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The Hypno Toad

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« on: 05-29-2003 10:23 »

Does anyone Quite understand the concept of dark matter???........ i see how the molecules could be highly compact, yet i still dont see how It could be so heavy......... and i also dont see how Nibbler "creates" the dark matter.....  confused


That`s not Jesus!  It`s Rob Zombie!

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« Reply #1 on: 05-29-2003 10:47 »
« Last Edit on: 05-29-2003 10:47 »

If dark matter is super-dense, then it could have the same mass as a much larger object.  One explanation for dark matter is that it's actually neutron stars, stars that might have the same mass as our sun but have the size of a city.

That's just one possible explanation for what dark matter is.  No one is quite sure because only its effects can be seen, not the matter itself.

Since Nibbler eats so much and his poop is relatively small, he must somehow compress it, making it super-dense.  Of course, he still weighs the same no matter how much he's eaten.  Somehow he keeps himself light while there's hundereds of pounds of food inside of him.

In the commentary for season 1, they explain that they decided to make dark matter the fuel for starships because it's real but no one knows much about it.  Therefore they could assign any properties to it they wanted and it wouldn't be inaccurate.
Gocad

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« Reply #2 on: 05-29-2003 10:49 »
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*thinks of Star Trek and Stephen Hawking*

One day someone will write a book called "The Physics of Futurama" and explain it all.    wink
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« Reply #3 on: 05-29-2003 12:03 »
« Last Edit on: 05-29-2003 12:03 »

Matter is mostly empty space filled with tiny, very dense "things" (protons, neutrons, electrons, etc.)  The important thing to remember is that repellent forces are keeping these subatomic particles away from each other (on a tiny, but relatively huge scale).  If you can exert enough force to overcome the repellent forces, you can bring the particles close enough together that they end up bonding (due to other forces).  You eliminate all the empty space and have nothing but concentrated particles - very heavy and very small.

As for how Nibbler craps the stuff, I'm guessing wizzards.

Edited to fix some small typos (and make some others)
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #4 on: 05-29-2003 12:05 »

That is a book that i may buy.......
Teral

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« Reply #5 on: 05-29-2003 12:39 »

The funny thing is, the gravity aspect of super-heavy dark matter is completely ignored. Something that dense and heavy should exact some measurable gravity. Particular on Vergon 6, yet all the animals act as if they've evolved on a planet with standard gravity.

It violates one of laws of thermodynamics (don't ask my which one) as well. As matter is pressed together, it's temperature should rise accordingly. So yes, Nibbler could compact his poop, it would just be a very heavy (as seen) and extremely hot piece of poop.
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #6 on: 05-29-2003 12:43 »

hmmm..... interesting...... someone needs to write a book like that........
Teral

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« Reply #7 on: 05-29-2003 13:18 »

"Nitpickers Guide to Futurama"?

Before anyone start talking about being overly critical. The idea of Nitpicking, as I understand it, is not to pick the show apart, but to have fun with finding stuff like this.

Rule #1 for nitpickers: "All nitpickers shall perform their duties with lightheartedness and good cheer". The whole idea about nitpicking is having fun with ones favorite tv shows, not about pointing fingers, assigning blame or feeling smug.

Ofcourse dissenters exist in all groupings.
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« Reply #8 on: 05-29-2003 15:19 »

Nit-picking?  By nerds?  What kind of crazy upside down world is this?

Move -> Nitpicker's forum.
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« Reply #9 on: 05-29-2003 15:28 »

The good kind of crazy upside down world.
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« Reply #10 on: 05-29-2003 15:43 »

Anyway, regarding the creaton of dark matter - a reminder that Nibbler can eat several elephant-sized creatures in one sitting.  What do you think happens to all that waste?
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #11 on: 05-29-2003 15:55 »

well, i can eat alot of Large animals and i dont crap out dark matter........ so.......
Gocad

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« Reply #12 on: 05-29-2003 17:15 »

 
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Anyway, regarding the creaton of dark matter - a reminder that Nibbler can eat several elephant-sized creatures in one sitting.  What do you think happens to all that waste?

The more interesting question is:
Where does he store them before turning them into Dark Matter, or are they turned instandly into Dark Matter, and wouldn't that mean that Dark Matter actually consists of dead animals?
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #13 on: 05-29-2003 17:49 »

well, i think that dark matter Must be made from dead animals, considering that all petroleum products were origional living creatures.

Also, i would assume that it takes alot to make dark matter, even though Nibbler must eat only about 40 Hams a day, and also, why would these future people be eating giant bugs (Buggalo) when there are Hams?...... must be a paradox.....
zozer

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« Reply #14 on: 05-29-2003 18:01 »

in the why of fry, fry said it waid as much as a 1000 suns. i dont know if that is exaggeration or not. a teaspoon of a nutron star weighs about 10 tons, so nibblers crap would be, by far the most dense matter. one piece of his crap would distort the space-time continum like a black hole, if not worse. but then again, its just a cartoon.(in case you were wondering, i read stephen hawking).
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« Reply #15 on: 05-29-2003 18:04 »

 
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well, i think that dark matter Must be made from dead animals, considering that all petroleum products were origional living creatures.
Dark matter is extremely differnet to petrol
 
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Also, i would assume that it takes alot to make dark matter, even though Nibbler must eat only about 40 Hams a day, and also, why would these future people be eating giant bugs (Buggalo) when there are Hams?...... must be a paradox.....
Maybe because of how good they are? They're about 5 different things in one!
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« Reply #16 on: 05-30-2003 01:17 »

 
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Someone Please Keep Zozer away from my threads...........

You can do it yourself.  Wanna know how?  STOP MAKING THREADS.  That way, we ALL win.

Anyway, if we're done being stupid . . . (fat chance, I know)

 
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Originally posted by The Hypno Toad:
well, i can eat alot of Large animals and i dont crap out dark matter........ so.......

So you're saying you can eat an elephant-sized critter in three gulps?  This I gotta see.

 
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Where does he store them before turning them into Dark Matter, or are they turned instandly into Dark Matter, and wouldn't that mean that Dark Matter actually consists of dead animals?

I've always thought that a seperate dimension exists, linked ot our dimension through Nibblonian stomachs and Bender's chest cavity.

 
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its just a cartoon

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Gocad

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« Reply #17 on: 05-30-2003 05:50 »

 
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in the why of fry, fry said it waid as much as a 1000 suns.

Well dark matter is extremly dense, however it doesn't seem to bother Nibbler...

Maybe the Nibblonians have a phased stomach...
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« Reply #18 on: 05-30-2003 09:54 »

I understand the concept that the show is a cartoon, and that overanalysis just ruins it.
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #19 on: 05-30-2003 10:42 »

overanalysis never destroies a show, mabye discredited it...... but never ruin it.....
JDHannan

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« Reply #20 on: 05-30-2003 21:32 »

Leela got a cute little buddy that excretes starship fuel, and in the end, isn't that all that matters?
zozer

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« Reply #21 on: 05-30-2003 21:41 »

yup.
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #22 on: 05-30-2003 22:22 »

nope ( and i win because i have a higher rank  big grin )
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« Reply #23 on: 05-30-2003 22:49 »
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^ you only have a higher rank 'cause you flooded PEEL with your evil spam.
EVIL SPAM!!!!  mad
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #24 on: 05-30-2003 22:50 »

Kiss my ass Dr.............
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« Reply #25 on: 05-31-2003 00:42 »

I must agree with the Dr
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« Reply #26 on: 05-31-2003 01:59 »

 
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Kiss my ass Dr.............

Please stop saying that. No one wants anything to do with your butt so pull your pants up. The way you state your opinions are quite rude too.

I know, I know.  roll eyes
Gocad

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« Reply #27 on: 05-31-2003 05:23 »

 
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Kiss my ass Dr.............

uh, sparks...

aside from that, a higher rank doesn't mean anything, which is a sad thing in this case, because otherwise .... well, a man can dream, a man can dream.
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« Reply #28 on: 05-31-2003 05:50 »

Personally, I think that The Hypno Toad doesn't give a rat's ass about the whole Dark Matter concept, and this thread is just more of his spam, only seemingly intelligent.
Gocad

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« Reply #29 on: 05-31-2003 06:17 »

 
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nope ( and i win because i have a higher rank   big grin )

and if I were a vengeful god I'd smite thee with my divine might where you stand, but since I'm not I can't, but I would if I were.
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #30 on: 05-31-2003 10:06 »

Key word there is IF
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« Reply #31 on: 05-31-2003 11:19 »
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Question - Why does every weird scenes thread descend into chaos? (that was rhetorical)

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The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #32 on: 05-31-2003 11:22 »

be quiet sheep............ and lets stick to the Topik, if u aint got nuttin to say about dark matter.....then shut the hell up.....  big grin

I can`t imagine to be like you, the pain and the suffering you put me through.........
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« Reply #33 on: 05-31-2003 11:33 »
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Originally posted by The Hypno Toad:
be quiet sheep............ and lets stick to the Topik, if u aint got nuttin to say about dark matter.....then shut the hell up.....    big grin


 
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Originally posted by The Hypno Toad:
Kiss my ass Dr...........

...because "Kiss my ass Dr" has lots to do with dark matter....(sensing this topic is going to get closed very, very soon.)


 
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nope ( and i win because i have a higher rank   big grin )

By your logic, ditto.
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #34 on: 05-31-2003 11:40 »

like i said, please stik to the topik........and no, i dont feel like quoting myself......
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« Reply #35 on: 05-31-2003 12:18 »

dark matter is just nibblers poop  roll eyes
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #36 on: 05-31-2003 14:05 »

Wow, Terry......you are like.......SOOO.....smart.... .. when did you pass pre-school?.......lol....  big grin
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« Reply #37 on: 05-31-2003 17:47 »

 
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Wow, Terry......you are like.......SOOO.....smart.... .. when did you pass pre-school?.......lol....   big grin

Oh yea, you can talk. You open a thread about Dark Matter, don't know what Zoidberg is, know very little about Futurama in general and then flame us for knowing stuff and foiling your plot. I just wish [-mArc-] did something like reset your post count or ban you.
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« Reply #38 on: 05-31-2003 18:21 »
« Last Edit on: 05-31-2003 18:21 »

Ban the IP! Ban the IP!

Edit: Post 450! 50 more to go...
The Hypno Toad

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« Reply #39 on: 05-31-2003 18:37 »

what the hell is everyones problem with me???............. seriously...... what the hell did i do???
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