproduce with his grandmother, woudlnt have have looked very different than from what he did with his grandfathers genes.
Teral

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« Reply #4 on: 01-19-2004 13:14 »

The explanation is: Fry always was his own grandfather, Enos was never, at any point in his  bloodline.

 
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 his "brain thing"

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what they said in "The Why Of Fry".
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #5 on: 01-19-2004 15:59 »

alright alright, but then how does he look exactly the same as himself..doesnt make sence to me, or maybe im just not getting it.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #6 on: 01-19-2004 16:42 »

Of course you're not getting it...
And now for the yelling at Esp.Bot: Inbreeding doesn't turn your stomach and other entrails into a bag of holding, does it? 100 cups of coffee could not be contained within a person, but it has no significance. (Though I suppose Teral might come up with some perfectly plausible theory)
David A

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« Reply #7 on: 01-19-2004 16:57 »

 
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Originally posted by Tikka Bird:
Inbreeding doesn't turn your stomach and other entrails into a bag of holding, does it?

No, but being a Nibblonian apparently does.   wink

 
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100 cups of coffee could not be contained within a person, but it has no significance.

I don't think that that's what he meant.  I think that he was implying that drinking 100 cups of coffee in a 24 hour period would kill a person due to the overdose of caffene.  That's nonsense of course.  Everyone knows that drinking 100 cups of coffee in a 24 hour period grants you super speed.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
aslate

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« Reply #8 on: 01-19-2004 17:06 »

Anyway, Coffee in the future may be weaker then it is now, thus he can drink 100 cups of coffee and just end up a shaking wreck (with super-speed abilities).
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #9 on: 01-19-2004 17:15 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
Everyone knows that drinking 100 cups of coffee in a 24 hour period grants you super speed.

Of course it does. That's why I assumed he meant the other thing.
And the Nibblonians have dark matter refineries in their bowels. you know, 1 pound weighs 1000 pounds. That doesn't explain the weight of the individual Nibblonean though...
David A

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« Reply #10 on: 01-19-2004 17:23 »

Perhaps Nibblonians have some sort of personal control over gravity.  They can't actually affect mass, but they could reduce their weights by reducing the pull of gravity on themselves.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #11 on: 01-19-2004 17:35 »

Yes! That is it! And scientifically... it holds up. Just get Stephen Hawking to do the math- he can make anything add up using denial of facts, a thick skull and with the aid of the "ooohh, look at the retarded cripple! He's trying to talk. Let's support him to make him feel good"-sympathy. Friggin moron, that Hawking.
David A

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« Reply #12 on: 01-19-2004 17:39 »

What's with all the hate for Professor Hawking?  Did he run over your puppy with his wheelchair or something?

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #13 on: 01-19-2004 17:55 »

No, but he begs me to send him nude pics of myself in exchange for a time machine he's making. (get that reference and be applauded).
Actually, I just hate his ignorance and reluctance to acknowledge anything but Einstein's theories. We all know that Einstein's theories were riddled with errors. Niels Bohr on the other hand, dat's me boy! He won the 1922 Nobel Prize in physics for his research and theory of atomic structure.
But Hawking just keeps spewing forth material solely based on Einstein's basic work, and when anyone tells him that everyone knows that there are many cases where Einstein's laws have been broken, he just switches off his electro-ears and turns up his speaker.
Zeep

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« Reply #14 on: 01-20-2004 01:42 »
« Last Edit on: 01-20-2004 01:42 »

ALP- to clear this up for you: Fry was always his grandfather. it was his destiny, if you will. he was destined to go to the year 3000 and then to 1947 and become his grandfather.
in a more complicated way of saying it: fry exists in 3 time periods. he existed for a short period of time in 1947, during which he impregnated a woman. his genes were passed on to a son, and then to his son's son, who was him. then he existed from when he was born (1980 or so?) to about 3001, at which point he went back in time to impregnate mildred (his grandmother). then he existed from a few days after then until he dies, which hasn't happened yet in the series.

hmmm..... this seemed less confusing before i tried to explain it.
if anyone wants, i've got one more theory about how the whole time-travel thing works, but i won't post that unless someone asks me to, since this one was so long anyways.

one other thing: everyone thinks his grandfather was enos because mildred never found out fry's name, so she lied and credited enos, her most recent boyfriend. with doing "the nasty"
DogDoo8

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« Reply #15 on: 01-20-2004 05:15 »

yeh that made some kind of sence not much but some.

anyway how could you call your selfs fans you forgot one very important fact that was stated in
"luck of the fryish" frys grandfarther's name was not enus it was yance, as frys dad so staets "Your name is yance just like my name is yance and the same with my dad dateing all the way back to minete man yance.
    So the anyway there you are.

                 THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT
David A

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« Reply #16 on: 01-20-2004 07:59 »

 
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Originally posted by DogDoo8:
anyway how could you call your selfs fans you forgot one very important fact that was stated in
"luck of the fryish" frys grandfarther's name was not enus it was yance, as frys dad so staets "Your name is yance just like my name is yance and the same with my dad dateing all the way back to minete man yance.

Not this again.  Read this.

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Bushmeister

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« Reply #17 on: 01-20-2004 12:13 »

I thought that "Roswell That Ends Well" made it pretty clear that Enos was gay, what with his conversation in the Malt Shop and his preference for a rather muscle-clad man on a calender rather than Marylin Monroe.
Happy

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« Reply #18 on: 01-20-2004 12:57 »

Bushmeister took the words right out of my post. It was clear Enos wasn't too much on the straight side. More importantly, why did Fry originally believe that Enos was his grandfather. God, 3ACV18 and 4ACV10 are two of the most confusing episodes of Futurama ever.
MrBurns

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« Reply #19 on: 01-20-2004 13:14 »

 
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Originally posted by Happy:
Bushmeister took the words right out of my post. It was clear Enos wasn't too much on the straight side. More importantly, why did Fry originally believe that Enos was his grandfather. God, 3ACV18 and 4ACV10 are two of the most confusing episodes of Futurama ever.

Fry never told Mildred his name, so maybe she just called him "Enos" afterwards?

And concerning that Yancy/Enos thing... everybody has two grandfathers, and as Fry's mother has red hair, I bet Fry is her father. So Fry's father's father could still be called Yancy and Enos could still be called Enos. Well as I stated above, it was rather Fry who was called Enos but... well, you get the point.  wink
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #20 on: 01-21-2004 17:54 »

But Fry yells to his fatger in Enos' crotch (disturbing)... He might have been confused at the time. If Fry was wrong, it would solve ALL speculations within the blink of an eye.
Leela_Fan

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« Reply #21 on: 01-21-2004 18:12 »

i have aquestion. if fry is his father ´s father why fry´s mother have similar hair to fry. i don´t know if you understand me...
Teral

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« Reply #22 on: 01-21-2004 18:36 »
« Last Edit on: 01-21-2004 18:36 »

Coincidence. And the Futurama writers throwing us a curve ball.

Fry's paternal grandfather is himself. Mildred didn't know Fry's name, and put down Enos as the father of her child. Hence everybody think Fry's paternal grandfather is called Enos.

The child, Fry's father, is called Yancy, probably after Enos father, Yancy.

Welcome to PEEL, Leela_Fan (nice name, btw   wink ). Enjoy it here.
David A

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« Reply #23 on: 01-21-2004 19:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
The child, Fry's father, is called Yancy, probably after Enos father, Yancy.

I would think that he was named after Mildred's father.  If it was Enos' family that had the tradition of naming their sons Yancy, then Enos would probably have been named Yancy as well.

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Teral

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« Reply #24 on: 01-21-2004 19:08 »

Hey, yeah, that would work, and expalin why Fry's dad left out his own father when talking to Yancy in LOTF.

"Son your name is Yancy, just like me and my grandfather and so on." I always took it to mean it was his (Fry's dad) paternal grandfather who was named Yancy, but the other thing works even better.
luvnpeese

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« Reply #25 on: 01-21-2004 23:39 »

Fry's body has changed very much from ep. 1. For instance, he's sterile.

:-0
Coop

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« Reply #26 on: 01-21-2004 23:47 »

He's not. See "Parasites Lost" where Zoidberg rides a sperm.
zoidyzoid

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« Reply #27 on: 01-22-2004 01:25 »

Couldn't Enos have impregnated Mildred before he died?
futuramamama

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« Reply #28 on: 01-22-2004 07:17 »

NOOOO!! Don't mention that, I did it in another thread and they nearly bit my head off.
Also, In what other discussion groups can you read word's like "Niels Bohr, dat's me boy!"?
David A

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« Reply #29 on: 01-22-2004 08:24 »

 
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Originally posted by zoidyzoid:
Couldn't Enos have impregnated Mildred before he died?

Sure, he could have.  He didn't, though.

 
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Originally posted by futuramamama:
Also, In what other discussion groups can you read word's like "Niels Bohr, dat's me boy!"?

Probably in any other discussion groups that Tikka posts in.  He's really into Niels Bohr.   tongue

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #30 on: 01-22-2004 11:20 »

I don't really post in many other forums. Just a few, and not regularly. And I only mention Bohr when people praise Einstein and Hawking (that hoe!)
futuramamama

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« Reply #31 on: 01-22-2004 11:32 »

So you don't believe that we're close to finding the Theory of Everything?

There are only three questions of importance:

Of what is the spirit made?
What is worth dying for?
And what is worth living for?
The answer to all questions are the same:
Only love.


luvnpeese

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« Reply #32 on: 01-22-2004 11:38 »

Then what happened with him and the laser beam Bender shot at him? Oh well, just another inconsistency.

I know Niels Bohr's granddaughter; she went to my school. :-p
David A

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« Reply #33 on: 01-22-2004 11:40 »

 
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Originally posted by luvnpeese:
Then what happened with him and the laser beam Bender shot at him? Oh well, just another inconsistency.

It probably made him sterile, but the worms fixed him up in "Parasites Lost".

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Düffman

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« Reply #34 on: 01-22-2004 14:17 »

 
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Originally posted by futuramamama:
There are only three questions of importance:

Of what is the spirit made?
What is worth dying for?
And what is worth living for?
The answer to all questions are the same:
Only love.


Dear god futuramamama that was the most insightfull thing ive EVER heard ANY guy in my LIFE say.  eek im impressed.

Anyway, it makes sense that fry's "grandma" would just tell everyone that enos was the father of her child because she never saw fry again, and enos was killed in a blast, noone would disagreed, she probalby did this so she wouldnt have a bastard child (ps that one long, grammaticly inchorent sentence)
kelley

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« Reply #35 on: 01-28-2004 18:44 »

maybe because.......he's a cartoon!!!
Grim

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« Reply #36 on: 01-28-2004 18:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Leela_Fan:
i have aquestion. if fry is his father ´s father why fry´s mother have similar hair to fry. i don´t know if you understand me...

Because Red hair is a recessive genetic trait, it requires that for it to show up in a set of parents offspring they must both be carrying the red hair gene. therefore its quite possible for Fry to be the father of his father.

Mildred's brown hair gene dominates Fry's Red hair gene. Fry's father carries fry's Red hair gene but has Brown hair himself. Fry's mother carries Red Hair gene (also has red hair). When offspring are born there is a 1/4 chance that the child will have red hair.
Zed 85

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« Reply #37 on: 01-29-2004 03:54 »

I agree with Düffman, the likely lie that Enos was Fry's grandfather was that, yes, she'd be too ashamed to tell her family that she was impregnated by a one-night stand and instead would say it must have been from Enos just before he died and no one would argue with such a delicate issue.

I've always believed that Mildred is really Fry's Mum's Mum, though Grim's theory makes sense, partly because he obviously knows quite a fair bit more about genes than I do. I mean, I'm one of those people who are fine wearing them, but couldn't start to understand them.
But I always thought Fry looks too much like his mother, and Enos too. It's not like a man to confuse his grandparents, but this is Fry.

It could all be a big coincidence, or...perhaps his parents are...."related"
Okay scratch that...
Axl

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« Reply #38 on: 02-01-2004 09:10 »

Whoa, mind bogglers all over the place... Hmm... But what if Fry hadn't gone back to the past and slept with his grandmother? Then who would have been his grandfather? It couldn't have been Fry, because he wasn't there! Damn, this is unsolvable, even if you think really, really hard you cant come up with an answer...
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #39 on: 02-01-2004 10:02 »

Axl: You don't have to think. Just accept it, and all the hard work is done.
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