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Invader Jenny

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« on: 08-24-2006 11:22 »

I'm sure that the writers had no intention of actually leaving the toilet sandwich worms in Fry in "Parasites Lost," but something came across my mind last night.  Actually I dreamed it and when I woke up it made a lot of sense to me.

If for some reason Fry couldn't have gotten the worms out of him, eventually they would have killed him.  It wouldn't be intentional by the worms (why would they kill the known universe?), but like any parasite left in long enough death eventually comes to the host.

They had already set up society in Fry's intestines, and if you notice how big the city was, no nutritional material was going to get past that road block.  Eventually Fry would be come sick with malnutrition and eventually die.

Hey, it made sense to me this morning when I woke up.  Apparently I can't have normal dream about Abraham Lincoln and chess playing beavers.  I have to dream about "what if" stories involving Futurama.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #1 on: 08-24-2006 13:23 »

Quite frankly, the worms did not have a parasitic symbiotic relationship with Fry.  That would mean the worms benefit at Fry's expense.  Rather, they had a mutualistic symbiotic relationship, in which both entities benefit.  Fry becomes a god-like man among men, and the worms have a place to live.  So right there your "like any parasite left in long enough death eventually comes to the host" point is out.

"and if you notice how big the city was, no nutritional material was going to get past that road block."

Just because we weren't shown the worms' method of delivering nutrients to Fry doesn't mean that such a mechanism doesn't exist.  In fact, they probably streamlined and improved that process, as well.
Invader Jenny

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« Reply #2 on: 08-24-2006 13:38 »

True, but a tape worm or a heart worm don't want the host to die other wise they will loose their own life.  Yet time and time again, so many creatures die as a result of having these parasites, directly or indirectly.  I just assumed that at somepoint Fry would die from them.
Dave B

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« Reply #3 on: 08-24-2006 13:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Invader Jenny:
True, but a tape worm or a heart worm don't want the host to die other wise they will loose their own life.  Yet time and time again, so many creatures die as a result of having these parasites, directly or indirectly.  I just assumed that at somepoint Fry would die from them.

But Jenny as Nixorbo said there is a mutualistic relationship to benefit both Fry and the parasites so as the parasites 'universe' expanded Fry would just become a greater and greater degree of perfection of a human with no side affects in play really. So I disagree and think that he wouldn't eventually die from the parasites but only benefit more and more until his parasite unrelated death...  smile
Teral

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« Reply #4 on: 08-24-2006 14:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Invader Jenny:
True, but a tape worm or a heart worm don't want the host to die other wise they will loose their own life.

The worms in Fry were sentient, a tape work or heart worm isn't. The Futurama worms were able to make decisions based on what benefitted them most in the long run, and thus keeping Fry alive and in perfect health/condition was seen as their best chance for survival.
Dave B

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« Reply #5 on: 08-24-2006 14:25 »
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Originally posted by Teral:
 The worms in Fry were sentient, a tape work or heart worm isn't. The Futurama worms were able to make decisions based on what benefitted them most in the long run, and thus keeping Fry alive and in perfect health/condition was seen as their best chance for survival.

Yes, thats the Biological explanation for what we all mean lol, nice explanation there Teral   wink
TomAllen

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« Reply #6 on: 08-25-2006 08:43 »

Aha!  But now I pose the counterargument to Invader Jenny's post.  Suppose the worms are not parasites, as tapeworms would be.  Suppose they are, as they were revealed to be, sentient.  Does that indeed imply that they are harmless?

What if, the longer they stayed in Fry, the more they took control of Fry's body and consciousness?  Would you, fellow humans, allow other organisms to take you over?  (Politics aside.)  Would you feel satisfied not knowing whether you or the worms wrote the sonnet to Leela, or seduced her with the holophonor?

Myself, I'm still not sure whether I'd accept the worms in exchange for a healthier mind and body.  They would at least improve my posts, true.  But is that a fair trade, or a deal with the metaphorical devil?
David A

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« Reply #7 on: 08-25-2006 12:09 »

As Tongue Luck already pointed out here, keeping the worms probably would have been fatal to Fry, but not for any of the reasons mentioned here.
Shiny

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« Reply #8 on: 08-26-2006 00:22 »
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Originally posted by David A:
As Tongue Luck already pointed out here, keeping the worms probably would have been fatal to Fry, but not for any of the reasons mentioned here.

Whee!  That's hil-hairy-ass.    laff

Wait - now I remember that I miss Tongue Luck.  I made myself sad.     frown

But how bizarre and enlightening is it to go read a thread that took place when Nerd-o-rama was a shy, scared newby?     evil laugh

   tongue

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David A

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« Reply #9 on: 08-26-2006 14:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
But how bizarre and enlightening is it to go read a thread that took place when Nerd-o-rama was a shy, scared newby?      evil laugh

To be honest, I still kinda see him that way, although I'm not sure where he got the idea that I know all of the mods personally.
Futurama Llama

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« Reply #10 on: 08-27-2006 08:09 »

Where did Tongue Luck go?

And also I agree with her. That is a good reason that the worms would be fatal.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #11 on: 08-27-2006 11:50 »
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I was scared of all the flashy stars.  At that point, I only had about two to my name, and I'd only been here for a (very hectic) week.  As for knowing the mods...even I have no idea where I came up with that.  Addressing them by their real names, maybe?
 
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To be honest, I still kinda see him that way
And I like to think of myself as reserved and polite (sometimes), thank you very much.

I also think nearly two years of consistent contributions make me "not a newby," but I'm sure that as an '02 vintage, you'd disagree.

Oh, and I both agree with and really miss Tongue Luck.
bendito

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« Reply #12 on: 09-06-2006 17:49 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
As Tongue Luck already pointed out here, keeping the worms probably would have been fatal to Fry, but not for any of the reasons mentioned here.
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Whee! That's hil-hairy-ass.
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I agree

also, i think the worms would have eventually taken total control of fry's body and conciousness and who would want that?



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