Stuff in [4ACV09] "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles"

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Something that made me wonder. When Leela prepares to jump into the Fountain of Aging, Farnsy yells that she can't give up her childhood, that she'll never have another chance at it.

Did I miss something? Did the youth-a-size-center go out of business? What stops Leela from taking another dib in the youth-mud, and then return to the fountain if she want to grow up again?

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Dramatic effect.

Why does Farnsworth have nuclear powered teeth? At the restaurant, he has a pair of teeth already in his mouth, yet he pulls out the fake set.

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also end of ep with that farnsie's animal is confusing

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Maybe you can only get dipped in the tar once or your brain explodes....

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Originally posted by winna:
Maybe you can only get dipped in the tar once or your brain explodes....

According to Farnsworth, the 'de-aging tar' works by virtue of it's being saturated with chronoton particles.
Wasn't the PE crew exposed to chronotons in TKOS?
If a second exposure to these particles is gravely harmfull, wouldn't the PE crew have been adversly affected by ther tar? That was their second exposure.
And by 'gravely' I mean an immediate threat to life or health.
Or perhaps, as with presently understood radiation*, chronoton exposure doesn't produce ill effects untill the body has absorbed a certain amount. For nuclear radiation, the threshold is 100-200 mRads, IIRC.
Possibly, the PE crew hadn't received that threshold exposure yet.

*Alpha-particles, Beta-particles, X & Gamma-ratiation, etc.

Hm. Am I a geek, or what?
 

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Maybe it's just really, really expensive. The Professor can afford the treatment because of his vast wealth, but Leela doesn't make nearly enough.

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Originally posted by Kryten:
Maybe it's just really, really expensive. The Professor can afford the treatment because of his vast wealth, but Leela doesn't make nearly enough.

She could steal money. If she really wanted another chance, she could do it just fine.
Besides, I don't think the PE staff got the professor to pay for a treatment he didn't want in the first place. (They had to force him, remember?)


 

Originally posted by evan:
Why does Farnsworth have nuclear powered teeth? At the restaurant, he has a pair of teeth already in his mouth, yet he pulls out the fake set.

Because his jaw isn't strong enough to chew meat.

Oh, and did anyone notice that he stuck the straw in the mashed potatoes, and then said, "Damn good meat!"?

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BIMD - Because it's more dramatic. The future episodes would have been boring if she went back to the spa.

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No, they would have been more cute if she went back.

They followed Rule of Sitcoms #1: At the end of the episode, everything must be essentially the same as at the beginning, with very rare exceptions.

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Was i the only one who thought that tar pit was destroyed?  That could be why Leela can't get re-youthasized.
Leela couldn't steal.  She is too good.

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Well, there was this framegrab:

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Uh... so?

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That ranks up with the most inane image posts of mpoop

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I think it shows that the tar pit has expanded across the entire planet - the black splotches. So she could fly the PE ship to the planet and dip herself in the immense amount of tar for free.

You've unproved your point.

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Originally posted by SQFreak:
I think it shows that the tar pit has expanded across the entire planet - the black splotches. So she could fly the PE ship to the planet and dip herself in the immense amount of tar for free.

You've unproved your point.

IIRC, the youth-a-sizing tar pit was on an asteroid, not the planet pictured above. The planet was near the fountain of aging.
As to the pit being destroyed, the pit may have been destroyed, but the tar was not; and the tar was responsible for the de-aging effects.
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Okay, so, the point is still unproven.

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Perhaps one reason she might not have gone back is she would have had to give up her job as a captin working with one of her BEST FRIENDS hint hint.

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Hermes?

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now u know n I know that is not the person. After reading your profile, hope u dont mind my doing so, I think its safe to say Leela is one of your fav chrs on the show. So I think Im gonna let you figure it out which Im sure you have by now.

On a side note Ive also noticed Leela seems to have another secret lust/vice that would be more apparent if they showd an ep that they havent yet. Anyway just thought you might want to think about that one.

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Small joke from "War Is The H-Word" there. 

 

After reading your profile, hope u dont mind my doing so

Nah, that's why it's there.

Secret vice? Well, she did partake in wild hedonism when she were younger, and have said she'd give into urges far more shocking than just dating your primary means of transportation. So nothing would surprise me there.

Oh, and she's a beer drinker. That makes her one classy lady in my book.

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ok, no this one going to be a bit more diffucult to pick up on if your not used to having a mother whos taken phycoliogy classes in collage so I always here her talking about people there habits what makes em tick n all that crap. As a matter of fact I think Ill take some of those classes this summer seems knowing these kinds of thinks can be quite fun and useful.
Anyway I dont remember any eps where Leela drank beer so that is news to me. Im guessing she hasnt n that u glimpsed my profile n put that there to try n mess with my mind.
About the secret vice/lust n Im going to add tendancey to that / list because it would also work. Based on what you have just posted it sounds like you probably know what it is, but dont tell anyone just yet I wanna see if anyone else figures it out n comes to the same conclushion.

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No messing. Both "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles" and "The Route of All Evil" clearly show that Leela is into beer.

Show spoiler

(while shopping for beer in TROAE)
"Hey-hey-heyy! We can all fight when we're drunk! Now listen why don't we just brew our own beer."

(when Fry say he'll visit teenage Leela in the sewer again in TMLH)
"Bring beer."

Although I did glance at your profile.   

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I also made another assumtion n thats that whoever came up with the idea of Leelas char in the show might also have been a fan of Homer.

add 5 min later/ I just realized something that I dont know how I missed. Now I can Im almost certan that the creater of Leela was a fan of Homer
Picking away at minds is proving most intertaining.

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im completely confused. i wanna know this secret vice and i want the homer thing explained to me.

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Ill give everyone about 12 more hours to think about this one then Ill lay down my shocking conclushion to all of this. I just want to give people more time to think about it in hopes someone else will be able to see all the connections.

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Ok Im going crazy trying to keep this a secret n Im going to tell everyone now what the secret vice/lust is so stop reading if you are still trying to figure it out for your self.

Ok we should all know by now that Leela has a secret crush/thing for Fry.
I think I have evidance that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that she has another darker deeper secret. Now I think she has a secret blood lust or at the very least violant tendancies. Let me explain. Bolth of Leelas secrets become most noticable in the ep with the "what if machine" yea the one where they ask what if she was a little more impulsive. During that ep she kills everyone of her co-workers ex for Fry who she ends up doing the dirty with. Then there was another ep the one where Fry got worms n needless to say Leela liked how they changed him alot. Well it just so happens she destoryd all the mini robots of the Professor, Amy, Zoidberg, Hermes, and I think thats all of em. Also notice she seems more prone to violance then anyone else on the show. I also forgot about the other "what if Mechine deal" where she seemed very happy to steal the shoes of the corpse of the wich she crushed n even more happy to have the chance to become a wicked wich. As someone else pointed out in another post she also seems  to like to have dangerous animals as pets.
Ok now to the Homer thing n this is where I take things to that higher level of thinking. When I said Homer I was not talking about the Homer off of the Simpsons.
As we know the creaters of the Simpsons where behind the creation of Futurama. It just so happens theres another story I remember with a evil cyclopse in it. Homer's Odassy. Im sure we all know about the cyclopse in that story that fed on human flesh. We know Matt G. made a ep of the Simpsons about that very same story!!! N it also just so happens he has also given some of his other chrs secret evils take Maggie from the Simpsons for example she ends up shooting people n who would have suspected n she didnt even display any of the evil tendancys before hand.

I'll finnish by saying, no this isnt a for sure thing but based on these findings I think if Futurama had not been canceled not only would Leela have probably gone with Fry but I think she would have done something evil perhaps even killing someone n thats if she doesnt in the eps we havnt seen yet.

Side note Im not sure wether the evil Cyclopse was in the Odassy or the Lilied. All I now is it was a work of Homer u know the guy who lived 1000s of years ago.

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Originally posted by The Names Nick:

I think I have evidance that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that she has another darker deeper secret. Now I think she has a secret blood lust or at the very least violant tendancies. [..explanation/listing of everything Leela has ever done..]

Thanks, Eagle-eye. It's not like she hasn't said so herself in the episode Less Than Hero or anything...

 

Ok now to the Homer thing n this is where I take things to that higher level of thinking. When I said Homer I was not talking about the Homer off of the Simpsons.
As we know the creaters of the Simpsons where behind the creation of Futurama. It just so happens theres another story I remember with a evil cyclopse in it. Homer's Odassy. Im sure we all know about the cyclopse in that story that fed on human flesh. We know Matt G. made a ep of the Simpsons about that very same story!!! N it also just so happens he has also given some of his other chrs secret evils take Maggie from the Simpsons for example she ends up shooting people n who would have suspected n she didnt even display any of the evil tendancys before hand.

I'll finnish by saying, no this isnt a for sure thing but based on these findings I think if Futurama had not been canceled not only would Leela have probably gone with Fry but I think she would have done something evil perhaps even killing someone n thats if she doesnt in the eps we havnt seen yet.

Side note Im not sure wether the evil Cyclopse was in the Odassy or the Lilied. All I now is it was a work of Homer u know the guy who lived 1000s of years ago.

I don't think it required that much of an imagination by the Simpsons writers to have Homer in an ancient Greek setting for an episode (though 'Discus' Stu was pure genius  ). I don't know how closely you have been following Futurama, but Leela attacks someone in every other episode - be it Zapp, peace officers or Beastie Boys concert goers. This is not a very 'hidden' aspect of Leela's character! Quite contrarily, it was one of the first traits we got to know about her, along with her emotional connection with Fry.
Sorry for trying to pick apart your reasoning, but you have to come up with something better than "Leela has violent tendencies" as the dark deeper secret...   

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First off it seems like u know what the secret is if so Id like to know what you think it is so I can see how close I was. As for how closely I watch the show, well Ive probably seen all but 2 aired eps at least once n most of the ones they air on CN I have seen twice. Theres a problem though I dont have any dvds or anything so I cant go back n watch the eps closely which means I have to go by what I can remember about each. This presents a real problem as my memory has never been that good so Im sure I missed things, but tryd to cover as many of the key things as I could remember. Now about violant tendancies I used that because I knew I could prove that n that everyone else would be able to see that I then pointed out some other things that hinted at something worse that boiled benith the surface I used blood lust to discribe it even though I knew that wasnt the best word to use it I didnt want to use just plain evil to discribe it as I dont think thats what it is though it might be that simple. Now the big question remains what is it? Well sence Im not a shrink I dont think I can use the fancy medical words best suited to discribe what that secret is. I just wanted everyone to see that theres something there n how I was able to tell that that was the case.
Also feel free to tell me what ya think it is I look forward to seeing how close or far off I was.

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Hey, I know a secret about Zoidberg! Can you guess what it is?

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Zoidberg is hungry.

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Ok this is about Leela, but no I cant think of what it is off the top of my head, but plz if u are going to do a thing about Zoidberg, make a post about his secret n tell us what you think it is n why n Ill be sure to check it out.

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im not a shrink either but i'm gonna give this a shot. Leela was raised in an environment where she was loved and wanted by no one and harassed and hated by everyone. With all the hate pouring in on her from all sides and no real affection, well of course she's gonna soak a little of that up. Any kid would. She was never really given a reason to trust people and when she does, 9 times out of 10 they hurt her. Like Adlai, alkazar, sean, and more then likely, the guy that she's supposed to be dating tonight. i think she uses violence as a way to protect her emotions. Instead of allowing herself to be sad, which she probably views as a sort of weakness people could potentially use against her, she turns it into anger. it's a learned behavior, a coping device, and since she's been using it for most of her life it's become so ingrained in her personality that she wouldn't be able to stop herself even if she wanted to. She's always been an action oriented person, she doesn't just sit around and wait for things to happen she puts herself out there and takes control of the situation, and that part of her personality would make it even easier for those violent tendencies to show themselves. it's not real bloodlust and its certainly not evil, it's something she had to learn as a child just to make it through the day-to-day. It's one of those nature-vs-nurture things.

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sounds good it will be interesting to see if in the "Why Of Fry" the pattern holds true. I just wish they would just go on n show us the rest of the unseen eps n maybe something else would show up that would reinforce the fact that theres more to it than that.

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::reads Venus' post, agress with it completely::

Leela's has a wellknown willingness to clobber to solve situations. When pushed, or if she feel she's been treated unfairly, she has no seconds thoughts about using brute, physical force. Stems right back to her Arcturan Kung-Fu classes. While a kid, she discovered that the only time people respected her was when she posed a physical threat to them, otherwise she was just an object of ridicule.

But Leela would never, NEVER, beat up someone just for fun. Never. She doesn't find pleasure in beating people up. The situations where we've seen her use force, she'd been provoked, ridiculed or ignored.

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Originally posted by Kryten:
Hey, I know a secret about Zoidberg! Can you guess what it is?

Show spoiler

Zoidberg is hungry.

Worst secret ever.

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::agrees with Teral::

that's probably why she started taking those kung-fu lessons to begin with. To keep people from messing with her. Your much less likely to go out of your way to harass a kid that can take you out without even standing up.

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Originally posted by The Names Nick:
Side note Im not sure wether the evil Cyclopse was in the Odassy or the Lilied. All I now is it was a work of Homer u know the guy who lived 1000s of years ago.

trying to read your posts makes my eyes bleed and my brain blow up. . . are you related to nurdbot?

something that's been bothering me about this episode... Is Hermes the same age as the rest of the PE crew? I always thought he was older and yet when they de-age he seems to be on the same track as the rest of them... I hope someone got fired for that one.

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zoidburg is way older too and he was deaging at the same speed as everyone else

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Here's a crazy theory: the mud, doesn't deage you a set number of years, but a percentage.

Fry start out as 27-28 years, and right after he comes up, his age is 14. Leela looks 14-15 too. Amy looks more like around 11, or something. All indicate a 50% loss of age.

Hermes have a son, Dwight, who looks 12-13, making Hermes in his mid-thirties. Half that, and he'll be around 17. Maybe a bit on the high side, but Hermes does look slightly older than Fry and Leela in this shot:



Farnsworth went from 160 to 53, a loss of 66%. Could correspond nicely with him sitting in less-concentrated mud for a few minutes prior to the cave-in.

Just a theory, but we gotta save the man's job.

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More like 161, loser!!! (*nerdy laugh*)!!! Victory is mine!!!

*flies off in a Defiant class starship*  .

Just kidding.

I'd be flying a Prometheus class  .

So far I think the "maximum exposure" theory works out best. This would explain why, even though the Professor (and the others) are still half coated in tar, they are not still getting younger.

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Originally posted by Venus:
zoidburg is way older too and he was deaging at the same speed as everyone else

Do we know how old Zoidberg is?
He's an alien, therefore his age is not measureable by human standards...
Also, keep in mind, that Zoidberg sometimes(?) acts like a child...
(like a retarded four year old as they said in the commentary for AoI1)