bend_her
Professor
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The lower picture could have been taken before he had the hand swap since he had the Holophoner for a while. ...except he sucked at playing when he had regular hands... unless those are "Fry before the miracle" recordings. Which may also explain why they're $14.99 for two CDs. I just call them squishy green dudes, but they're from the Amphibios system, so I guess they're actually called Amphibiosans or something similar. How about just "Amphibians" I fear that pic is going to start a whole Leela/Kif 'ship thread sometime!
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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Bend-er: There isn't a rule in the music industry that the album cover pic has to be taken at the same time the music is recorded. It could be an old picture or an old pic that was Photoshoped. Dave A: Neither of which are necessary to score. I think you may be forgetting the context in which Fry made the statement. Hmmm... always thought amphibians had bones like them big frog-like Omicronians (hee-hee). Shippy - argh! Here's a real techno-whoops from the same episode. Note Leela's hand, in the full animated scene she appears to be steering the wheel while her hand is inside the wheel.
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David A
Space Pope
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Originally posted by bend_her: How about just "Amphibians" Nah. Then they'd just have the same name as a type of animal. That's boring. I mean, Zoidberg's people aren't Decapods; they're Decapodians. It sounds more science-fictiony that way. Originally posted by futz: Neither of which are necessary to score. Maybe not for humans or Decapodians, but obviously Kif's people reproduce differently. I think you may be forgetting the context in which Fry made the statement. "Please. I'd know if a guy was doing that with me. Wait a minute! They've all been doing that! Even Sean!" I suppose that the smizmar could fake it in order to get the other partner into a receptive state, but what would be the point? It's not like they have sex. All they do is hold hands.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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Assuming sex is a logical process.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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It can be done! Anywhoo, I was doing some framegrabs of the Popplers episode this morning and checked the salt question: Hard to tell at animation speed but they did not forget about the salt.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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I guess Kif would be more like a squid or octopus, he even said he had a beak I think. I wonder if his species is similar to the Trisolians (aquapod?). Maybe he's just a land sea squid, not to be confused with a land sea lion.
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by futz: I guess Kif would be more like a squid or octopus, he even said he had a beak I think. First, Kif has no visible beak, but in early development drawings he did.Also, in “KGKUaN,” I think, Amy said something like, “Oh Kif, Let me kiss your lipless beak.” Zoidberg has characteristics common to cephalopods (IE. octopi, squids, cuttlefish, & nautiloids) of tentacles around the mouth, squirting ink, and a shell. Yes, some Cephalopods have a shell. I refer to Nautiloids. As for bones, the cuttlefish does have a bone-like part called a cuttlebone, so while Kif may have no bones, he may have solid parts. Congratulations! You’re now graduates of Spacecase’s school of Taxonomy! You may expect a certificate suitable for framing or lining a birdcage in 6 to 10 weeks...Now I’m going to do you all the best favor I can. [*SC Bites own tongue*]
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bend_her
Professor
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Not necessarily a goof. Remember Cubert and Dwight return ownership of PE back to their parents, after they mess up.
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by ivan_fry: In "The Route of All Evil", Cubert and Dwight paint the Planet Express ship red. However, at the end of the episode (when they're finally delivering the newspapers) it's reverted back to the normal green ship. Originally posted by bend_her: Not necessarily a goof. Remember Cubert and Dwight return ownership of PE back to their parents, after they mess up. Originally posted by ivan_fry: Yeah, but technically it's still Cubert and Dwight's company when they deliver all of the papers, so the ship should still be painted red... Water based paint? Paint burns off on re-entry? Eroded off by flying through space dust? Didn't have enough time to dry/cure? Or far more likely: CHEAP PAINT!
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by David A: Technically, neither one of them would be any type of earth animal at all. They might superfically resemble such creatures, but extraterrestrial life would not evolve in the same ways that terrestrial life has, and aliens would not fit into the classifications that we use. They wouldn't just be different phyla; they'd be entirely separate kingdoms. Essentially, I agree with you. E.T. life could still share characteristics with Earthly life: - Does it use photosynthesis, respiration, both, or something else to live?
- Does it have a shell, exoskeleton, or anything rigid to support it?
- Does it have something akin to a notchcord?
- Does it reproduce sexually, or asexually?
- Does it have one cell, or many?
- Does it move?
- Does it breathe?
- Does it breathe gas, liquid or what?
- Does it use lungs, gills, both, or something else?
I’ll stop there. Regardless of where life evolves, it will face similar challenges, the same limitations of physics and chemistry, and it may well evolve along similar lines. But we won’t know that until we see some.
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David A
Space Pope
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Originally posted by SpaceCase: Regardless of where life evolves, it will face similar challenges, the same limitations of physics and chemistry, and it may well evolve along similar lines. Similar lines, but not the same ones. A shark, an ichthyosaur, and a dolphin may look alike, but one is a fish, one is a reptile, and one is a mammal. They evolved along similar lines to fill similar ecological niches, but they evolved from different ancestors. Zoidberg may look like a cephalopod or a crustacean, but he isn't one anymore than an ichthyosaur or a dolphin is a fish. In fact, cephalopods and crustaceans are more closely related to redwood trees and bacteria than they would be to Zoidberg, because if you go back far enough, they all share a common ancestor which Zoidberg doesn't share. That's why I say that aliens wouldn't fit into any of the groups that we currently use to classify terrestrial life, but would instead be entirely separate kingdoms.
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FryDude3000
Crustacean
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i dont know if this was seid but on voleom 2 on the specel fetrs screen it states nibbler is 3277 years old
(excuse my horable spelling)
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by David A: A shark, an ichthyosaur, and a dolphin may look alike, but one is a fish, one is a reptile, and one is a mammal. They evolved along similar lines to fill similar ecological niches, but they evolved from different ancestors. You make my point for me. Originally posted by David A: Zoidberg may look like a cephalopod or a crustacean, but he isn't one anymore than an ichthyosaur or a dolphin is a fish. In fact, cephalopods and crustaceans are more closely related to redwood trees and bacteria than they would be to Zoidberg, because if you go back far enough, they all share a common ancestor which Zoidberg doesn't share. Again no disagreement. Originally posted by David A: That's why I say that aliens wouldn't fit into any of the groups that we currently use to classify terrestrial life, but would instead be entirely separate kingdoms. Seperate kingdoms? Fine. We can still classify E.T. life by applying the same rules of Linnaean taxonomy, IE classification by shared sharacteristics. I'll shut up now...
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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by saucie: I think you're both in agreement with each other. I agree too. Classification is just a human invention, and a subjective one at that. Consensus doesn't constitute veracity. And thus the great flaw of democracy.
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FuturamaPac
Professor
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This is just something i've noticed. In 'Hell is Other Robots' the Robot Devil is taller than Fry and Leela, but then in 'The Devil's hands are idle playthings' he's the same height as everyone else. The crew couldn't have got taller because they're still the same height in relation to everything else, and Beelzebot couldn't have shrunk because he's a robot... unless robots shrink.
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FuturamaPac
Professor
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Oh yeah... maybe he made himself taller to look more intimidating.
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Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
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I got one. Although it might have been discussed already but I couldn't find it when I searched.
If Decapoidians die after they reproduce then how can Zoidberg's mother still be alive when he is a child? Or when he goes the medical school for that matter?
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Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
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Oh ok. I guess I missed that thanks futz.
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km73
Space Pope
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Something has been bothering me for a long time about "Leela's Homeworld"--I don't know if this has been brought up before but not in this thread, anyway. After Fry & Bender go back up to the surface and Leela dives in the lake and starts chasing her parents, Bender has time to get a new contract for waste-dumping or whatever, and even comes back and dumps some stuff in the sewer. Meanwhile Fry has time to visit the orphanarium, talk to the warden, go back to the PE office, get the Professor to work his machine....all apparently while L is running thru the sewer after her parents?? What is up with that? Also, in another episode L comes into the room while Fry and some others are at a table w/ cards and stuff on it and then in the next shot, all the things on the table are gone. I'm sorry, I'm not certain which episode, but i think it might be "Less Than Hero."
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Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
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Interestingly enough I was thinking the same thing about "Leela's Homeworld" a few days ago and came to the conclusion that I haven't got a clue as to how that works.
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