Jesse X Barboza
Bending Unit
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« on: 08-21-2003 19:33 »
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I didn't know where else to put this.
Has anyone noticed episodes where the animation just doesn't seem right? I just got the Season 2 DVD today, and the animation for 2ACV02 "Brannigan Begin Again" is pretty horrendous at times. It's appalling how many times characters slip off model - Leela and Zapp particularly.
Another episode is 1ACV07 "My Three Suns", although this one's kind of divided - some spots look great, some spots look lousy. For instance, when Fry says "you might", or when Leela fights the Trisolians, the animation is fluid and well-done, almost theatrical. But when the Trisolians applaud Fry and splash into the sky, or when Gorgak rams into the door and turns into a puddle, the animation is poorly done and rushed, almost 30 frames per second sometimes, which is too fast for normal animation.
Anyone want to back me up on this?
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Mercapto
Professor
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The scene from "Mother's Day" where Fry is "attacked" by the coffee machine and falls to the floor sports some very freaky animation. Especially this frame.
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mitsu
Crustacean
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*blinks* Wow. Yeah, that is definitely squash and stretch. Even so- that frame is REALLY funny. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite that extreme. Still, I have to agree with Evil Fox Exec- Futurama is the best animated TV show. Also, I'd just like to add to the comments on the water- it's true, liquid is very hard to animate, especially in an episode so early on when the animators are getting adjusted to the look of the show. Gotta give 'em props for making up for it later.
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Nixorbo
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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How about the entire deathboarding scene from Cryonic Woman?
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THE LIGHTPOST???
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El Zilcho
Professor
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Originally posted by Mercapto: The scene from "Mother's Day" where Fry is "attacked" by the coffee machine and falls to the floor sports some very freaky animation. Especially this frame. Well, I'm off to make an avatar.
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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Did anyone else notice near the very end of 'Jurassic Bark' there's a head on view of Bender, and his eye compartment is totally off. I was annoyed they even let that air, it was not just off, it was way off, to the side.
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El Zilcho
Professor
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Hmmm, I have to check that one out. The only time I remember his eye compartment being off was the end of "Raging Bender".
I noticed in "Mars University", Guenther is slightly off-model when he says "with Chrissy." Later, Leela is slightly off-model, and she looks similar to the off-model Guenther. I think it's when she says "Fry, you'll offer him the banana" or something like that.
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Rocketboy: In A Fishful of Dollars, When it shows the planet express crew on the first scene Bender looked chubby! I noticed that too, his proportions were terrible.
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sheep555
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by Jesse X Barboza: [...]the animation is poorly done and rushed, almost 30 frames per second sometimes, which is too fast for normal animation.
No one's commented on this, so I will Nearly all of the CGI only scenes are 30 fps (or something around 30...either way, double the hand drawn fps), but I don't find this that noticeable. I guess what you're referring to is the "speed up machine", which used to be a device that simply pulled the film through at a faster rate, making it go...faster. It's now a digital plug in, which simply makes the animation run faster. It's possible to also speed up audio without losing the pitch, but it can sound a bit weird. The speed up machine is used in nearly all TV animation, in order to squeeze in as much as possible without cutting. It's noticeable in many episodes, such as the chase scene in "The Cryonic Woman".
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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This isn't as much as an animation error as it is a colouring error, but still - I'll put it here anyway (keep in mind that Bender's proportions were discussed earlier here too). Anyway, in Episode 2: The Series Has Landed, during the scene where Bender's neck is being cleaned - the inside of his visor-thingy keeps changing from black to grey.
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Nixorbo
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Metallica: lila ... Teral, be nice. Don't make him suffer too much. Incidently, who has the bloody knife now, anyway?
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Wow, good thing I didn't read this thread before today. Metallica wouldn't have made it out of here alive. Now that he seems to have left PEEL, I don't have to worry about criminal charges.
I'm sure I send the knife back to New Jersey after using it. Kryten probably have it, covered with getak's blood.
Anyway, the reason I read this thread is I noticed that Leela and Fry seems off model during most of "Luck Of The Fryrish"'s second act (the trip in old New York). Particular while riding the Bender-train, and the scenes just prior to that, when they look out over an area with the top of Chrysler Building. I'll get a framegrab later.
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