BWABB goofs

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A few things about BWABB didn't quite make sense.  First off, how were all of the robots in Bender's army able to hurt Yivo?  There wasn't enough electromatter in that letter that Fry wrote to coat all of their weapons, and Bender's sword was the only one that was pink.  And even if you ignore that, how was Bender able to cut up the electromatter to coat his sword?  The stuff is supposed to be indestructible!

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Not only that, but if electrical devices cannot go through the anomalie, how did Fry manage to get in while wearing a space suit? In the same scene, Kif was in space without a space suit... I can't say I remember seeing Kif in space without a suit before.

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Good points! Maybe they cloned the electromatter, making enough to go around?  And maybe in the Futurama universe, space suits aren't electrical devices (kind of like a SCUBA tank).

(Repeating to self:  It's just a cartoon, it's just a cartoon, it's just a cartoon....)

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Originally posted by Tarasov:

Not only that, but if electrical devices cannot go through the anomalie, how did Fry manage to get in while wearing a space suit? In the same scene, Kif was in space without a space suit... I can't say I remember seeing Kif in space without a suit before.

Even more confusing... How could they talk to each other in space? 

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It's the future.

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your solution doesnt allow us to spend inordinant amounts of time analysing every minute detail of the series.  Therefore, it must be wrong.

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My solution only applies to the talking in space... by all means spend inordinant amounts of time analyzing the other minute details.

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Originally posted by Xanfor:
 Even more confusing... How could they talk to each other in space?   

Why, they use the magical powers of children's card games of course! Seriously though, the space suit only had one electrical device on it, which was the oxygen tank, which did fail. Everything else wasn't electronic.

On a sidenote, I saw someone the other day that looked quite like your avatar Xanfor...

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Originally posted by Professor Zoidy:
 Why, they use the magical powers of children's card games of course! Seriously though, the space suit only had one electrical device on it, which was the oxygen tank, which did fail. Everything else wasn't electronic.

On a sidenote, I saw someone the other day that looked quite like your avatar Xanfor...

BUT, the oxygen tank failed because it was struck by lighting.

In my opinion, they should've had Fry's oxygen thingy fly off his back instead of actually going in the universe with him.

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I actually had a further question in my mind.... Why can't robots go through the anomaly?  Is it because they have electricity running through them?  Is it because they're made of metal?  I figured it was the latter... and then harpoons made it through the anomaly very easily.

At any rate.... the attacking Yivo thing didn't technically make sense... but it made for good scenes.

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Assuming diamondium is based on diamond it will be made simply of carbon, making it non-metallic and thus able to pass through the anomaly.

Although how they managed to pierce Yivo is another matter.

EDIT: I got confused and posted this elsewhere, but it should be here really:

True. The pink is there on the harpoons so somehow the Robots managed to rip up the letter, but not all the swords have electro-matter, and even the Diamondium cannon wouldn't harm the tentacle when it first appeared.

Having said that, I imagine Yivo being completely out of shkler own universe will have made shkler more vulnerable to attacks than when shklee was simply reaching in with shkler tentacles.

But how Bender managed to split/rip/break that electro-matter is anyone's guess.

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Originally posted by soylentOrange:
A few things about BWABB didn't quite make sense.  First off, how were all of the robots in Bender's army able to hurt Yivo?  There wasn't enough electromatter in that letter that Fry wrote to coat all of their weapons, and Bender's sword was the only one that was pink.  And even if you ignore that, how was Bender able to cut up the electromatter to coat his sword?  The stuff is supposed to be indestructible!

I didn't really think the electromatter was the big problem as much as Yivo being out of it's universe- that was my tacit understanding of what was really causing shklim harm.
As for the electromatter swords, perhaps the robot devil had something to do with that as well?

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I cant think of a way to make pieces of the electro-letter so I guess what might have made more sense is just one Diamondium harpoon with the electro-matter letter folded (cause it can be folded) around the hook to drag Yivo out.

Once shklee's out of shkler universe you can make up anything you want.

How do you break up electro-matter? Maybe Nibbler helped them out, you never know.

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Maybe you can break the electro-matter on itself.  By bending it and tearing it upon itself.... I think it's possible.

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Or perhaps it was re-forged in robot hell! 

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I like your thinking, winna - we all know how nasty paper cuts can be.     

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Originally posted by ShepherdofShark:
How do you break up electro-matter? Maybe Nibbler helped them out, you never know.

Oh? I do believe Nibbler left the universe in BBS.

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Originally posted by Tarasov:
 Oh? I do believe Nibbler left the universe in BBS.

Yes I know he did, but he could always have come back. Isn't he allowed to come back?

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What interest would Nibbler have had in helping the robots bring shklim down? They seem to stay out of matters that don't involve the fate of the universe so I guess if the fate of the universe were involved then...yea...

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The fate of the universe kind of being involved when every living thing goes to another universe, yea?

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Originally posted by winna:
The fate of the universe kind of being involved when every living thing goes to another universe, yea?

Perhaps, but I was thinking more along the lines of "universe-ending" events....

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When the tentacles are attacking All Space Insurance Agency, we can see Steve Castle, a.k.a. "That Guy" running away from them. Steve should be long dead now after it was declared in his premiere episode that his boneitus killed him. Clone maybe, or perhaps long-lost great-great-great-whatever grandson who's line first began from crazy 80's sexual intercourse?

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Originally posted by Professor Zoidy:
 Why, they use the magical powers of children's card games of course!

That, and Fry can do anything he wants because he's voiced by Dan Green Billy West. Not sure about Kif, though. 

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Originally posted by ALequalsGREAT:
 Perhaps, but I was thinking more along the lines of "universe-ending" events....

well, pardon my ignorance but... if the universe is no longer inhabited by living organisms (excluding plants of course... I think) then isn't that a form of the universe ending?

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And now to get totally anal, some technical goofs. The best kind of goofs.

Morgan's badge varies in color and shape from scene to scene:

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She probably got promoted and demoted several times during the course of the movie. Look how fast Hermes rank changed in "How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back."

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Originally posted by limegreenaffair:
 well, pardon my ignorance but... if the universe is no longer inhabited by living organisms (excluding plants of course... I think) then isn't that a form of the universe ending?

Not a particularly scary form, but yes that argument could be made. Don't think nibbler was too concerned about that though. It's just that Yivo invaded the whole universe, and not a single being on any planet could harm shclim. If shcle wanted to, shcle could have easily killed every living thing in our universe off without any trouble. It isn't likely Nibbler knew anything about Yivo other than that shcle existed, could easily invade every living planet, and couldn't be harmed by anything in our universe.

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He probably didn't even know that much. I don't think even the Nibblonians had ever been to another universe. They definitly never went to Yivo's because Fry was the first living thing shcle ever met.

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I dont think Nibbler left Universe A because he knew Yivo would show up.  It was probably more of a 'holy frack the universe just ripped open we're all going to die' reaction.

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Originally posted by soylentOrange:
I dont think Nibbler left Universe A because he knew Yivo would show up.  It was probably more of a 'holy frack the universe just ripped open we're all going to die' reaction.

My thoughts exactly.

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If someone could framegrab this, I'd appreciate it...but when Fry has Colleen brought to him after he's made Pope, there's a shot of her talking to him, and if you look closely at the shadow of her arm, you can see two shadows.

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Here:



And another (Inez's eye vanish for a while):

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Originally posted by soylentOrange:
I dont think Nibbler left Universe A because he knew Yivo would show up.  It was probably more of a 'holy frack the universe just ripped open we're all going to die' reaction.

His race probably has some sort of prophecy for the event.  Also note that I've never seen two nibblonians have sexual relations in cannon... Could be they have a problem with that sort of thing.... which would make some sense, since they're super super old.... they'd have populated the entire universe given the amount of time they've been around in it.  It would also explain Nibbler's absence in the movie.

With the shadow thing, I say there's multiple light sources and her right arm is slightly in front of her body.  Either that or it's a nibblonian.... 

Also... on the Inez thing... don't asian people's eyes disappear all the time?  Sometimes I can't see them anyways.... 

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Thanks, Futz! 

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Originally posted by limegreenaffair:
 well, pardon my ignorance but... if the universe is no longer inhabited by living organisms (excluding plants of course... I think) then isn't that a form of the universe ending?

Semantics, eh? I never really thought of "ending" as anything except just that. It would qualify as the end of life as we know it, but hardly the end of the universe (although to be fair it wouldn't be much of a universe without intelligent life  ). My only point was that the Nibblonians wouldn't have intervened.
Thanks for the vigilance and screenshots futz 

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Originally posted by winna:
 His race probably has some sort of prophecy for the event.  Also note that I've never seen two nibblonians have sexual relations in cannon... Could be they have a problem with that sort of thing.... which would make some sense, since they're super super old.... they'd have populated the entire universe given the amount of time they've been around in it.  It would also explain Nibbler's absence in the movie.

With the shadow thing, I say there's multiple light sources and her right arm is slightly in front of her body.  Either that or it's a nibblonian....   

Also... on the Inez thing... don't asian people's eyes disappear all the time?  Sometimes I can't see them anyways....   

I agree with the arm shadow. Her right hand is in a postition that it could very well have a shadow on both sides of her, depending on the lighting.

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If you watch the scene (cough) it's more like an duplicate shadow moving a few frames behind where it should. Sort of like a shadow from one of those extra mystery arms that appear once in a while.



Lots of friends in Chinatown huh Winna? Actually it happens in another scene to someone else. I'll just have to find it again. Ah, there she is on the right:

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Originally posted by futz:

Many species throughout the universe have an irrational fear of the dark. But they're wrong.

Because it's not irrational.

It's the Vashta Nerada.

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Maybe Colleen should consider putting her helmet on (for all the good it would do)

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Originally posted by NastyInThePasty:
... when Fry has Colleen brought to him after he's made Pope, there's a shot of her talking to him, and if you look closely as the shadow of her arm, you can see two shadows.

Excellent catch.

Originally posted by winna:
With the shadow thing, I say there's multiple light sources and her right arm is slightly in front of her body.

 

Originally posted by Professor Zoidy:
I agree with the arm shadow. Her right hand is in a postition that it could very well have a shadow on both sides of her, depending on the lighting.

Multiple light sources. Very possible.

About six-thousand years ago, I recall reading a blurb - in ‘Ripley’s Believe It or Not!’ (believe it or not) - that shadows cast on oil persist for some time. If Yivo’s skin/ entegument/ exterior/ whatever exudes the right kind of oil... hmm...