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ChAnCe

Delivery Boy
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« on: 10-19-2003 12:08 »

I've just read this fanfic (Blast to the Past) where they tried to implant Fry's 20th century nephew with a career chip. He was destined to become a DOOP ambassador.

And that got me thinking..
How do the Fate Assignment Officers detemine what job your best at?
Is it through education or are you injected with the chip shortly after birth?
If its the former, that means Amy dosen't have any career assigned as yet.

Secondly, being a Fate Officer is quite different from being a "county-certified space captain". How did Leela manage to jump ship if she already been assigned the job she is best at?
What do u guys think?
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #1 on: 10-19-2003 12:14 »

Well Leela was given a captains chip from the professer so when she went to get certified and they checked her chip it would have said space captain and since chips are given out by government officials they would have had no reason to check to see if that chip was really the one she was supposed to have.
Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #2 on: 10-19-2003 12:51 »

Amy is a Martian, The jurisdiction of the FAO Corps probably doesn't extend to the Red Planet.

They assign your fate after an examination, that among other things, include a ride in the prob-u-lator.
Frymeister

Bending Unit
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« Reply #3 on: 10-19-2003 14:17 »

What happens to a fate assignment officer after everyone wakes up from the freezer tubes?
Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #4 on: 10-19-2003 15:13 »

Relocated to a hospital? Or elementary/high school? Regular Earthicans are fate-assigned as well.
David A

Urban Legend
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« Reply #5 on: 10-19-2003 15:45 »

Meh, the whole career chip idea was pretty much abandoned after the first episode.  Aside from in "Cryonic Woman" I don't remember them ever being mentioned again.
Pitt Clemens

Urban Legend
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« Reply #6 on: 10-19-2003 16:06 »

Of course some species are impossible to assign fates to, Like the three-eyed blob race.  I guess they take any fate they want, or they eat who's ever responsible.
ChAnCe

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #7 on: 10-19-2003 21:42 »

If they Prof has the career from his previous crew (which is funny because the old PE ship was still there at the Honneycomb-hideout in The Sting), what excatly are they? He took out 3 chips if i'm not mistaken in SP3000. I mean Fry has the delivery boy chip, right? So what are the other 2? Leela can't possibly have the starship captain's chip yet because she was only elected the post in the 2nd episode. And the 3rd chip? Bender? ????
Unless they were all a generic chip. (Eg:"Intergalatic Package Delivery Crew" )
canned eggs

Space Pope
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« Reply #8 on: 10-20-2003 02:12 »

And if the chips are so easily interchangeable, that sort of diminishes the dystopian Big Brother aspect that I assume career chips are supposed to represent.  You know, "You gotta do what you gotta do."  I don't recall them ever mentioning that again, either.
Lionel Hutz Esq

Bending Unit
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« Reply #9 on: 10-20-2003 02:59 »

Leela's wasn't a "Captain" chip, just a "Space Pilot" Chip.  Bender's was a "Ship's Robot" chip, to replace his "Bend Girders for Suicide Booth" chip.  Rank isn't related to the chips, I suppose. 

Of course, since the writers went away from this (and the No. 9 guys) they never really had to explain them. 
David A

Urban Legend
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« Reply #10 on: 10-20-2003 03:47 »

I don't know why robots would even need career chips.  I mean, isn't the fact that he's a bending unit the reason why Bender was assigned to bending girders?

Why would a robot need a chip to assign his career when he's already built to perform a specific task?  That's just redundant.
Ranadok

Starship Captain
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« Reply #11 on: 10-20-2003 12:20 »

I didn't think that robots had career chips at all. Remember in Cryonic Woman, Bender whipped out the arm of a human for scanning. I doubt that all robots carry a human arm around for chip storage. Another thing that bothered me about that was the fact that he was given a job at the Cryogenics lab instead of being shipped off to Norway to run the place.  Does the fact that he was supposedly Prime Minister of Norway mean he can get any job he wants?
J.P. Diddy Wow

Bending Unit
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« Reply #12 on: 10-20-2003 19:15 »

Maybe in the future the Prime Minister of Norway is like some Uber-jobgettingthing. Either that or Leela's boss (ignee?) was just really happy to have a prime minister working for him. I would be if I owned a cryogenics lab.
or any other sort of lab for that matter.
PCC Fred

Space Pope
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« Reply #13 on: 10-20-2003 19:18 »

mmm, chips...
Lionel Hutz Esq

Bending Unit
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« Reply #14 on: 10-21-2003 01:34 »

I assume that you can always slum.  If your chip is Prime Minister of Norway, you can always work at McDonalds if you want.  That is why Bender keeps the arm. 

It would make sense to have robots have chips of some sort.  After all, there are millions of bending units, so some are probably customized, and others are used in non-bending ways.  You don't want to confuse them, so you chip them.
Ranadok

Starship Captain
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« Reply #15 on: 10-21-2003 02:27 »
« Last Edit on: 10-21-2003 02:27 »

   
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Originally posted by Lionel Hutz Esq:
I assume that you can always slum.  If your chip is Prime Minister of Norway, you can always work at McDonalds if you want.  That is why Bender keeps the arm. 
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the career chip, if someone with a "high" job can work a "low" one?  Who would do the job of the person who working below his assigned career? Someone with a low job?  That just throws the whole system out! Chaos! Chaos, I say!

   
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It would make sense to have robots have chips of some sort.  After all, there are millions of bending units, so some are probably customized, and others are used in non-bending ways.  You don't want to confuse them, so you chip them.
I would think that the fact that a robot is designed for a specific job is the same as a career chip, except that it isn't as enforced as the human equivalent, because it is assumed that a robot will only do what it is programmed. Bender is the exception, as his programming got screwed around in the lightbulb incident in the pilot. 

I was thinking about this, and I can't think of anything that directly contradicts the career chip system in Futurama. Granted, it isn't mentioned, but it that doesn't mean it isn't still there.  All I can think of that is close is the human police officer (whose name I really should be able to remember, but can't) saying, basically, that he was no longer on the Force in ATOTS.  This can still be true under the career chip plan, if the career given to him is not very specific. Perhaps one who is a "Peace Officer" can work as police, mall security, or any number of related jobs.  So, is there anywhere else that seems to specifically contradicts the career chip system?
Britz

Starship Captain
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« Reply #16 on: 10-21-2003 02:43 »

They determine it through internet tests, y'know the ones, those that tell you which Backstreet Boy your most like and judge your entire future from that, in cases where the tests are insufficient a trained monkey picks your career out of a bowler hat (any other kind of hat would be unacceptable.)

Now hows about a nice warm mug of shut the fuck up? (Say, I should make that my signature.)
Sil

Professor
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« Reply #17 on: 10-22-2003 11:54 »

 
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Originally posted by J.P. Diddy Wow:
Either that or Leela's boss (ignee?)

Ipgee.
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