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Spice Weasel

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« on: 06-02-2003 02:27 »

I was wondering if anyone caught the name on the envelope of cocoa Fry put in Leela's cup during the sleigh ride. I can't quite make it out.  Looks to me like Semetic Miss?

Who was the head-in-a-jar at Fry's funeral?
Looks to me like Chester A Arthur?


Strat

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« Reply #1 on: 06-02-2003 02:33 »

it was Chester, my buddy.

Would've been great if someone knocked him over.
Margarita

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« Reply #2 on: 06-02-2003 03:00 »

from CGEF capsule - Semitic Miss Cocoa
Spice Weasel

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« Reply #3 on: 06-02-2003 03:09 »

^Thanks for pointing me to the capsule.  The capsule states thet the candy heart in Leela's memory box says "UR 2 Cute"  I maintain it should be the "U Leave Me Breathless" heart.  Very hard to see in the video.  Any thoughts? If not, someone close this thread.
[-mArc-]

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« Reply #4 on: 06-02-2003 03:39 »

To be honest, I don't know which one it is. Just too small. Did "U Leave Me Breathless" turn up in Love&Rocket? If they both do, I'll just delete the quote from the capsule and have it say "heart candy from L&R".
Spice Weasel

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« Reply #5 on: 06-02-2003 03:50 »

Yes the Breathless and Cute hearts both show up in L&R.  Fry shows Leela the Cute heart earlier on, then he spits the Breathless heart onto Leela's face in that great scene towards the end.

LAN.gnome

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« Reply #6 on: 06-02-2003 04:25 »

In the procession that went to Orbital Meadows before Fry's funeral, there was a cement-mixer-looking ship that had "Quik-Setting DNA" written on the side. What does that have to do with anything?
Strat

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« Reply #7 on: 06-02-2003 04:28 »

Sal was driving it... 
SpaceCase

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« Reply #8 on: 06-02-2003 05:05 »

Why would Sal attend Fry's funeral?  confused
Strat

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« Reply #9 on: 06-02-2003 05:32 »

Their numerous run ins across the galaxy allowed them to foster a great relationship which was never shown due it being in a future season not gotten to thanks to Fox
mikey

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« Reply #10 on: 06-02-2003 06:27 »

 
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
Why would Sal attend Fry's funeral?   confused

sal was actually frys poker buddy it just didnt come up much in the plot.

Anarchist

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« Reply #11 on: 06-02-2003 09:04 »
« Last Edit on: 06-02-2003 09:04 »

 
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Originally posted by [-mArc-]:
To be honest, I don't know which one it is. Just too small. Did "U Leave Me Breathless" turn up in Love&Rocket? If they both do, I'll just delete the quote from the capsule and have it say "heart candy from L&R".

It was "U Leave Me Breathless." I can see it very clearly on my, ah, digital copy.

Here's an image of it - I magnified it and circled the individual words.

It clearly says:
U
leave me
breath-
less.
mikey

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« Reply #12 on: 06-02-2003 11:04 »
« Last Edit on: 06-02-2003 11:04 »

I noticed scruffy on bagpipes and the radiater from lesser of two evils commemting on frys snu snu..
Nixorbo

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« Reply #13 on: 06-02-2003 11:41 »

I just noticed - on the framegrab on the main page, you can tell Fry's jetpack is upside-down
sheep555

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« Reply #14 on: 06-02-2003 12:04 »

Here's a little goof - when Leela wakes up and throws Nibbler off the bed, we hear him hit the wall and yelp - except the sound of him hitting the wall is panned hard left, and the sound of him yelping is panned hard right.
SQFreak

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« Reply #15 on: 06-02-2003 14:42 »
« Last Edit on: 06-02-2003 14:42 »

Nix: Yep. I noticed that watching the episode the third time through.
Sheep: Possibly so we could tell them apart?

It would be more likely to be U Leave Me Breathless, as with that one, Leela realized how much Fry loved her.


Mikey: And Michelle was there.

Did anyone else catch Hermes saying, "Sweet three-toed sloth of ice planet Hoth!" as a reference to The Empire Strikes Back?
Chump

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« Reply #16 on: 06-02-2003 15:49 »

Yeah, very tricky...

As everyone is pointing out, why were the old crew in this episode said to have been killed by space bees, when in the first one they were devoured by a space wasp (singular)?

Also, did you notice that Leela and the dead captain said the same thing, word for word, about not letting the bees make them fail?
Teral

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« Reply #17 on: 06-02-2003 16:16 »

I couldn't hear, there where too much static.

This is spacebees/wasps. In other words, organisms living in space, and obviously very dangerous animals. It's possible the two species are very similar in appearance, and someone simply made a labelling mistake on the envelope. Maybe the expedition who retrieved the career chips didn't include any skilled exo-biologists, and they where too busy fighting for their lifes to take good pictures.

You have to hand it to old man Farnsworth though, he can be pretty sneaky. I bet that little story at the beginning was a simple piece of reverse psychology.
Chanukah Zombie

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« Reply #18 on: 06-02-2003 21:50 »
« Last Edit on: 06-02-2003 21:50 »

That's a good point I hadn't considered until now.  Maybe there was one giant space wasp hanging around somewhere near the nest of giant space bees?  Maybe the last crew actually escaped death at the mandibles of these bees only to get gobbled up in midroute of their escape by a lone, rogue wasp.  Stranger things than that have happened.  For that matter, I'm not sure I'd put it past old Farnsy to deliberately feed his crew to some monster just for sport, even after they had returned safely home.    confused

Let's get jiggy with it.  Maybe the crew was swallowed by a big space bee that was, in turn, swallowed up by an even bigger space wasp?    eek

 
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Originally posted by Chump:
As everyone is pointing out, why were the old crew in this episode said to have been killed by space bees, when in the first one they were devoured by a space wasp (singular)?

SQFreak

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« Reply #19 on: 06-02-2003 22:00 »
« Last Edit on: 06-02-2003 22:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
I couldn't hear, there where too much static.

This is spacebees/wasps. In other words, organisms living in space, and obviously very dangerous animals. It's possible the two species are very similar in appearance, and someone simply made a labelling mistake on the envelope. Maybe the expedition who retrieved the career chips didn't include any skilled exo-biologists, and they where too busy fighting for their lifes to take good pictures.

You have to hand it to old man Farnsworth though, he can be pretty sneaky. I bet that little story at the beginning was a simple piece of reverse psychology.

Which brings up another excellent point. How the hell are organisms living in space? There's no air, no water, and the only land is the asteroids.

Rank-up in 6 posts.

Edit: Oh, and exobiologists have been renamed by NASA to astrobiologists.
Anarchist

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« Reply #20 on: 06-02-2003 22:22 »

Let's just face it: it's a goof. The Pilot was written way before The Sting was conceived, and they just included the Space Wasp thing as a gag. Later, they decided to write an episode about the old crew which developed into The Sting, and they had to change wasps to bees because wasps don't make honey. Can we accept it as cartoon logic and move on?
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #21 on: 06-02-2003 22:35 »

Here's something: Since we were seeing Leela's dream, everything should have been from her point of view, but it wasn't.  For instance, how did she dream the bit with Bender on fire since it happened before she arrived?
Chanukah Zombie

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« Reply #22 on: 06-02-2003 22:42 »

That's nothing.  People have dreams in which they themselves do not appear. 

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
Here's something: Since we were seeing Leela's dream, everything should have been from her point of view, but it wasn't.  For instance, how did she dream the bit with Bender on fire since it happened before she arrived?

Action Jacktion

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« Reply #23 on: 06-02-2003 22:45 »
« Last Edit on: 06-02-2003 22:45 »

I know that, but she thought it was reality, meaning it should all have been from her point of view.  Or was she so crazy that she didn't realize she was dreaming things she couldn't have seen?
Anarchist

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« Reply #24 on: 06-02-2003 22:55 »

You never had a dream that seemed very real while you were dreaming it, but was extremely weird and irrational to you when you woke up? (Assuming you remembered it, of course.)
Venus

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« Reply #25 on: 06-02-2003 23:20 »

i have those all the time. The ones where bad things happen to my kitties are the worst.
SQFreak

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« Reply #26 on: 06-02-2003 23:32 »

You mean like them getting rocketed across the room when you wake up from those dreams?
What's scary is that I know exactly what you're talking about.
It was being seen from her POV, but it had to show something without Leela present, or we would realize that, "Hey! We haven't had a single second without Leela on the screen!" and would figure out the ending.
Chanukah Zombie

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« Reply #27 on: 06-03-2003 00:54 »

I'm pretty sure I remember having dreams where I could see myself from someone else's perspective.  Maybe it's rare, but Leela wasn't asleep, she was comatose and her bloodstream was full of venom, so it's not surprising if her dreams were abnormal. 
SQFreak

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« Reply #28 on: 06-03-2003 01:03 »

They've been proved to be abnormal! She went insane! The characters appeared on her walls telling her that she killed Fry (though she didn't).

Who goes insane in their dreams? (Besides Leela) Apparently (hopefully) the venom made her insane.

Countdown: One post to go!
Anarchist

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« Reply #29 on: 06-03-2003 01:19 »
« Last Edit on: 06-03-2003 01:19 »

 
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Originally posted by SQFreak:
The characters appeared on her walls telling her that she killed Fry (though she didn't).
Well, technically, she didn't, but practically, she did. She forced him to go on that mission even though they both knew it was too dangerous, and she was the one who brought the killer space been onboard the ship. Yes, he did sacrafice his life for her by his own choice (well, he didn't actually die, but he was prepared to, and Leela thought he did), but he wouldn't have had to if it weren't for her. She didn't actually kill him, but he [could have] died because of her, and with that guilt on her chest, she might as well have killed him herself. She didn't have to be insane to have that point of view; a good friend [could have] died, and it was entirely her fault.
This unnecesserily long-winded rant can be summarised in two words: guilty counsciense.
sheep555

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« Reply #30 on: 06-03-2003 04:51 »
« Last Edit on: 06-03-2003 04:51 »

 
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Originally posted by SQFreak:
Did anyone else catch Hermes saying, "Sweet three-toed sloth of ice planet Hoth!" as a reference to The Empire Strikes Back?

That line cracked me up...

Here's another goof (I think, it's not that clear on my "copy" ) - the PE ship gets dented in many places by bees during the escape, but in the shot of the PE ship flying away from the hive in space it isn't dented anymore...
Jesse X Barboza

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« Reply #31 on: 06-03-2003 11:26 »

Can anyone make a list of everyone attending Fry's funeral? I'm trying to make a guide page for the episode and I need it for "The Stuff You May Have Missed".
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #32 on: 06-03-2003 11:35 »

I did a list here, along with a list of everything in Leela's box.  I think there are still a few unidentified people at the funeral, but they could have just been random chracters.
Anarchist

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« Reply #33 on: 06-03-2003 11:50 »
« Last Edit on: 06-03-2003 11:50 »

I'm pretty sure there weren't any random characters at the funeral scene, although I can't list them all off the top of my head right now. I'll watch that scene again and tell you.(Damn, this is so embarrassing - I watched the episode about 7 or 8 times now, and I still don't know it by heart. Yeah, I'm a dork   tongue)
* Two Trisolians
* Two Neptunian "elves"
* Sal
* Cuebert
* Dwight
* Gunther
* Leela's old boss
* Terry (Leela's old co-worker)
* Father Changstein Al-Gamal
* Somebody's head (Chester A. ....?)
* Scruffy
* an Amazonian
* Petunia
* Girl Fry picked up at The Hip Joint
* Morgan Proctor
* Michelle
* "Radiator woman from the radiator planet"
* Three Signoids from the pizzeria in "A Leela of Her Own"
* Leo Wong
* Inez Wong
* Amy
* Dr. Zoidberg
* Hermes
* LaBarbara
* Professor Farnsworth
* Bender
* Leela
* Fry tongue
SQFreak

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« Reply #34 on: 06-03-2003 12:05 »

I'm only at 5 times through  smile

Leela, Professor, Amy, Hermes, LaBarbara, Amazon Woman (who was previously in the mood), Scruffy, Priest, Radiator, Michelle, Petunia, Wong family, President Chester A. Arthur, Cubert, Sal (why?), Neptunians (not Elzar), "two Cygnoids" (who are they - that's courtesy Action Jacktion), petrified Seymour the dog - I'm missing two girlfriends.
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #35 on: 06-03-2003 20:14 »

Good job SQFreak, I didn't notice Seymour was there... cool.
Venus

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« Reply #36 on: 06-03-2003 22:29 »

did you notice that in the hospital scene you can hear Leela's heart moniter and see an iv stand with 2 pouches of something, yet nothing is actually hooked to Leela herself.
Spice Weasel

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« Reply #37 on: 06-03-2003 22:36 »

What was Leela doing when the Professor announced that the crew were not good enough to take on the mission?  She was lowered from the ceiling on a pulley wearing overalls and safety goggles goggle, what the hell was she up to?
Venus

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« Reply #38 on: 06-03-2003 23:26 »

i suspected welding.
Spice Weasel

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« Reply #39 on: 06-03-2003 23:43 »
« Last Edit on: 06-03-2003 23:43 »

^ I suspect you are right, since her eyepiece had a very dark tint.


Typical situation. Leela busting her hump welding and Fry & Bender playing virtual golf.   laff
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