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Farnsworth150

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« on: 12-27-2011 06:13 »

Besides my previous post showing him having only one child Yancy Sr., his own father. Anybody reckon he had other thus far.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #1 on: 12-27-2011 07:05 »
« Last Edit on: 12-27-2011 07:07 »

In an interview, Cohen (I think it was Cohen) said they would not want Fry and Leela to have kids (at least during that part of their lives Futurama shows), for they would have to settle down then. Taking kids on those missions would be irresponsible, and going to space while leaving the kids behing would make them the worst parents ever.

So, I think other Fry children he did not care for until now (even when he was unaware of their existence) would probably interfere too much with that character's "nice guy" image for the writers.
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« Reply #2 on: 12-27-2011 07:29 »

Them having kids would really mess with the show's whole dynamic. It's already shifted a little more into the true sit-com-like realm since the first season, but something like that would blow it way out of the sci-fi-romp arena and fully into soapy-sit-com land. Not really something most viewers would want.
Farnsworth150

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« Reply #3 on: 12-27-2011 07:35 »

I wasn't really thinking about him and Leela having a kid. Mybe if they did an episode where ey went into the future a bit and they saw that they had one but other then that this post was meant for the possibilities of Fry already having existing children like for instance his run and misadventures with the Amozinian Woman. Wasn't the point of Snoose Snoose for them to continue their race?
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« Reply #4 on: 12-27-2011 07:45 »

Fry already having existing children

I think that would go right along with what Inquisitor H and spira have said. It's not something that will be introduced because it doesn't really fit the overal flavour of the show to have Fry be a deadbeat absent father. No, he's got the one child (his dad) and that's both enough and weird enough.

This question appears to have been rather comprehensively answered. I don't think that it's really got any mileage left in it.

I also think you need to learn to spell properly.
Farnsworth150

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« Reply #5 on: 12-27-2011 08:00 »

Yeah sorry about that it's this iPad keyboard I'll try keeping it more tidy.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #6 on: 12-27-2011 08:45 »

If any character at PE had to have a child, I would say Hermes, because it wouldn't really change the show too much.

Although Bender's having a son in that upcoming Season 7 episode...
El-Man

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« Reply #7 on: 12-27-2011 09:02 »

Dude, Hermes has a kid. Dwight.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #8 on: 12-27-2011 09:32 »

I meant another kid. Probably should've made that clearer.
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« Reply #9 on: 12-27-2011 13:12 »
« Last Edit on: 12-27-2011 13:14 »

I can see Leela and Fry having a kid in the final episode ever.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #10 on: 12-27-2011 14:39 »

I can see Leela and Fry adopting Bender or the kid with the ear on her face. But not having a child together. For all we know, Leela's DNA is going to throw out something horrible if she ever tries to have children. Do we know what the stillbirth/viability ratio is for mutants?
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« Reply #11 on: 12-27-2011 18:16 »

I wonder if fry and leela had a kid, how many eyes it would have, and if it would inherit any mutant genes on its maternal grandparents side (like tentacles or sideways jaws). 
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« Reply #12 on: 12-27-2011 18:39 »

Tentacles maybe, or perhaps some other random mutation which skipped a few generations. As for eyes; three eyes if it's a boy, two if it's a girl...
Farnsworth150

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« Reply #13 on: 12-27-2011 19:50 »

This leads into what I was gonna make for my next topic but since it's been brought up. How in the ruddy hell can Bender have kids? confused
DannyJC13

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« Reply #14 on: 12-27-2011 19:51 »

Robot Magic...
Beanoz4

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« Reply #15 on: 12-27-2011 20:07 »

Well when a mummy robot and a daddy robot love each other the daddy robot put's his antenna up the mummy robots....

Joking, I have no idea

Farnsworth150

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« Reply #16 on: 12-27-2011 20:09 »

It's been a thought since he gave his first born son to the robot devil. Perhaps they combine parts but wouldn't that rightfully piss MOM off?
Beanoz4

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« Reply #17 on: 12-27-2011 20:12 »

Maybe robots just adopt from moms factory?
Or maybe they go to a Build-A-Bot factory to choose what their baby looks like.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #18 on: 12-27-2011 21:01 »

Tentacles maybe, or perhaps some other random mutation which skipped a few generations. As for eyes; three eyes if it's a boy, two if it's a girl...

Three eyes a girl, four eyes a boy.  It's like magpies.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #19 on: 12-27-2011 21:38 »
« Last Edit on: 12-28-2011 00:45 »

Hm...Leela deciding against having kids because she fears mutations?

Hm..dunno if that's really on character. That would be as if Leela said a mutant life is not worth living.  And as mutants have access to the surface right now, and she probably considers her own life (and also that of her parents, fellow mutants, etc...) worth living, too...

The message sounds imhO too close to "A handycapped persons life is not worth living", and that's certainly a message the writers would NOT want to spread, or even create that impression.
(But maybe that's also a bit overinterpreted on my part...)
futz
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« Reply #20 on: 12-27-2011 22:20 »
« Last Edit on: 12-27-2011 22:47 »

To make it back to the Sunday night network lineup they'd probably have to have Fry and Leela married with 2 or 3 kids and Leela would be a stay-at-home Mom like all the other shows in the lineup now. Seems very unlikely that would every happen.

Given Fry's non-Leela adventures it's possible he has one or more offspring out there somewhere other than his father. I can see Morgan having one but not saying anything about it for a while so the child can be raised "properly". Michelle could have had one but I don't think she would have let Fry forget it for a second.

Given Fry's time travels someone could always show up at the door from the past or future and given his space adventures someone could show up that's only half human at the most. I'm not sure but wasn't there a line somewhere in the latest Season (6b) about Amy having an at least one abortion and she and Fry exchange odd looks. Might be getting that confused with another show but I seem to remember that with my brain meats.
Farnsworth150

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« Reply #21 on: 12-27-2011 22:49 »

I guess I never thought of interbreeding human/alien relationships. I mean the Amazonian Woman factor makes sence but like what if a human and a flying spagetti monster were possible?
futz
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« Reply #22 on: 12-28-2011 00:42 »

Might yield a flying human ravioli.

Ah, here it is. From Reincarnation so probably not canon but then again still likely true to the characters.

Fry: Oh, it's just that I love Leela something awful. Do you think a space-age dame like her would ever marry a two-bit, low-life delivery boy like me an' also I 'ave bad posture and severe financial problems?

Bender: Have you tried gettin' 'er pregnant?

Fry: Gosh, yes. I've tried an' tried, but, so far, I only got Amy pregnant.
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« Reply #23 on: 12-28-2011 03:10 »

Do we know what the stillbirth/viability ratio is for mutants?

The show will never address that kind of statistic. It's way too depressing for a comedy. And it wouldn't be funny at all, unlike most deaths (Lucy Liu-bot, Steve Castle, Dr. Nick from "The Simpsons"). It would either have to be mentioned off-canon (commentary or Q&A panel) or the issue would have to be smoothed over.

I wonder if fry and leela had a kid, how many eyes it would have, and if it would inherit any mutant genes on its maternal grandparents side (like tentacles or sideways jaws). 

I doubt that the mutant traits of Leela's ancestors will reoccur if she were to reproduce with Fry. Unless the conspirators are correct about Fry and Leela being cousins, Fry is highly unlikely to be a carrier of those traits. Leela is a carrier of tentacle arms, arachnid jaw, and fur allergies, but those particular traits aren't going to reoccur unless if those traits are carried in the DNA of her mate. Those traits certainly weren't strong enough to show in Leela, and they'll only be approximately twice as week in an offspring between Fry and Leela. However, this doesn't mean that Leela's offspring can't inherit her single, gigantic eye, her purple hair, her elbow-talons, her monthly animate butt boil, her large feet, or her larger-than-average nose.

We also have to remember that Futurama is still a comedy television show. Though Futurama has had some very accurate moments that has made the scientific community proud, Futurama is still a comedy. The real "physics" of genetics may be ignored in favor of what's going to be funnier/more attractive.

Tentacles maybe, or perhaps some other random mutation which skipped a few generations. As for eyes; three eyes if it's a boy, two if it's a girl...

Possible, maybe. Who knows?

If anybody ever took the time to read my long-winded post on the Shipping thread, then you'll see what my argument is about the eyes of their offspring.

While I wouldn't like this prospect, it would be interesting if the couple had a child that had one eye with two pupils or two eye sockets that share the same eyeball... A bit disgusting, yes, and I don't think that is biologically possible.

This leads into what I was gonna make for my next topic but since it's been brought up. How in the ruddy hell can Bender have kids? confused

We'll find out soon enough.

Hm...Leela deciding against having kids because she fears mutations?

Hm..dunno if that's really on character. That would be as if Leela said a mutant life is not worth living.  And as mutants have access to the surface right now, and she probably considers her own life (and also that of her parents, fellow mutants, etc...) worth living, too...

I'm sure Leela will have her qualms initially, but she'll probably reassure herself that she could be a great mother to her child(ren). There are other issues that could be more pertinent to her, such as whether she is qualified to be a good mother, whether she wants to be a mother and enter a lifelong commitment, and whether she can physically and emotionally handle child-rearing.

Given Fry's non-Leela adventures it's possible he has one or more offspring out there somewhere other than his father. I can see Morgan having one but not saying anything about it for a while so the child can be raised "properly". Michelle could have had one but I don't think she would have let Fry forget it for a second.

Fry definitely did not get Michelle pregnant. Michelle wouldn't mentioned it when she came to the future in "The Cryonic Woman", and the two haven't slept with each other since the 20th century.

Morgan was such a brief fling. While she did make an appearance in "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings", nothing has led me to believe she had a baby. Besides, I'm sure she knew to take the morning-after pill or got an abortion...

I'm not sure but wasn't there a line somewhere in the latest Season (6b) about Amy having an at least one abortion and she and Fry exchange odd looks. Might be getting that confused with another show but I seem to remember that with my brain meats.

That's interesting if it were true. But I'm 99% sure there was no mention of such. But I'd be gobsmacked if you were to prove me wrong.

Fry: Oh, it's just that I love Leela something awful. Do you think a space-age dame like her would ever marry a two-bit, low-life delivery boy like me an' also I 'ave bad posture and severe financial problems?

Bender: Have you tried gettin' 'er pregnant?

Fry: Gosh, yes. I've tried an' tried, but, so far, I only got Amy pregnant.

When I heard this quote, I became floored with fangasm-ish feeling. Moving along...

The thing about the episode that makes me think the events that transpired were partially canon was the fact that later segments were dependent on the earlier segments. It makes me wonder if Fry actually did propose to Leela.

While the last line was really for laughs, I still deduct from the questionable canon whether or not Leela can even conceive a child at all- by a mutant or non-mutant mate...
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« Reply #24 on: 12-28-2011 08:52 »

I posted this over two years ago, but it still sums up my feelings on the subject, and is still the best way I think it could happen.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #25 on: 12-28-2011 09:03 »

Do we know what the stillbirth/viability ratio is for mutants?

The show will never address that kind of statistic. It's way too depressing for a comedy. And it wouldn't be funny at all, unlike most deaths (Lucy Liu-bot, Steve Castle, Dr. Nick from "The Simpsons"). It would either have to be mentioned off-canon (commentary or Q&A panel) or the issue would have to be smoothed over.

The sound you are now hearing is you, missing the point as it goes flying past you.
futz
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« Reply #26 on: 12-28-2011 12:58 »

Michelle: There's Frida, act normal.


The problem I have with getting too deep into Canon is that we only see about 5.2 hours of the crews life per season. That's about .06% of the time in a year which leaves a lot of time for things to happen we don't see.
Freako

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« Reply #27 on: 12-28-2011 14:24 »
« Last Edit on: 12-28-2011 14:26 »

Or it's just a cartoon and the only things that happen are what they write.
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« Reply #28 on: 12-28-2011 14:52 »

The sound you are now hearing is you, missing the point as it goes flying past you.

If I'm not understanding something due to ignorance/incompetence, then please, spell it out (as in explain, please don't actually spell-it-out).
DotheBartman

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« Reply #29 on: 12-29-2011 01:23 »

According to the commentary, "Law and Oracle" originally started as a completely different episode, featuring a backwards time-traveler who literally speaks all of his sentences backward, and it would turn out that he was Fry and Leela's future son. However, after spending a few days on it, the writers realized that they had created a complex, interesting story outline that wasn't especially funny, so it was nixed.
Beanoz4

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« Reply #30 on: 12-29-2011 01:31 »
« Last Edit on: 12-29-2011 01:36 »

Old news
DannyJC13

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« Reply #31 on: 12-29-2011 12:03 »

Actually the concept itself is old news, but we didn't know Law and Oracle was going to originally be that episode... wink
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« Reply #32 on: 12-29-2011 13:12 »
« Last Edit on: 12-29-2011 13:14 »

Gorky told us it was in the commentary on Boxing Day.

I'm listening to the commentary for "Law & Oracle" right now, and apparently the episode's development began with DXC and Josh Weinstein spending several days working out a story about predicting the future. This became the Fry-and-Leela's-backwards-talking-and-moving-kid episode, which had everything going for it except "comedy." So they decided to do a Minority Report parody instead.
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« Reply #33 on: 12-29-2011 14:30 »

I know, but it's still new news...
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« Reply #34 on: 12-29-2011 17:41 »

According to the commentary, "Law and Oracle" originally started as a completely different episode, featuring a backwards time-traveler who literally speaks all of his sentences backward, and it would turn out that he was Fry and Leela's future son. However, after spending a few days on it, the writers realized that they had created a complex, interesting story outline that wasn't especially funny, so it was nixed.

I would like to see that episode, even though it was never produced. frown I'm sure they could make it funny.
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« Reply #35 on: 12-29-2011 20:41 »


I doubt that the mutant traits of Leela's ancestors will reoccur if she were to reproduce with Fry. Unless the conspirators are correct about Fry and Leela being cousins, Fry is highly unlikely to be a carrier of those traits. Leela is a carrier of tentacle arms, arachnid jaw, and fur allergies, but those particular traits aren't going to reoccur unless if those traits are carried in the DNA of her mate. Those traits certainly weren't strong enough to show in Leela, and they'll only be approximately twice as week in an offspring between Fry and Leela. However, this doesn't mean that Leela's offspring can't inherit her single, gigantic eye, her purple hair, her elbow-talons, her monthly animate butt boil, her large feet, or her larger-than-average nose.

Leela could have genes for mutations that are not dominant over her other genes, but which could be dominant over Fry's genes. Genes aren't either Dominant or Not-Dominant. They range along a spectrum of dominance. Leela might well be carrying tentacle genes that are not active in her because Morris's arm genes are more dominant, but the tentacle genes might still beat out Fry's arm-genes.

Genes also express themselves not only in orders of dominance but with environmental, stress, age, and who-knows-what else factors. And this is STILL an oversimplification.

Hm...Leela deciding against having kids because she fears mutations?

Hm..dunno if that's really on character. That would be as if Leela said a mutant life is not worth living.  And as mutants have access to the surface right now, and she probably considers her own life (and also that of her parents, fellow mutants, etc...) worth living, too...

The message sounds imhO too close to "A handycapped persons life is not worth living", and that's certainly a message the writers would NOT want to spread, or even create that impression.
(But maybe that's also a bit overinterpreted on my part...)

You certainly can think a child's life would be worth living though they have a mutation or handicap, while not wishing that condition upon the kid.

I think (and am quite surprised nobody has mentioned it yet) that Fry and Leela would adopt. If they had more than one kid, maybe they'd make some the old fashioned way, but we know that Leela was deeply affected by her time in the orphanarium, never being adopted. We've even seen her in action, ready to adopt an orphan with Adlai Atkins in season 3 episode 9, The Cyber House Rules.
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« Reply #36 on: 12-29-2011 20:53 »

If they had more than one kid, maybe they'd make some the old fashioned way, but we know that Leela was deeply affected by her time in the orphanarium, never being adopted. We've even seen her in action, ready to adopt an orphan with Adlai Atkins in season 3 episode 9, The Cyber House Rules.

Yes, but the Orphanarium did run out of supplies in the best Futurama episode ever tongue
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #37 on: 12-29-2011 21:56 »

I hope they adopt Sally.   She's so cute and as Leela has pointed out herself, she really deserves a mommy. 
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« Reply #38 on: 12-31-2011 03:24 »

I don't want any  new main characters or crew members. My only exception is Ben Rodriguez because he would make an awesome addition to the crew. I can just see him hanging out with Dwight and Cubert.
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« Reply #39 on: 12-31-2011 14:37 »

It would be nice to keep Ben around, as long as he isn't annoying...
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