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starone

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« on: 10-17-2003 14:46 »

Leela must be very strong. In the Route of all Evil she crushes Cubert's gameboy with one hand. Those things are hard!
Teral

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« Reply #1 on: 10-17-2003 15:04 »

Also in "Brannigan Begin Again" she tilts the sofa with ease, while Bender and Fry sit in it. We later learn that Bender weighs more than 200 kg, and Fry is no lightweight either.

In "Where No Fan Has Gone Before" she lift a heavy rock, a small boulder actually, as if it was a beachball.

Even Matt Groening commented on it in the audio commentary to "Brannigan Begin Again".

Leela is definetely stronger than the average human. Probably a part of her mutant background.
Luis

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« Reply #2 on: 10-18-2003 03:10 »

Perharps it was a hint as why Leela was "The other". Guess we'll never find out exactly why was she "the other" now that the series is over and CN doesn't seem to care enough to wrestle the rights off the greedy claws of FOX.
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #3 on: 10-18-2003 04:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Luis:
CN doesn't seem to care enough to wrestle the rights off the greedy claws of FOX.
It's not that they don't care, they just can't afford it. They would love more episodes, it is rating better than any other show they have.

JDHannan

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« Reply #4 on: 10-18-2003 21:37 »

maybe in the future, gameboys arent the same as gameboys from 1000 yrs ago...
PCC Fred

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« Reply #5 on: 10-18-2003 22:20 »
« Last Edit on: 10-18-2003 22:20 »

Maybe it's a 1000 year old Gameboy.

Or Leela really IS that strong.  I bet she gives great hugs.  love
Donbot

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« Reply #6 on: 10-18-2003 22:23 »

It's possible.  After all, computers will be twice as fast as they were back in 1973 then.
[AdAM]

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« Reply #7 on: 10-19-2003 09:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Donbot:
It's possible.  After all, computers will be twice as fast as they were back in 1973 then.
Arouuuuuuuuuuu!  big grin
winna

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« Reply #8 on: 10-19-2003 10:25 »

Maybe Leela has titanium alloy implants... scratch that, I meant dogamite implants  big grin
ChAnCe

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« Reply #9 on: 10-19-2003 21:46 »

Maybe she drank her Expressos with lots and lots and lots of milk in it when she was growing up at the orphanarium? Like they say, drink lots of milk for good and strong bones!  smile
Well maybe Buggalo milk is more potent than the extint(sp?) cow's milk in the future...
El Zilcho

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« Reply #10 on: 10-20-2003 01:06 »

 
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Originally posted by winna:
Maybe Leela has titanium alloy implants... scratch that, I meant dogamite implants   big grin
From the context it is clear what you mean.
ChAnCe

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« Reply #11 on: 10-20-2003 21:32 »

 
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Originally posted by winna:
Maybe Leela has titanium alloy implants... scratch that, I meant dogamite implants   big grin

I dunno man.. I mean in Insane in the Mainframe, it looked awfully soft and comfortable to me.. (Beep beep beep beep!)
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And in The Why Of Fry, shouldn't there be like two huge dents in front of Bender after they "chest-banged" each another?
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Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #12 on: 10-20-2003 21:48 »

Well, she does work out a lot and has big muscles. I know people who have a simualr build who can lift sofas (not with heavy robots on them, but...) with great ease. And, as Teral said, probably partial to her mutant background. Those mutants, ya never know what they possess.  wink
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #13 on: 12-15-2003 21:44 »

a little fire will show em whos boss
David A

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« Reply #14 on: 12-15-2003 21:53 »

 
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Originally posted by ActionLaPointe:
a little fire will show em whos boss

You bumped this thread just for that?   no no

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Tweek

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« Reply #15 on: 12-19-2003 04:18 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Also in "Brannigan Begin Again" she tilts the sofa with ease, while Bender and Fry sit in it. We later learn that Bender weighs more than 200 kg, and Fry is no lightweight either.

Later in that episode when they are on Stumbos Four the high gravity has virtually no effect on her; the only sign of it is her hair.


Pikka Bird

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« Reply #16 on: 12-19-2003 15:01 »

Hey ChANcE (never mind the caps)- Implants are rarely a shell on the exterior of the body like an exoskeleton... So there would be no "huge dents" in Bender.
And she doesn't have... oooohh, thoseimplants. [Fry]I get it![/Fry]
No, seriously, she doesn't have custom enhancements or is mecha-buff-bodybuilder. F_Hil: "similar build" do you mean bodybuilders? Fry is not attracted to that type, I'm sure and keep in mind that she can have an athletic figure without being a bodybuilder (and besides- I can flip over a quite huge sofa with ease, and I'm a total scrawny weakling...). Remember- it's a cartoon- the proportions might be a little off...
Mutant strength is it.
Blue Zoidberg

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« Reply #17 on: 12-21-2003 08:51 »

and she managed to pick up that solid gold fiddle with relative ease.  That's gotta be one heavy fiddle.
Teral

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« Reply #18 on: 12-21-2003 11:08 »

Heavy enough to make Beelzebot scream like a little girl.  big grin

Kicking in the door at the Head Museum in SP3k was no small feat either. No matter how good she is at Arcturan Kung-fu, that takes raw power.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #19 on: 08-23-2011 22:15 »

Not so much a weird scene, but rather something I would like to check:

Many comedies fall for the wrong assumption
Martial Artist -> Exceptional physical strength.

I haven't paid too much attention yet (and I'm to lazy to watch all
episodes again;)), but I do think Futurama did a better job regarding
this. If I am not mistaken, Leela's physical strength (abilitiy
to lift heavy objects, etc..., not the ability to deliver a hard punch) seems to be
rather normal (leaving the rocklifting in WNFHBF aside as e.g. Fry's
one time ability to lift Hermes with one arm in THBB)

So, are there any scenes I did miss, or did the series in fact
keep Leela's physical strength at a rather normal level?
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #20 on: 08-23-2011 22:18 »
« Last Edit on: 08-23-2011 22:20 »

Well she was certainly no match for the Space Whale in Möbius Dick with that little knife, but I'd say fairly normal overall...
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #21 on: 08-24-2011 00:54 »
« Last Edit on: 08-24-2011 00:55 »

She is a mutant, so it wouldn't be unsurprising if she had greater physical strength then a normal human woman.  She also seems to have a lot of stamina, since we rarely see her get tired after a lot of kicking and punching.   We've also seen her overpower Amy whenever they wrestle or engage in hand to hand combat, and various male characters.
spira

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« Reply #22 on: 08-24-2011 04:26 »

She has above-average physical strength but nothing implausible. The scene I have replaying through my head right now is the one from one of the Christmas episodes where she and Fry don't even come close to counteracting Bender's pulling of the gear thing when he's supposed to be pushing.
David A

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« Reply #23 on: 08-26-2011 05:34 »

Yeah, Leela's pretty strong.  It's been mentioned before.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #24 on: 08-26-2011 06:23 »
« Last Edit on: 08-26-2011 12:19 »

Was just shown this thread as I did post a rather similar question.
I don't want to be a spoilsport, but as a Practitioner of Kung Fu and Kickboxing, I just cannot leave the last phrase uncommented:

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Kicking in the door at the Head Museum in SP3k was no small feat either. No matter how good she is at Arcturan Kung-fu, that takes raw power.
I am very sorry, but you are wrong about that.
You see, a punch's/kick's impact is in fact NOT mostly based on raw power, your muscles, etc... . When you punch, you leave your arm as relaxed as possible, and strike as fast as you can.  The very last moment before impact, you built up tension in your muscles.*
(Same with kicks). It's rather your ability to pass on an impulse properly to your target, than your physical strength. (In my old Kung Fu class, I was rather average strength wise. Yet I was the one who could by far deliver that hardest punch (expect our coach, of course...wink)

Okay...I have to admit this is nitpicking to the max on my part, but when you train something trice a week for years, it's probably normal to get picky about the proper details;)


About the gravity having no effect on her:
She was probably just clever. When you stand in a hunched stance, your knees bend, etc... , you need to apply muscle strength to keep that way. Standing straight is in fact much easier. Imagine yourself pushing a car: Would you do so with stretched or bent arms? Stretched, of course. There is a reason your joints can be locked;) Or try to stand a while with your knees bent in a deep stance, and try the same with your legs straight.

Examine that scene closer: Brannigan and Fry have a rather slouched stance, knees bend. The gravity pushed them forward, and their knees have a direction in which they can give in. They had to fight the gravity to get upright, and also apply strength to their legs.
Leela stood more upright, so no weight cloud push her forward.  When entering that planet, her knees gave in, but she immediatelly streched them. (she had to do one just movement, straightening her knees, and could put all her strength behind it...while Brannigan and Fry had to use their strength to keep their balance, tensen their back muscles, and tried to keep their knees from giving in, though they were already bent way too much to be able to get up again.)


*Okay, when practising martial arts, your strength will sooner or later get above average. But not to a degree as a e.g. say weight-lifter.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #25 on: 08-26-2011 06:32 »
« Last Edit on: 08-28-2011 01:51 »

Oh dear...now you got me started by showing this thread wink
No, but kidding aside, thanks smile

All in all -regarding the answers in this thread here- I would also label Leela as the "above-average-strength" you automatically gain as martial artist, but within the normal means.

The other thread's examples bear a bit too much a "one-time-joke" character:
- E.g. Leela twisting that couch in "Brannigan begins again: Bender's and Fry's weight was leaned back. Pushing the couch to the backside, sending them of they way they already leaned...sure. Pushing it to the front means to move those 300 kgs.  Which would mean that Leela could have twisted more than 300 kgs with one arm alone (without taking a proper body stance, and you get a lot of strength out of that...and isolated arm movement is rather weak compared to that) That would mean -using two arms AND a proper body stance- Leela should be able to lift more than 1 ton, in fact, probably 2-3 tons.

Seems a bit too much to me;) (E.g she wasn't able to get up when Hermes pinned her down in "Möbius Dick", but had to use her leg first to apply the proper leverage, get the opponent off, and THEN get up). Who can lift several tons should be able to lift Hermes, you would think;) (And you'd think she would not waste too much time by sending the other three several times to the ship and back to deliver one pillow at a time in  "Brannigan begins again", when she could have carried 10-20 of them alone, maybe even all pillows;)).

Nope, that couch example just doesn't do...
spira

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« Reply #26 on: 08-26-2011 14:09 »

I don't think she's supposed to be able to lift several tons. The couch thing was a one-time joke, like when the Professor was extremely thin in Prisoner of Benda when he had never been and was never again.
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