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UnrealLegend

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« Reply #160 on: 08-29-2013 05:00 »

The chronology of 7A is totally screwed up. D3012 takes place in September, ZD takes place in March, and FoaB takes place (mostly) in October.

That doesn't add up!
AFTA is December, I think
That would match the 2012 phenomenon, but I don't think there's anything to actually prove it.
DannyJC13

Space Pope
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« Reply #161 on: 09-05-2013 19:02 »

Not really a goof, but Ultra Guy doesn't seem to notice that a large amount of his coals have disappeared every time he opens the box for Fry and Bender. tongue
Lost My Phone

Professor
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« Reply #162 on: 09-05-2013 19:33 »
« Last Edit on: 09-06-2013 18:44 »

The PE crew always seem to remember who Scruffy is now (even though that's not really a goof).
DannyJC13

Space Pope
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« Reply #163 on: 09-05-2013 20:05 »
« Last Edit on: 09-05-2013 20:08 »

When Leela presses the time button to rescue Fry for the first time, the blue aura appears around her and Fry, and the button ends up back next to Fry while he is falling, is that a goof or not?

I'm going to assume that if someone else had hold of the button within the 10 seconds before you press it, it'll go back into their hands? However, that rule seems to only apply to the button, not with any other object. That'd explain how it got back next to Fry and why the aura appears around him.
Eternium

Professor
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« Reply #164 on: 09-05-2013 22:36 »

I guess that was just neccesairy for the plot, you explanation seems very right tough too.
Quantum Neutrino Field

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #165 on: 09-06-2013 00:49 »
« Last Edit on: 09-06-2013 01:35 »

Hmm, it's definitely a goof, it's not even necessary to plot if you ask me.

No, wait, this becomes very confusing... Everything reverts back (including the person who pushed the button), except some objects(?) and the inside of time shelter. I guess they didn't think it through. no no
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #166 on: 09-06-2013 01:25 »

No, it's not a goof. Remember, Fry fell for over 10 seconds. And when Leela got it and pressed it, everything goes back to the position that they were in back 10 seconds before. It showed you that in the beginning with the Professor. It was frankly quite well-done and smart.
FutureMike17

Bending Unit
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« Reply #167 on: 09-06-2013 01:29 »

No, it's not a goof. Remember, Fry fell for over 10 seconds. And when Leela got it and pressed it, everything goes back to the position that they were in back 10 seconds before. It showed you that in the beginning with the Professor. It was frankly quite well-done and smart.

But the time button was in the time bubble thing so it wouldn't of gone back 10 seconds.
Quantum Neutrino Field

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #168 on: 09-06-2013 01:32 »
« Last Edit on: 09-06-2013 01:34 »

But the time button was in the time bubble thing so it wouldn't of gone back 10 seconds.
Even though things are inside the bubble, they will still revert 10 seconds.

But (in that case) what doesn't make sense, is that how the 10$ bill and diamonds didn't go back.
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #169 on: 09-06-2013 01:34 »

The PE crew always seem to remember who Scruffy is now.

Not a goof. Frankly, that joke was getting stale and I'm glad it was ditched.
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #170 on: 09-06-2013 01:51 »

But the time button was in the time bubble thing so it wouldn't of gone back 10 seconds.
Even though things are inside the bubble, they will still revert 10 seconds.

But (in that case) what doesn't make sense, is that how the 10$ bill and diamonds didn't go back.
The $10 bill was destroyed, or went to the different axis thingy the professor mentioned. Because remember what the Professor said about being in the Time Shelter and not escaping during the time Fry was falling? And the diamonds not going back is a goof. Not a significant goof, but a minor small one.
FutureMike17

Bending Unit
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« Reply #171 on: 09-06-2013 01:54 »

But the time button was in the time bubble thing so it wouldn't of gone back 10 seconds.
Even though things are inside the bubble, they will still revert 10 seconds.

But (in that case) what doesn't make sense, is that how the 10$ bill and diamonds didn't go back.
The $10 bill was destroyed, or went to the different axis thingy the professor mentioned. Because remember what the Professor said about being in the Time Shelter and not escaping during the time Fry was falling? And the diamonds not going back is a goof. Not a significant goof, but a minor small one.

I think QNF was talking about when Zoidberg handed The Professor the $10 and The Professor kept it with him even though he didn't have it 10 seconds ago.

(Sorry QNF if thats not what you meant)
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #172 on: 09-06-2013 01:56 »

You know what, I think only the time button and living creatures will swap it's place 10 seconds back, and not any other objects.
Quantum Neutrino Field

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #173 on: 09-06-2013 02:02 »

I think QNF was talking about when Zoidberg handed The Professor the $10 and The Professor kept it with him even though he didn't have it 10 seconds ago.
Yes, exactly.


You know what, I think only the time button and living creatures will swap it's place 10 seconds back, and not any other objects.

Clothes, etc.?
Well, basically that could be the case, but it doesn't actually make sense.
DannyJC13

Space Pope
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« Reply #174 on: 09-06-2013 18:39 »

You know what, I think only the time button and living creatures will swap it's place 10 seconds back, and not any other objects.

I think I'm gonna go with this. Any object will stay with you but the button itself (unless, of course, you were the one holding it 10 seconds ago anyway).
totalnerduk

DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #175 on: 09-06-2013 18:49 »

But the time button was in the time bubble thing so it wouldn't of gone back 10 seconds.
Even though things are inside the bubble, they will still revert 10 seconds.

But (in that case) what doesn't make sense, is that how the 10$ bill and diamonds didn't go back.

They travel back ten seconds, but don't revert. They remain in the state that they were in before the button was pressed, since they are in the bubble.

The button itself will obviously travel to wherever it was ten seconds ago. Normally this would be in the hand of the person pressing it, but as we see with Fry falling, this might not be the case, and the button goes back to where it was ten seconds ago. The contents of the bubble it creates are not "reverted".

Therefore the $10 bill stays in the bubble, as do the diamonds. It isn't a goof.

You know what, I think only the time button and living creatures will swap it's place 10 seconds back, and not any other objects.

I think I'm gonna go with this. Any object will stay with you but the button itself (unless, of course, you were the one holding it 10 seconds ago anyway).

Danny has it right. Snakey, not so much.
Quantum Neutrino Field

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #176 on: 09-06-2013 19:11 »
« Last Edit on: 09-06-2013 19:12 »

Fry and Bender go back to where they were 10 seconds ago while the diamonds stay with them instead of going back where they were 10 seconds ago. I don't quite follow the logic.

They remain in the state that they were in before the button was pressed, since they are in the bubble.
Except for the people, who don't remain in that state, in that position they were?
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #177 on: 09-06-2013 19:12 »

Fry and Bender go back to where they were 10 seconds ago while the diamonds stay with them instead of going back where they were 10 seconds ago. I don't quite follow the logic.

The diamonds are with Fry and Bender in the bubble, and therefore go back with them.
DannyJC13

Space Pope
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« Reply #178 on: 09-06-2013 19:40 »

Fry and Bender go back to where they were 10 seconds ago while the diamonds stay with them instead of going back where they were 10 seconds ago. I don't quite follow the logic.

When Fry and Bender go back to where they were, they aren't "refreshed" like everyone else, they're the present versions, just shifted backwards.
Quantum Neutrino Field

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #179 on: 09-06-2013 19:49 »

Ok, that works.
Later, when Fry is squashed and Leela pushes the button, Fry becomes alive again, even though he's inside the bubble. So, it doesn't work there anymore...
Anna3000

Starship Captain
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« Reply #180 on: 09-06-2013 20:12 »

I'm still a bit confused about the time travel issue; I'm probably just being thick, but personally, I'll need to watch the episode again to wrap my head around it better...which I can't do since it's not on itunes yet.  frown Even though the discussion here has helped me make more sense of it, I don't think I fully grasp how the button worked yet.

Again, maybe I'm simply a dolt, but judging by the amount of uncertainty others seem to have had, I think how the button operates could have been explained more effectively. I guess that's not really a goof, but still... hmpf
totalnerduk

DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #181 on: 09-06-2013 20:16 »

Fry and Bender go back to where they were 10 seconds ago while the diamonds stay with them instead of going back where they were 10 seconds ago. I don't quite follow the logic.

They remain in the state that they were in before the button was pressed, since they are in the bubble.
Except for the people, who don't remain in that state, in that position they were?

As Inquisitor Hein said, the diamonds are in the bubble with Fry and Bender, therefore remain with Fry and Bender when Fry and Bender go back to where they were ten seconds ago.

When Leela pushes the button, she goes back to the position she was in ten seconds ago, and so does Fry. Ten seconds ago, Fry was falling (and come to think of it, ten seconds ago Fry had the button, so that clears that up (the button goes back to where it was ten seconds ago, just like the presser does). This means that Fry shouldn't have been in the bubble when Leela pressed it, but we see that he was - I'm calling that as an animation mix-up (and thus a minor goof that's not strictly speaking the fault of the script).

If that wasn't an animation mix-up and the episode was scripted with both of them inside the bubble when Leela presses the remote, Fry not being a puddle whilst falling after the first time he strikes the pavement is either a plot hole, or a case of technology operating on the rules of whatever serves the plot best (so it's either a fail or a recognised trope), depending on your perspective.

Hopefully the DVD commentary will address this issue. However, I didn't immediately question this whilst watching initially and so am content to chalk it up to the writers invoking Fridge Logic (which they have always relied upon to smooth over the rough edges in the plot or the concepts driving it since the first season).
Eternium

Professor
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« Reply #182 on: 09-06-2013 21:00 »

It seems that only the ones in the bubble can remember those ten seconds, and fry continues his story with Leela every time she presses the button. So wouldn't he just forget and start over telling everything everytime?
totalnerduk

DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #183 on: 09-06-2013 21:14 »

That's a good point. The whole "Fry actually hits the pavement" part is pretty sloppy writing overall, having thought about it. But it made for some good speculation in the run-up to the episode.

It would have been better from a writing standpoint to have Fry not actually hit the ground, but it wouldn't have had the same dramatic... ... ...impact. tongue
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #184 on: 09-06-2013 21:20 »

Funny, there's a similar goof in "Time Keeps on Slippin".

Remember the scene where the little boys are outside the store complaining about taxes? And then when time skipped they got old and complained about not getting Free Money? Why didn't the main characters in the episode get old as well...?

I love both eps the same, actually. But I just wanted to point out that this isn't a out-of-the-ordinary goof. laff
totalnerduk

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« Reply #185 on: 09-06-2013 21:24 »

Funny, there's a similar goof in "Time Keeps on Slippin".

Remember the scene where the little boys are outside the store complaining about taxes? And then when time skipped they got old and complained about not getting Free Money? Why didn't the main characters in the episode get old as well...?

That's explained in the episodes. As the chroniton leaks get worse, the effects start to become more severe. Random, isolated pockets get skipped forwards in time, leading to the scenario described without the main cast of characters getting skipped forwards by the same amount.
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #186 on: 09-06-2013 21:35 »

I still don't understand exactly how the main characters were lucky enough to avoid such big time-skips though. Everybody else on Earth experienced big ones like that, except for them.
totalnerduk

DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #187 on: 09-06-2013 21:39 »

The same reason the protagonist in a war film doesn't normally die from being struck by the intial hail of bullets, or in the first ten minutes: plot armour.
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #188 on: 09-06-2013 21:45 »

Yup. The Meanwhile goof had the same kind of goof as that, once you think about it. Except this was more of a goof than the TKOS one, since the time aspect was more hit on than in TKOS.
totalnerduk

DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #189 on: 09-07-2013 00:19 »

this was more of a goof than the TKOS one

What you've said there would be right, except for three minor details:

  • Nothing you've mentioned from TKOS was actually a goof.
  • Nothing you've mentioned from TKOS was actually a goof.
  • Nothing you've mentioned from TKOS was actually a goof.

Whilst this is technically one minor detail repeated three times, it seemed like you'd probably need to have it pointed out three times before you'd take notice of it.
giladcs

Bending Unit
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« Reply #190 on: 10-22-2013 03:48 »

In the first segment of "Naturama", the Scruffy salmon gets caught and eaten by Zoidberg; a minute later, he's shown unhurt and swimming with the others.
Beamer

Space Pope
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« Reply #191 on: 10-22-2013 05:59 »

Oh no, the one about them all being fish didn't have perfect logic?! tongue
ShinyMetal***

Professor
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« Reply #192 on: 11-11-2013 13:03 »

That's terrible, no logic!!!  smile
Tachyon

Space Pope
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« Reply #193 on: 11-11-2013 22:13 »


Even if a show is doing a fantasy, non-canon ep, it generally works a better if there is internal consistency.

Beamer

Space Pope
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« Reply #194 on: 11-12-2013 04:31 »

Scruffy is immortal as a human, therefore he should also be immortal in any other incarnation. That is (arguably) consistency. tongue
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #195 on: 11-16-2013 04:07 »

I know it's common for Futurama characters to not have eyebrows, but what on earth is the excuse for four eyebrows?!



Another reason to hate Saturday Morning Flunk Pit. smile
Jezzem

Urban Legend
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« Reply #196 on: 11-16-2013 05:19 »

I don't think that's a goof. I think the lines above his pupils are the top of his eyelids.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #197 on: 11-17-2013 05:39 »

I noticed that Zoidberg was consistently colored incorrectly in both 'Stench and Stenchibility' and 'Meanwhile', with white eyes and white sandals. Seeing as this color mistake was made in every scene featuring him in both episodes, I wonder if this was meant to be a permanent color change, had the show gotten an eighth season? I doubt it, but it still seems a bit strange that a color mistake would span over two full episodes. hmpf
Box Incorporated

Bending Unit
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« Reply #198 on: 11-17-2013 10:26 »

Just re watched Stench and Stenchibility, and from what I could tell, Zoidberg pretty much kept his blue eyes and sandals through the entire episodes. Plus I honestly couldn't see them changing his eye color permanently just like that besides avoiding making as many mistakes on him in animation coloring.
TheMadCapper

Fluffy
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #199 on: 12-04-2013 14:04 »

I don't think that's a goof. I think the lines above his pupils are the top of his eyelids.

A quick google image search will show that this is in fact consistent with the artwork of Scooby Doo. It's not a goof, it's a deliberate imitation of the original show.
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