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CyberKnight
Urban Legend
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Thats actually a potential story thread to pick up. Maybe he went crazy and became... dun dun dun!!! Evil Fry!!! Or maybe not, either's good.
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Nixorbo
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Teral: He spends eternity with a bunch of giant floating brains, who form a tightly nit clique he isn't part of. Not a cheerful way to end ones life, but that's the way it is. Not to mention the starving/dehydrating to death part.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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[Zoidberg]Oh right right! The starving. I always forget about the starving to death.[/Zoidberg]
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gus
Crustacean
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Originally posted by Teral: [Zoidberg]Oh right right! The starving. I always forget about the starving to death.[/Zoidberg]
AHAHAHAHAHA, funniest thing i've seen here. Kudos on the great joke.
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Killbot Bot Jnr
Bending Unit
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Simply..there is no alternate Fry.. in fact Fry dissapears when he told Nibbler "just renember that the scooty puf junir suckkksssss!!!!!" , because in that moment Nibbler understood thay Fry will have problems in future due to the crappy bike so he gets a Sr one and therefore Fry is not traped in the infosphere ...and therefore he never went back in time to tell this to Nibbler which means he would have been trapped etc... When he went back in time he would have created an alternate universe by giving Nibbler information about the future. I think he must have returned back through time to spend an eternity with the brains. Well, actually, this didn't happen either because it is just a cartoon and isn't real. Hope I didn't spoil this for anyone.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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In Space Pilot 3000, we just see Nibbler's shadow.
Fry and Nibbler both appear in Jurassic Bark, as well as the stork of Nibbler's eye in the garbage can.
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Mandrakis
Crustacean
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Hehehehehe Scooty puff JR. Ooooh now I want one.
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Mandrakis
Crustacean
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Maybe some other lost secret perhaps he was there to make sure Nibbler pushes Fry.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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Phish, I think you're forgetting that although Futurama is part-comedy, it's also part-science fiction. That's why people are constantly coming up with theories, etc. for the show. Of course it's impossible - but that doesn't mean we can't come up with some type of logic for it.
Also, Boingo2000 - I misread what you said. I thought you meant that it was debatable whether it was a Nibblonian or not, rather than just Nibbler. Sorry about that.
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Mandrakis
Crustacean
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Also it gives people a chance to complain about how many ideas weren't done.
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Strit
Crustacean
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Fry vanished because Nibbler realized that he was going to make a mistake in the future, so Fry wouldn't have to go back in time to warn Nibbler. So all that really happened was that the Nibblionians gave Fry a Scooty Puff Sr. instead of a Scooty Puff Jr.
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iceman
Crustacean
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What if you looked at it like this...time isn't a line but more like a point. It doesn't happen like you would read a book, with certain things happening before other things, but happens all at once. Every single moment in time just exists. And if you go back and change something, everything changes in the split second that you changed that something. Therefore if Fry went back in time and changed something (the fact that he needed a Scooty Puff Sr. instead of the Jr.) he would have immediately disappeared because he changed things. By telling Nibbler to make it a Scooty Puff Sr., everything just...BAM!...changed. In the new time "point" (instead of time line) that he created by changing things, he doesn't have to go back in time to tell Nibbler because Nibbler already knows. I’ll give another example (and for the sake of it, just assume this is what would actually happen). If someone went back in time and murdered Hitler, then...BAM!...everything would change instantly. There would be no World War II, no persecution of the Jews, etc. And we would know of no other history except the one that was created by murdering Hitler. It would be like a new time “point” is created.
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iceman
Crustacean
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« Reply #33 on: 09-18-2003 15:20 »
« Last Edit on: 09-18-2003 15:20 »
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry: Though there would still be the original timeline (or point). Time, which is a cube cubed (think of it as many overlapping cubes in infinite directions, each being the most infinitely small measurement of time of a universe, forming long strands, or timelines, and branching off all the time) has infinite possibilities. Both universes exist, but by going back in time, Fry branched off a new universe almost parallel to his original one. Yea, that all makes sense (well, about as much sense as it can make, which isn't a lot). So basically he just creates a new universe really similar to his original one? And he exists in both of them?
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Prof. Wernstrum
Starship Captain
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One theory about time-travel that helps explain away paradoxes is to also take into account the theory of alternate universes. This theory states that whenever any action is taken, a new universe is created for each of the possible outcomes. So the original universe is where Fry did not go back, but when he does, he reaches a previous time in his own universe but this now splits into two universes - the original one where Fry did not appear, and the new one where he did. In this new universe, everything carries on in basically the same way as the original one except that the Nibblonians build a decent bike and so Fry escapes. However, he still went back in time from the original universe so he still told Nibbler about the bike and we avoid the whole "Fry doesn't go back, so Nibbler gives him a crappy bike, so Fry goes back, so he gets the good thing, so he doesn't go back..." thing. Of course this contradicts the time travel paradoxes in Roswell That Ends Well and Futurama: The Game where doing stuff in the past caused it to have already happened so... Humourous cartoon - explains everything.
Seriously though, we won't ever really know the answer unless time-travel is ever actually invented.
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nichie
Crustacean
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Originally posted by John C:I think the main problem with that explanation is that no one wants to believe the Fry they knew and loved since the beginning was killed.
(NOTE: I haven't seen this episode in a long time, so I might have some things wrong) Well as I understand it (and I could be wrong), it's still technically the same Fry because Fry #1 (original Fry) went back in time, splitting the timeline into two, and then continued on in the second timeline. Fry #2 would be the Fry that didn't go back in time and ended up with the Scooty Puff Jr. You could say that as soon as Fry went back he made two of himself, in two seperate universes. Assuming we say that the Fry that went back is the original one, it's actually his "clone" that gets killed.
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