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HawkingHole4001

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« on: 03-26-2003 21:09 »

Here we go...


I might be wrong, we'll all see THE TRUTH in about 2 weeks in the episode "The Why Of Fry".
Venus

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« Reply #1 on: 03-27-2003 00:00 »

nibbler can't have existed since the begining of time. the've already established that he's 5 years old. However the nibblonian race has existed for 17 years longer then the beginning of time so i bet you anything it was simply a different nibblonian. i do agree with your theory that he was on Vergon 6 on purpose however.
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« Reply #2 on: 03-27-2003 00:46 »

If fry is there to watch himself fall into the freezer-doodle, then its likely that he and nibbler travelled through time, dont believe there are 2 frys in the room, look closely at the flashback footage in Jurasic Bark
PCC Fred

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« Reply #3 on: 03-27-2003 05:51 »

You know the Nibblonian shadow in "Space Pilot 3000"?  Well I'm pretty sure it's not there in "Jurassic Bark".  I think the Brain Spawn'll try to change history by taking out the Nibblonian in SP3000, forcing Fry and Nibbler to travel to 1999 and sort out the mess.
Gocad

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« Reply #4 on: 03-27-2003 07:13 »
« Last Edit on: 03-27-2003 07:13 »

   
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Originally posted by Venus:
the've already established that he's 5 years old.

I think one should not put to much confindence in that statement.

Maybe time isn't linear for the Nibblonians...


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Teral

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« Reply #5 on: 03-27-2003 10:09 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
nibbler can't have existed since the begining of time. the've already established that he's 5 years old.

Said by a ditzy veterinarian, who might've taken one too many gazelle kicks to the head.

Also it would only be true if Nibbler was anything like a common tree, so I wouldn't put to much faith in that.

I agree with the idea that Nibbler wasn't on Vergon 6, by pure chance. In "The Day Earth Stood Stupid" he is called "Lord Nibbler, Ambassador to Earth, home of the pizza bagel". I think Nibblers primary task is to protect Fry, and warn the Nibblonians when the Brain Spawn arrives. Going to Vergon 6 was just an oppurtunity presenting itself, and Nibbler grabbed it.

Since he hasn't much else to do, but getting tummy rubs by one-eyed, alien babes, he doubles as Nibblonian ambassador to Earth as well.

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred*:
You know the Nibblonian shadow in "Space Pilot 3000"? Well I'm pretty sure it's not there in "Jurassic Bark".

No, but a Nibblonian eye is seen in the trash can.

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DoctorIn

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« Reply #6 on: 03-27-2003 10:38 »

Nibbler: In the time it would take to pronounce     one letter of my true name a trillion cosmoses would flare into existence and sink into eternal night.

Wouldn't we have to assume that in order for Nibbler to know his real name, it would have to have been spoken at some point. Thus, we can conclude he is at least as old as the average lifetime of a trillion cosmoses. Unless, of course, the Nibblonians are prone to hyperbole.
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« Reply #7 on: 03-27-2003 10:51 »

Even more than that because he says to pronounce one letter of his name and we would assume that his name consists of more than one letter.... I think some sort of time travel seems the most probable since I think I saw Fry's shadow.
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« Reply #8 on: 03-27-2003 10:59 »

He did say that he use the name Nibbler for Leela's sake, because ..blahblah-trillion comsoses-blahblah..., wouldn't that indicate thatLeela would be unable to pronouce his real name, but Nibbler could do it easily. What intelligent race give themself names they can't pronounce?
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« Reply #9 on: 03-27-2003 11:14 »

He didn't say he couldn't pronounce it, just that it would take a very long time.
Gocad

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« Reply #10 on: 03-27-2003 13:38 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
He did say that he use the name Nibbler for Leela's sake, because ..blahblah-trillion comsoses-blahblah..., wouldn't that indicate thatLeela would be unable to pronouce his real name, but Nibbler could do it easily. What intelligent race give themself names they can't pronounce?

Obviously you're not intelligent enough to understand that.
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FrysGIRL

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« Reply #11 on: 03-27-2003 20:15 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
You know the Nibblonian shadow in "Space Pilot 3000"?  Well I'm pretty sure it's not there in "Jurassic Bark".  I think the Brain Spawn'll try to change history by taking out the Nibblonian in SP3000, forcing Fry and Nibbler to travel to 1999 and sort out the mess.


God, that would make for a great episode.
Killerfox

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« Reply #12 on: 03-27-2003 20:20 »

i definitely think that nibbler was one of the first nibblonians cuz you can see in "the day the earth stood supid" that the nibblonians have a big respect for him.
Gocad

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« Reply #13 on: 03-28-2003 02:16 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
You know the Nibblonian shadow in "Space Pilot 3000"?  Well I'm pretty sure it's not there in "Jurassic Bark".  I think the Brain Spawn'll try to change history by taking out the Nibblonian in SP3000, forcing Fry and Nibbler to travel to 1999 and sort out the mess.

Sounds like Futurama - First Contact to me.
But might be fun anyway...


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Lurrr

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« Reply #14 on: 03-28-2003 13:05 »

Hi, I'm brand new here but I've got another point to add to this. In 'Anthology of Interest I' in Fry's story he doesn't get knocked into the cryo chamber- but there is no nibblonian shadow either (I've checked this so I'm certain). And as a result of this, Fry destroys the universe- another possibility?
Gocad

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« Reply #15 on: 03-28-2003 14:01 »
« Last Edit on: 03-28-2003 14:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Hi, I'm brand new here but I've got another point to add to this. In 'Anthology of Interest I' in Fry's story he doesn't get knocked into the cryo chamber- but there is no nibblonian shadow either (I've checked this so I'm certain). And as a result of this, Fry destroys the universe- another possibility?

Well, this was some alternate reality, probably one where the Nibblonians didn't exist. Just think of the guy in the tube. He has glasses on, but in the pilot he didn't.

Btw, welcome to PEEL, Lurrr.


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Venus

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« Reply #16 on: 03-29-2003 02:12 »


OMG! now i really can't wait to see this ep!
[-mArc-]

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« Reply #17 on: 03-29-2003 03:25 »

Here's the long description of "The Why of Fry":
Doesn't tell too much regarding the Nibbler thing though.
Venus

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« Reply #18 on: 03-29-2003 03:43 »

and no one could have been happier unless it also would've been a shippy ep......what? it was?...HURRAY!
Gocad

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« Reply #19 on: 03-29-2003 04:23 »

Wow, sounds like a important episode in the history of FUTURAMA.
Now, if only FOX would air this episode soon...


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HawkingHole4001

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« Reply #20 on: 03-29-2003 07:26 »

Thanks for the Info, [-mArc-]!

Also, for those of you who do not believe me Nibbler's existance since the start of time...

His name's LORD Nibbler.
L-O-R-D!
Gocad

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« Reply #21 on: 03-29-2003 11:33 »

 
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Originally posted by HawkingHole4001:
Thanks for the Info, [-mArc-]!

Also, for those of you who do not believe me Nibbler's existance since the start of time...

His name's LORD Nibbler.
L-O-R-D!

So what? Everybody can become a LORD! Even me. But seriously, that doesn't prove anything. LORD Gocad said this.


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SamuelXDiamond

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« Reply #22 on: 03-29-2003 13:31 »

Why was Nibbler on Vergon 6? Because if he wasn't, then the crew would have been killed when it kerploded. Fry dead=Destruction of universe. There was no way for him to stop them from travelling to the planet, but he could help them to escape. At the expense of a load of animals, of course. This would support the time-travel theory as it would allow Nibbler to know where to be to get picked up.

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HawkingHole4001

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« Reply #23 on: 03-29-2003 13:34 »
« Last Edit on: 03-29-2003 13:34 »

or maybe it WAS A COINCIDENCE Nibbler's shadow appeared.
Teral

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« Reply #24 on: 03-29-2003 14:20 »

Lord, schmord! Today you can buy yourself a title.

Anywho, how I currently see the Nibbler timeline (techinically not a spoiler, but just in case)  tongue :

Ofocurse soemthing might change after "The Why Of Fry".

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Gocad

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« Reply #25 on: 03-29-2003 17:30 »
« Last Edit on: 03-29-2003 17:30 »

@Teral:
Any plot that relies on a time paradox is doomed to fail.
Mark my words, DOOOMED!


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clampybot

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« Reply #26 on: 03-29-2003 17:54 »

The ep is bullshit fox should air the sting over it and pretend that nothing happened. Mwa ha ha.
Gocad

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« Reply #27 on: 03-29-2003 17:59 »

*wonders about clampybot's mental state but says nothing*


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Venus

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« Reply #28 on: 03-29-2003 18:05 »

::edges away from clampybot sobbing::
Teral

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« Reply #29 on: 03-29-2003 18:08 »

::knows clampy's mental state, but is bound by his proffesionel oath of secrecy::

 
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Originally posted by Gocad:
@Teral:
Any plot that relies on a time paradox is doomed to fail.

And that's 50% of the explanation why "Star Trek: Voyager" sucked.
Gocad

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« Reply #30 on: 03-30-2003 03:19 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
::knows clampy's mental state, but is bound by his proffesionel oath of secrecy::

 And that's 50% of the explanation why "Star Trek: Voyager" sucked.

True.
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CyberKnight

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« Reply #31 on: 03-30-2003 11:18 »

No, they didn't even NEED paradoxes to screw up Voyager. They had the magical Reset Button (TM) to do it for them.

Strangely enough, "Year of Hell" (a 4th Season ep) is usually regarded as one of the best Voyager eps by many people (even non-Voyager fans), and that involves a paradox.

Your explanation is intriguing, Teral.

BTW, I'm certain Nibbler's shadow is in Jurassic Bark, PCC Fred.
Venus

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« Reply #32 on: 03-30-2003 11:29 »

hey Voyager wasn't THAT bad. my kitten is named after a voyager character
Gocad

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« Reply #33 on: 03-30-2003 11:40 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
hey Voyager wasn't THAT bad. my kitten is named after a voyager character

It was. End of discussion!

Poor kitten. Which name has it anyway?


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Venus

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« Reply #34 on: 03-30-2003 14:59 »

Seven of Nines human name. Anica
Hodgie64

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« Reply #35 on: 03-30-2003 21:02 »

If you think about it, then there probably is a reason why the person in the Cryo tube that Fry wipes is different in AOI1 than SP3000, from a budget perspective, if there was no need to re-animate this scene then they would just of cut the footage straight from SP3000, as would of saved a fair bit of cash...the real question in this ep is if Fry didnt go to the year 3000, how did Bender (who would of used the suicide booth) and Leela (who never would of quit) wind up with Zoidberg & The Proffesor?
Lurrr

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« Reply #36 on: 03-31-2003 08:25 »

There are many reasons why Voyager sucked. Mainly because Gene Roddenberry wasn't inolved in making it. And on the subject of time travel, isn't Enterprise falling into exactly the same trap?

@Godcad: Thanks for the welcome btw!
Teral

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« Reply #37 on: 03-31-2003 10:17 »

Never seen Enterprise, but I'm told it's disappointing.

Gene wasn't really involved in DS9 either, and some say he was against the idea, and look what a marvelous show that was.

But, uhh, back on track.

Too bad Nibbler didn't fall into the youth-mud in the last ep, we could've gotten an indication as to what his real age is.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #38 on: 04-02-2003 18:40 »

Well, I've been thinking about it, and here's my opinion on what I would like to happen.

Not-real-but-potential-spoilers-ahead:


And Voyager wasn't that bad, it just got ruined after the end of Season Four. "Unity" was a great Borg ep (as were the two "Scorpion" eps) as was "Year of Hell" ).

I quite like Enterprise; but then I'm not one of those people who believes every single fact has to match already given facts (I love trying to explain them away  big grin).

As for DS9, I don't know why, but I'm not too keen on it. I recognise it's a great show and it deserves better than to be ignored, but there's just something about it which I can't pin down which I don't like as much as I did about Voyager's early years. It's probably due to a hard-core set of DS9 fans who go around saying DS9 is the best Trek series ever (without the IMO quantifier  wink) - an accolade I feel should go to TNG.

And in an attempt to get back on topic, I guess we'll find out the answer to "The Why of Fry" queries this Sunday (hopefully).
McGrady

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« Reply #39 on: 04-02-2003 18:52 »

I think it would be sorta ironic if future Fry was the one who ordered the pizza, since he said in SP3000, "I always thought that by this point of my life, I would be the one making the crank calls."
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