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mjsmith

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« on: 08-17-2003 22:12 »

Did anyone catch the basket that Leela give to Kif on tonight's repeat? She said that the basket was the one that was in the ophanage as a child.

Kind of odd that the episode, if Fox have not messed it up, would've been followed by "Leela's Homeworld" next (At least CN is doing it when they get to their first full go-around after airing the fifth season episodes).  roll eyes
leelaholic

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« Reply #1 on: 08-17-2003 22:28 »

Oh... cool  big grin
Teral

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« Reply #2 on: 08-18-2003 03:26 »

What's most amazing is how she knew that was her basket. In "Leela's Homeworld" we see that warden Vogel just tosses the basket into a big pile of other baskets. Finding the real one would be neigh on impossible. Either Leela is just in denial (possible, but not likely) or Vogel lied to her (much more likely).
SpaceCase

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« Reply #3 on: 08-18-2003 03:35 »

Regardless, Teral, it was still "her" basket.
In spirit, if not fact.
Rhodan

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« Reply #4 on: 08-19-2003 15:54 »

There is still explanation with Warden Vogulīs photographic memory...
El Zilcho

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« Reply #5 on: 08-19-2003 15:56 »

I was gonna say "script logic," but photographic memory explains it too.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #6 on: 08-19-2003 16:08 »

I find it kinda strange that she'd just give something away that carried so much sentimental value to her...
Chump

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« Reply #7 on: 08-19-2003 16:23 »

Yeah, but they were in reality her children, genetically speaking, so she had some obligation...
Cube_166

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« Reply #8 on: 08-19-2003 16:51 »

 
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Originally posted by El Zilcho:
I was gonna say "script logic," but photographic memory explains it too.

and wizards.
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« Reply #9 on: 08-19-2003 16:57 »

But there's a difference between remembering a basket and finding said basket several years later. It would be at least 13-15 years before Leela would even start to be interested in her own past, and by extention the basket. The basket would then be either stored with hundreds of other baskets, or thrown out.
SpaceCase

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« Reply #10 on: 08-19-2003 20:37 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
But there's a difference between remembering a basket and finding said basket several years later. It would be at least 13-15 years before Leela would even start to be interested in her own past, and by extention the basket. The basket would then be either stored with hundreds of other baskets, or thrown out.

Teral, you're a literalist, aren't you?
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It's not that Leela actually retieved that individual, exact basket: It's what the basket meant to her.
As the genetic mother of Kif's children, she felt some kinship, some connection to them. Therefore she gave Kif and Amy 'her' basket, and all that it stood for.
Whether or not it was the exact basket Leela was found in on the orphanarium doorstep, it still meant a great deal to her.
It ain't the gift: It's what the gift means.
Besides, in a thousand years, they may have a way of tracking such things. Trace DNA analysis, maybe?
I'll get off my soapbox now...
Teral

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« Reply #11 on: 08-19-2003 20:52 »

 
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
 Teral, you're a literalist, aren't you?
   wink

When it comes to nitpicking, very much.  big grin

Good point though about it being Leela's basket, figuratively speaking.

Then again she does say "it's the basket my parents left me in at the Orphanarium."

Okay, the evidence support both sides, so I'll shut up now.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #12 on: 08-19-2003 21:14 »
« Last Edit on: 08-19-2003 21:14 »

 
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Originally posted by Cube_166:
 
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Originally posted by El Zilcho:
I was gonna say "script logic," but photographic memory explains it too.

And wizards.
Dark Wizard: Sure, blame the wizards.
SpaceCase

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« Reply #13 on: 08-20-2003 03:31 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
 When it comes to nitpicking, very much.   big grin
When it comes to "hard science fiction" I'm with you bruddah!
Hard Science Fiction = more science, less fiction
Futurama is not "hard science fiction," it's science-fiction humor. Humor doesn't stand up well to rigorous analysis, so I (at least) am willing to give Futurama more latitude for the sake of the laughs.


 
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Good point though about it being Leela's basket, figuratively speaking.

Then again she does say "it's the basket my parents left me in at the Orphanarium."

Okay, the evidence support both sides, so I'll shut up now.

It means Leela believes the basket to be the one her parents left in at the orphanarium: Regardless of whether, in fact, it is or not.

I take it this means we agree to meet somewhere in the middle? Or at least recognize each others point?
I'll take what I can get...
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