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uri lukin

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« on: 08-21-2010 21:10 »

Leonardo's machine flappes its wings in space even thou that is useless there are no gases in space so the machine will just be caught in some planet's gravity and circle it forever.
Jezzem

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« Reply #1 on: 08-21-2010 21:37 »

Well ordinarily I'd say that Futurama's a cartoon (It is, by the way.), but I'm willing to make an exception here. The DaVinci spaceship has wings for the same reason that the Planet Express ship looks aerodynamic: Because it's designed to fly in an atmosphere as well as in space.
uri lukin

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« Reply #2 on: 08-21-2010 21:43 »

i know why it has wing why does the wings flap in space
Chives

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« Reply #3 on: 08-21-2010 21:50 »

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool
Jezzem

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« Reply #4 on: 08-21-2010 21:53 »

The wings constantly flap because the whole ship is mechanical and has no way of detecting when it's in space and when it's not in space, so the wings continue to flap even though it's not the flapping the propelling said spaceship.

Still though, it's a sci-fi comedy cartoon and doesn't have to be scientifically accurate all the time anyway, so whether or not those were reasons that were supposed be there from the beginning or not is pretty irrelevant anyway.

Alternatively, what Chives said.
uri lukin

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« Reply #5 on: 08-21-2010 21:58 »

but it doesnt need to flap even to exit the atmosphere it has been shot of a cannon(and by the way that isnt enough to exit the atmosphere)
uri lukin

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« Reply #6 on: 08-21-2010 22:00 »

and Chives what the hell does that mean:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool
Chives

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« Reply #7 on: 08-21-2010 22:03 »

It's a link, bro. You click on it and stuff happens.
uri lukin

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« Reply #8 on: 08-21-2010 22:07 »

i know its a link "bro" what does it mean
Chives

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« Reply #9 on: 08-21-2010 22:09 »

If you would do me the honor of clicking on it, and then follow up that kindness with another one wherein you read the words on this new page, you'll find it not only answers your question in this topic but in most of your topics.

Not only that, but the ones this link doesn't answer can be answered by http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny.

I do hope that was clear.
uri lukin

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« Reply #10 on: 08-21-2010 22:13 »
« Last Edit on: 08-21-2010 22:16 »

it has nothing to do with the subject
Jezzem

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« Reply #11 on: 08-21-2010 22:16 »
« Last Edit on: 08-21-2010 22:18 »

but it doesnt need to flap even to exit the atmosphere it has been shot of a cannon(and by the way that isnt enough to exit the atmosphere)

It needs wings to stay in the air when it enters the atmosphere of Planet Vinci (and then to land comfortably)

But seriously, come on. Now you're pointing these things out about the spaceship in an episode about DaVinci being an alien who's still alive, but on his home planet?

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it has nothing to do with the subject

Yes it does. He just answered you question! The Rule Of Cool is the exact reason why it has wings!
uri lukin

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« Reply #12 on: 08-21-2010 22:30 »

you dont refer my second ab-normality it will be caught in some planet's gravity and circle it forever. and wing are not enough,things like that enter the atmosphere in hundreds of thousands M/Ph it has to incinerate
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #13 on: 08-21-2010 22:37 »

You say that with no knowledge of what the atmosphere is like on planet Vinci other than it can sustain Fry and the Professor.

Why wouldn't wings be enough? The ship clearly didn't enter at a particularly huge speed.
You can see that it entered the atmosphere and landed at quite a leisurely pace. Hence, no. It wouldn't incinerate.
Jezzem

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« Reply #14 on: 08-21-2010 22:43 »

You don't refer my second ab-normality, it will be caught in some planet's gravity and circle it forever.

Well you could either make up some bullshit about how the cannon was pointed in a direction that would send it directly towards Planet Vinci, or it's a cartoon.

Wings are not enough, things like that enter the atmosphere in hundreds of thousands M/h. It has to incinerate.

Uh, did I say the wings protected it from burning up when it enters the atmosphere? No, it needs the wings to stay in the air when it's in the atmosphere of Planet Vinci. If we're somehow accepting that the ship will make it into space without breaking up (or making it into space at all) then we must somehow accept that it can enter another atmosphere without breaking up.

Also, FUTURAMA IS A CARTOON!
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #15 on: 08-22-2010 09:53 »

Leonardo's machine flappes its wings in space even thou that is useless there are no gases in space so the machine will just be caught in some planet's gravity and circle it forever.

Leonardo's flying machine is meant to be funny. It flaps the wings in space because it is amusing that it do so.

Leonardo's flying machine is a purely mechanical apparatus. It keeps flapping, because the whole mechanism is geared to a single drive train. When one part moves, it all moves.

Leonardo's machine is clearly pushed through space by some other means than the flapping.

Plus, you fail at gravity. Fail forever.

but it doesnt need to flap even to exit the atmosphere it has been shot of a cannon(and by the way that isnt enough to exit the atmosphere)

It does need to flap to aerobrake once it enters the atmosphere and begins a controlled descent.

Being shot out of a cannon is a fine enough way to get into space... it was one of the alternatives to a rocket that was on NASA's mind during the early Gemini program. It's also quite feasible, provided that the explosive charge and the gun barrel are correctly proportioned to one another.

Stop failing at physics please. Either find a cartoon that you can understand, or just shut up and pretend you're not mystified by Futurama.
Ratraccoon

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« Reply #16 on: 09-25-2010 22:27 »

Forget that the spaceship has wings! If you want to nitpick a better thing to nitpick about this is the fact that Fry and the Professor survived for a WHOLE FREAKING MONTH WITH NO FOOD OR WATER! By the time they reached the planet Vinci there should have been 2 rotting corpses and a pile of crap they left when they were still alive.
David A

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« Reply #17 on: 09-25-2010 23:18 »

Don't you think Leonardo would have thought of that and included some sort of food supply/life support/other solution to the problem?

I'd say the wings were more Rule of Funny than Rule of Cool, but they're not mutually exclusive categories.  Hey, Chives, don't go throwing around links to TV Tropes like that.  Some people may have had other plans for the next few hours before they clicked on it.
Chives

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« Reply #18 on: 09-26-2010 21:29 »

Don't you think Leonardo would have thought of that and included some sort of food supply/life support/other solution to the problem?

I'd say the wings were more Rule of Funny than Rule of Cool, but they're not mutually exclusive categories.  Hey, Chives, don't go throwing around links to TV Tropes like that.  Some people may have had other plans for the next few hours before they clicked on it.

Sorry, man, I suppose the proper thing to do would have been to put up warning signs on either side of the link saying that it will drain away free time if you choose to click.
winna

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« Reply #19 on: 09-27-2010 03:44 »

I thought you memorized tv tropes 6 years ago David?

Now that I think about it.... how well do we know DavidA?  eek
David A

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« Reply #20 on: 09-29-2010 14:46 »

I actually already had TV Tropes open in another window the first time I clicked on this thread.  tongue  It's too late for me; far, far too late; but others might have been spared my fate.

Sorry, man, I suppose the proper thing to do would have been to put up warning signs on either side of the link saying that it will drain away free time if you choose to click.

Warning signs won't help.  They may actually encourage some people.
Bigboysdontcry

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« Reply #21 on: 09-30-2010 07:35 »

I can not believe this argument got as far as it did, jeez.
Futuraman2112

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« Reply #22 on: 01-14-2011 12:12 »

And the other hamburger will ALSO be made out of your lung!
lemily33

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« Reply #23 on: 02-25-2011 05:47 »

it has nothing to do with the subject

The. Wings. Are. Cool. Rule of Cool says they flap in space because it looks badass.
Xanfor

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« Reply #24 on: 02-25-2011 06:23 »
« Last Edit on: 02-25-2011 06:28 »

It does need to flap to aerobrake once it enters the atmosphere and begins a controlled descent.

This is the truth. Just because the wings are presented in a humorous manner does not mean they do not serve a legitimate purpose. People continuing to disagree on this issue are only harming their own reputations. Of course, we are all like that to some degree.

The. Wings. Are. Cool. Rule of Cool says they flap in space because it looks badass.

What do you mean, they're not awesome? laff
lemily33

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« Reply #25 on: 02-25-2011 06:32 »

It does need to flap to aerobrake once it enters the atmosphere and begins a controlled descent.

This is the truth. Just because the wings are presented in a humorous manner does not mean they do not serve a legitimate purpose. People continuing to disagree on this issue are only harming their own reputations. Of course, we are all like that to some degree.

The. Wings. Are. Cool. Rule of Cool says they flap in space because it looks badass.

What do you mean, they're not awesome? laff

You, sir, win. Thankfully, I have already memorized enough tropes that I am virtually immune to potholing. smile
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