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DannyJC13

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« on: 07-17-2011 18:34 »

Never seen a thread like this, so here goes, how do we feel about Futurama breaking the fourth wall?

It happened A LOT in the game, the only other time I can think of it happening is in ITWGY and the comic issue 'Your Mother Wears Pilot Boots'.
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« Reply #1 on: 07-17-2011 18:41 »

The show leaned on the fourth wall during the opening of Bender's Big Score.

"What does this mean for us and our many fans?"
DannyJC13

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« Reply #2 on: 07-17-2011 19:03 »

Yeah I forgot about that one too. laff
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« Reply #3 on: 07-17-2011 22:01 »
« Last Edit on: 07-17-2011 22:04 »

Off the top of my head...

There was also the opening sequence in Rebirth, the oblique reference in TLOTE, and perhaps intentionally, perhaps not, the fourth wall was given a tiny prod in the pilot.

It's nothing new. Little jabs at the fourth wall are part of Futurama's established... um... the French have a name for it... a certain...

Oh, I really don't know what.

But I could probably find more if I sat down with my DVDs and made an effort. Which I'm not going to do, since I don't really think it's necessary. Futurama often uses the fourth wall to support part of the set, as it were. If it took until TSOTC for you to spot it, then you're obviously not part of the audience demographic to which those jokes were addressed (ie: people who read TV  tropes and have an appreciation for subtle pokes at the medium through which a story is being told).
DannyJC13

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« Reply #4 on: 07-17-2011 22:03 »

and perhaps intentionally, perhaps not, the fourth wall was given a tiny prod in the pilot.

What was that?
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« Reply #5 on: 07-17-2011 22:05 »

and perhaps intentionally, perhaps not, the fourth wall was given a tiny prod in the pilot.

What was that?

Go watch it and figure it out. I'm done spoonfeeding the clueless. It's a thankless task and accomplishes nothing.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #6 on: 07-17-2011 22:05 »

Go watch it and figure it out. I'm done spoonfeeding the clueless. It's a thankless task and accomplishes nothing.

Grow up.
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« Reply #7 on: 07-17-2011 22:16 »

Your maturity and wisdom have swayed my heart and changed my mind.

* tnuk repents of all his sins and becomes a nun.
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« Reply #8 on: 07-17-2011 22:30 »
« Last Edit on: 07-17-2011 22:31 »

As an official Discordian Pope, I hereby canonize tnuk as a Saint, Second Class.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #9 on: 07-17-2011 22:32 »

As an official Discordian Pope, I hereby canonize tnuk as a Saint, Second Class.

Wrong decision.
Gorky

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« Reply #10 on: 07-17-2011 22:34 »

Enough of this nunsense! Seriously, tnuk, what moment in the pilot are you referring to? I can think of a few possibilities, but I'm probably wrong. (And I like being spoon-fed, but only because being fork-fed can be dangerous if the feeder has bad aim.)
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« Reply #11 on: 07-17-2011 22:40 »

Wrong decision.

I now excommunicate and deexcommunicate you.
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« Reply #12 on: 07-17-2011 22:58 »

The show leaned on the fourth wall during the opening of Bender's Big Score.

"What does this mean for us and our many fans?"

Also when Bender literally breaks the fourth Wall by looking into the camera "And I bet it's gonna get a lot more confusing."
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« Reply #13 on: 07-17-2011 22:59 »

Enough of this nunsense! Seriously, tnuk, what moment in the pilot are you referring to?

The one I was thinking of was a freeze-frame joke...

As an official Discordian Pope, I hereby canonize tnuk as a Saint, Second Class.

Don't you have to be dead to be canonized? wtf?
DannyJC13

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« Reply #14 on: 07-17-2011 23:00 »

Also when Bender literally breaks the fourth Wall by looking into the camera "And I bet it's gonna get a lot more confusing."

I don't recall, I just remember him saying it outloud.
Gorky

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« Reply #15 on: 07-17-2011 23:07 »

Ah, thanks for clearing that up, tnuk. (And yeah, I was right: None of the moments I was thinking of were the moment to which you were referring.)

And as far as breaking the fourth wall in general goes: I don't mind it if it's done subtly--but if the writers call too much attention to what they're doing, it kind of cheapens the episode (and, in a way, the series itself) by meddling with my ever-so-fragile suspension of disbelief.
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« Reply #16 on: 07-17-2011 23:11 »

Don't you have to be dead to be canonized? wtf?

Not according to the Principa Discordia. Now stop questioning my retroactive infalliblity!
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« Reply #17 on: 07-17-2011 23:37 »

Ah, thanks for clearing that up, tnuk. (And yeah, I was right: None of the moments I was thinking of were the moment to which you were referring.)

And as far as breaking the fourth wall in general goes: I don't mind it if it's done subtly--but if the writers call too much attention to what they're doing, it kind of cheapens the episode (and, in a way, the series itself) by meddling with my ever-so-fragile suspension of disbelief.

Agreed completely.  I think you totally understand the series. smile
Gorky

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« Reply #18 on: 07-17-2011 23:42 »

And I don't understand sarcasm, so thank you very much, winna! What a nice thing to say! wink
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« Reply #19 on: 07-18-2011 04:47 »

Enough of this nunsense! Seriously, tnuk, what moment in the pilot are you referring to? I can think of a few possibilities, but I'm probably wrong. (And I like being spoon-fed, but only because being fork-fed can be dangerous if the feeder has bad aim.)

It's why I lost my job at the local nursery.  I mean jesus I brought the girl a pink eyepatch but nooo... some people are never satisfied. 
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« Reply #20 on: 07-18-2011 08:00 »

As an official Discordian Pope, I hereby canonize tnuk as a Saint, Second Class.

Don't you have to be dead to be canonized? wtf?

Nope, you only need to have suffered a lot.

Hail Eris!
winna

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« Reply #21 on: 07-18-2011 10:12 »

And I don't understand sarcasm, so thank you very much, winna! What a nice thing to say! wink

I actually wasn't being sarcastic.  I read a lot of your opinions yesterday across various threads about how the show operates, and I agree with many of them. :blink:
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« Reply #22 on: 07-18-2011 21:09 »

1. Groening's head in a jar in the Pilot and elsewhere, as pointed out by TNUK

2. The characters drawn to look like the writers in the internet scenes in A Bicyclops Built for Two (like the one drawn like Cohen when Fry zaps him in the video game). And also similarly kinda the fact that they spoofed Katey Sagal's character in Married..With Children with Leela in that episode.

3. The opening sequence of Bender's Big Score when they talk about the "incompetent morons" who cancelled them at the "BOX" network, and the B fades in and out to an F.

4. The ending of ITWGY when they don't know what is going to happen to them after this.

5. The opening sequence of Rebirth, and even the name of the episode itself.

It's been a while since I saw the older Futurama, I will have to have a look again to find other stuff as I am sure there is.
stum

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« Reply #23 on: 11-10-2013 18:54 »

Bender names Futurama as one of his favourite shows at the end of "Bender Should Not Be Allowed on TV".
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« Reply #24 on: 11-10-2013 20:41 »

Yea, I saw that. I always hated when cartoons knew they were on a show. It bugs mah a lot.
stum

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« Reply #25 on: 11-10-2013 20:49 »

It's just fun.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #26 on: 11-10-2013 22:06 »

I like fourth wall!  It's very funny!  Even other shows like Boston Legal used to do it.
stum

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« Reply #27 on: 11-10-2013 23:38 »

4th wall is fun
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #28 on: 11-22-2013 17:29 »

4th wall is fun

I'm not huge fan of breaking the fourth wall.
Beamer

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« Reply #29 on: 11-22-2013 17:45 »

I'm not huge fan of breaking the fourth wall.

Depends on the extent to which it's done, and how seriously the piece should be taken in the first place. I love subtle meta humour that still makes total sense in context, but outright destruction of the fourth wall generally grates me.
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #30 on: 11-22-2013 17:54 »

I'm not huge fan of breaking the fourth wall.

Depends on the extent to which it's done, and how seriously the piece should be taken in the first place. I love subtle meta humour that still makes total sense in context, but outright destruction of the fourth wall generally grates me.

Same here. I mean, c'mon, would you like someone video-taping your life, and turning it into a t.v. show? I don't think characters would let it happen if they knew they were on a show, if that makes any sense.
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« Reply #31 on: 11-22-2013 21:30 »

 The movie Scream took it too far.
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #32 on: 11-23-2013 03:17 »

The movie Scream took it too far.

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TheBPB11

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« Reply #33 on: 11-23-2013 07:13 »

Everything is about Scream with you two nowadays,  Enough!  tongue
Beamer

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« Reply #34 on: 11-23-2013 07:28 »

We should buy them a time machine for Christmas so they can go back to a time when their Scream obsession would actually make them fit in. tongue
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #35 on: 11-23-2013 13:32 »

We should buy them a time machine for Christmas so they can go back to a time when their Scream obsession would actually make them fit in. tongue

We should buy you a time machine to go back to when Hippie Toad avatars were cool. tongue
Beamer

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« Reply #36 on: 11-23-2013 13:35 »

There was a time when Hippie Toad avatars were cool? confused
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« Reply #37 on: 11-23-2013 23:15 »

 All I know is that a I'd really love a time machine, because 'this isn't a movie, it's real life.'
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« Reply #38 on: 11-24-2013 01:33 »

It's no fun if planet express can't afford the 4 wall, they're going out of business constantly anyway. frown
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« Reply #39 on: 12-22-2013 08:23 »

I think a bit of prodding at the 4th wall can be a good thing every now and then. Futurama seems to be very "Carol Burnettish" in the way its done. (Burnett was constantly mugging  and staring at the camera, but never blatantly breaking the wall) It's not a common Futurama occurrence, but it can provide some good entertainment when it happens.

My personal favorite is in ITWGY when Bender says "No, Fry's crazy in this one."
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