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« Reply #240 on: 06-30-2011 15:04 »
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unless that "short, random hop" ends with you materializing inside a wall or a piece of furniture

Well, it already materializes you inside the same physical space occupied by air, so there must be some sort of embedded safety system.

TOTPD...


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« Reply #241 on: 06-30-2011 15:30 »

The process is two-way: the air or other medium is displaced back to your original position.

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« Reply #242 on: 07-02-2011 15:47 »

In Ghost In The Machines the nurse advised Fry that "No machines are allowed" on the Amish home world and then not long afterwards the crew come visit Fry. While they visit, Leela is wearing her electronic wrist thingamajigger, the very same wrist thingamajigger that Bender had used earlier on in the episode to slap Fry with extra times. This bothered greatly as it seemed like a major contradiction and an obvious continuity error...
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« Reply #243 on: 07-02-2011 15:48 »

Reposting what I wrote in the 6ACV19 thread, as its of better use here.

Iím amazed after having read through this entire review thread that one thing has not been picked up on as it was a major gripe I had with this episode. The nurse advised Fry that "No machines are allowed" on the Amish home world and then not long after the crew come visit Fry, Leela has her electronic wrist thingamajigger on, the very same wrist thingamajigger that Bender had used earlier on in the episode to slap Fry with several times. This bothered greatly as it seemed like a major contradiction and an obvious continuity error. I think Iíll make a thread about this issue actually...

I didn't think of that. It could be explained, though, just by having Bender not think of it even though he could have used it.
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« Reply #244 on: 07-02-2011 15:56 »

Although Bender may not have thought of it, how was Leela even allowed onto the planet while wearing it? They obviously weren't allowed to enter the planet using their usual Planet Express Ship as that would constitute being a machine. The Robot Devil must have hidden and then disguised himself to enable his passage onto the planet, but Leela's wrist thingamajigger was in full view and yet no one stopped her, not even the captain of the Amish spaceship which brought them there, now the two Amish folk who lowered the wooden walkway towards the door that the crew walked out of...
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« Reply #245 on: 07-02-2011 16:03 »

I don't think the Amish thought that much about it. They were just visitors for a short amount of time, I don't think they cared that much about any equipment they brought in.
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« Reply #246 on: 07-02-2011 16:06 »

If they didn't care then they would have let them visit using the Planet Express Ship...
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« Reply #247 on: 07-02-2011 16:09 »

There's only one designated parking space, and they don't want other space ships destroying the beautiful nature.
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« Reply #248 on: 07-02-2011 16:58 »

If Brother Fry had become a valued member of the community, I can see why the Amish people would be fine letting one of his guests have a pass. Although that probably goes against what a real Amish culture would do, I think we can agree that this was probably just a slip by the writers. Alternatively, maybe Leela put her wrist thingy into Amish mode (the future equivalent of our cell phones going into Airplane mode, where all wireless signals stop being produced). In Amish mode, the wrist thingy stops functioning on any electricity and becomes an analog watch. Unfortunately, I know too little about electricity to realize how stupid what I just said sounds. : )
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« Reply #249 on: 07-02-2011 18:25 »
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From now on I shall refer to "Airplane Mode" as "Amish Mode." laff
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« Reply #250 on: 07-02-2011 18:27 »

If the people of the Amish Planet are anything like the real Amish, then visitors would be allowed to use machines, just not inhabitants. The Amish lifestyle is personal choice by those who live it, not something that they believe everyone should adopt.

Even visitors who walk around among them and stuff? I'm not that familiar with how the Amish societies work, but don't they have villages and stuff where electronics are pretty much forbidden?

Edit: What's with the edit?
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« Reply #251 on: 07-02-2011 18:28 »

I realized a moment after I wrote it that I was thinking of another group, not the Amish. hmpf
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« Reply #252 on: 07-02-2011 18:29 »

Oh. So, ignore my reply. :|
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« Reply #253 on: 07-02-2011 19:21 »

From now on I shall refer to "Airplane Mode" as "Amish Mode." laff

I'm holding you to that. If a flight attendant says to you, "Sir, please turn your cell phone off or turn it on Airplane Mode," I expect you to respond with, "Don't you mean Amish Mode??"

I don't think you'll have to worry about offending any Amish people nearby. : P
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« Reply #254 on: 07-02-2011 19:41 »

The Amish don't ban machines, they are just not allowed to own them. They can also operate some one else's machinery such as on a job. More strange was giving Fry a beard and not the wife (even a straw one) that an Amish man should have if he sports a beard.
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« Reply #255 on: 07-03-2011 00:07 »

So I was correct about the Amish? That's nice to know. smile
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« Reply #256 on: 07-03-2011 00:59 »

I drive up to Amish country about 2 or 3 times a week. Up around Goshen Indiana. Just because something isn't allowed DOESN'T mean it can't be there (Robot Devil anyone? ). From what I have seen up there, they don't personally own technology. But they can work around it or actually use it in some cases if required for work ( although to be honest, those may be menonites, not sure if that's spelled right.)
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« Reply #257 on: 07-03-2011 01:01 »

jeepdavetj, they say that technology isn't allowed on the planet though. And the Robot Devil hid.
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« Reply #258 on: 07-03-2011 03:27 »

Well, that's just what the English said - and the brochure.
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« Reply #259 on: 07-03-2011 03:35 »

jeepdavetj, they say that technology isn't allowed on the planet though. And the Robot Devil hid.

True, but being the Amish are a mostly gentle people, do you think Leela is the type to give up her, her, wtf is that thing anyway? Any who, do you think they would have taken it from her or kept her from going? I doubt it.  tongue
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« Reply #260 on: 07-03-2011 03:36 »

True, but being the Amish are a mostly gentle people, do you think Leela is the type to give up her, her, wtf is that thing anyway? Any who, do you think they would have taken it from her or kept her from going? I doubt it.  tongue

I don't think the Amish thought that much about it. They were just visitors for a short amount of time, I don't think they cared that much about any equipment they brought in.
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« Reply #261 on: 07-03-2011 03:39 »

Um yeah. What you said. I'll just go sit quietly in the corner now and rock back and forth.
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« Reply #262 on: 07-03-2011 13:14 »

Anyone notice that when Fry is being attacked in the hanger, the ship has mysteriously vanished?
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« Reply #263 on: 07-03-2011 13:19 »

Anyone notice that when Fry is being attacked in the hanger, the ship has mysteriously vanished?

Yes, but my brain didn't say 'It's an error', it just said 'The ships not there'. hmpf
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« Reply #264 on: 07-04-2011 04:32 »

So I was capturing pictures from a scene in the latest episode:



Fry... love love love love love big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin smile smile smile smile smile

Anyway... laff

His belly button is missing I think. I doubt it's hiding underneath there.



So cute... smile smile smile smile smile big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin love love love love love

Anyway...see what I mean?
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« Reply #265 on: 07-04-2011 10:05 »

That is such a painful looking position of Fry in that first grab. I really notice it when I'm seeing it for longer than a second haha.

I watched this episode again with my cousin and he made this comment about a third of the way through the episode (without seeing the ending yet): Why doesn't Bender just inhabit his body like he did to the other machines? I bring this up because Robot Devil did this in the end. What makes his duplicate body different from Bender's? What is the difference between a non-salvagable robot and one that is simply "off" or not in use?
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« Reply #266 on: 07-04-2011 10:11 »
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Because his robot is dead.  It is not just off.

Consider the following:  What is the difference between a computer that is turned off and one that is broken?
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« Reply #267 on: 07-04-2011 10:18 »

There had to have been microwave radiation or something to kill him in that booth. The bullets wouldn't have done so I don't think...? I am thinking of the scene in Bender Gets Made when they shoot a barrage of bullets at one robot, and DonBot says, "Let that be a warning to you" and the bullet-ridden robot replies, "Thank you, DonBot."

This brings up an issue I had with the killing of mini Benders in Benderama as well. Bullets killed some of them, too. Explanations...?
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« Reply #268 on: 07-04-2011 10:34 »

It's a cartoon.
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« Reply #269 on: 07-04-2011 10:45 »

Yes, and this is the Re-check/Weird Scenes forum.

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« Reply #270 on: 07-04-2011 11:37 »

The size of the bullets compared to the mini Benders was much higher than full-sized robot. The likelihood of the mini Benders getting hit at a vital component is much higher.

There are any number of things that could've killed him, and we've seen the suicide booths equipped with a various assortment of gadgets, some of which we have no idea what they actually. However, in answer to your question of why he didn't go back to his own body, Svip's example was spot on. If we say that there were microwaves in the suicide booth, then his body's motherboard likely was fried and thus his robot ghost could not reside there. At the end of the episode, there was divine intervention that allowed him to return to his body.
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« Reply #271 on: 07-04-2011 14:56 »

In Ghost In The Machines the nurse advised Fry that "No machines are allowed" on the Amish home world and then not long afterwards the crew come visit Fry. While they visit, Leela is wearing her electronic wrist thingamajigger, the very same wrist thingamajigger that Bender had used earlier on in the episode to slap Fry with extra times. This bothered greatly as it seemed like a major contradiction and an obvious continuity error...

I noticed this right off the bat as well, and it frustrated me for the remainder of the episode and afterwards. However, someone over on the A.V. Club posted a comment that made me feel better.

Quote from: "Interested Bystander", A.V. Club
Okay, so, there were two machines he could have possessed. So let's see...

Which one was more mobile and useful? Robot Devil
Which one would be cooler and more fun to possess? Robot Devil
Which one was closer to Bender? Robot Devil
Which one let Bender stick it to someone who was hassling him? Robot Devil
Which one would keep the Robot Devil from thwarting his recuse attempt? Robot Devil
Which would keep Fry from thinking Leela had saved him? Robot Devil
Which wouldn't risk killing Leela to save Fry? Robot Devil

So ... clearly Bender assigned the numbers 1-5 to the Robot Devil and 6-10 to Leela's wrist computer, used a number randomizer to pick a number between 1 and 10, and got a 3. It's the only rational answer.
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« Reply #272 on: 07-04-2011 16:19 »

There had to have been microwave radiation or something to kill him in that booth. The bullets wouldn't have done so I don't think...? I am thinking of the scene in Bender Gets Made when they shoot a barrage of bullets at one robot, and DonBot says, "Let that be a warning to you" and the bullet-ridden robot replies, "Thank you, DonBot."

This brings up an issue I had with the killing of mini Benders in Benderama as well. Bullets killed some of them, too. Explanations...?
Maybe they were Diamondium bullets?
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« Reply #273 on: 07-04-2011 22:15 »



This brings up an issue I had with the killing of mini Benders in Benderama as well. Bullets killed some of them, too. Explanations...?

They could have the same defect since they are duplicates. And I would have to think any machine after a certain amount of damage will simply be unable to be repaired.
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« Reply #274 on: 07-04-2011 22:19 »

All the destroyed little Benders were uploaded into the Cloud, where they promptly hid themselves and now operate the universe's most profitable botnet.
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« Reply #275 on: 07-04-2011 22:23 »

I have seen 3 normal guns in Season 6A and B of Futurama, where are the Laser Guns and Ray Guns guys? frown

Yeah they are still there a few times, but what's with the sudden addition of normal present-day weapons? hmpf
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« Reply #276 on: 07-04-2011 23:19 »

I recall laser guns or similar guns in 6ACV01 and 6ACV11. I remember a regular gun in 6ACV17. What other appearances?
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« Reply #277 on: 07-04-2011 23:52 »

I recall laser guns or similar guns in 6ACV01 and 6ACV11. I remember a regular gun in 6ACV17. What other appearances?

Professor shoots Bender with a normal pistol in 'Benderama', the gun shot sound and look like an average gun in Lynn in 'Ghost in the Machines' and there was one in 'Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences' I think... hmpf
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« Reply #278 on: 07-04-2011 23:53 »

I recall laser guns or similar guns in 6ACV01 and 6ACV11. I remember a regular gun in 6ACV17. What other appearances?

Professor shoots Bender with a normal pistol in 'Benderama', the gun shot sound and look like an average gun in Lynn in 'Ghost in the Machines' and there was one in 'Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences' I think... hmpf

You don't mistake the one in 6ACV11 for the two appearing laser guns? There is the Professor's teleportation gun (used by Ndnd at Grrrl and Fry) and there is Matt Groening's laser gun.
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« Reply #279 on: 07-05-2011 00:07 »
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Maybe all these 21st century references and technologies are part of a larger plot arc. In a future episode, we'll likely see Leela walking by herself through the PE ship, only for part of the bulkhead to slide away, a female Nibblonian with an eyepatch say "No, I think she's just dreaming," and then everything return the way it was. Then Bender, along with all the other robots, will start suffering mysterious CPU process threads, seemingly caused by a patch being installed onto a digital reality. As it'll turn out, the Brainspawn have managed to destroy reality in a battle subsequently erased from human memory, and the entire universe is running as a hologrammatic simulation extracted from Fry's memories, hence the numerous contemporary references. The robots are the only ones who realize this, however, hence the patch to try and distract them from their suspicions, and of course, the heavy Bender-centric nature of this season's episodes and the introduction of a "cloud" plane that only robots can enter. Leela, meanwhile, pregnant with Fry's child, the only one who can defeat the Brainspawn and restore the universe, has been kidnapped by the Nibblonians and kept physically safe, plugged into the same virtual simulation that everyone else is living in, but in order to keep psychological indications of her pregnancy from showing, they've had to mask her feelings for Fry so that she is not aware of how their relationship should be progressing.

You'll see. This all makes perfect sense.
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