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Bend-aid

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« on: 07-24-2006 10:57 »

I've got a question, why is it that when fry is walking nibbler in "The Why of Fry" he isnt wearing a diaper, and if he poops darkmatter how can the diaper hold the weight? AND in Obsoletely Fabulos, he has a litterbox???

              WILL SOMEONE MAKE UP THEIR MIND?!  eek
TomAllen

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« Reply #1 on: 07-24-2006 11:07 »

Oooh!  Ick!  Well, since you ask.

Maybe Nibbler has his normal -- um -- deliveries, and then at other times he -- um -- produces the dark matter.

Fortunately, and because the Nibblonians are so advanced, production of dark matter may well occur only when the plot demands it.  Otherwise it's just the, well, icky stuff.

Nibblonians are certainly legendary poopers.  But if so, um, I don't want to hear all the details of their legends.
001001001001

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« Reply #2 on: 07-24-2006 19:52 »

*Celebrated poopers


and possibly the diapers in the future are made from super complex micro-fibers than can hold up to the weight of 1,000 suns.
Xanfor

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« Reply #3 on: 07-24-2006 20:06 »

Mr. Money, I want to know what keeps the Earth from falling in onto this mass of a thousand suns.  wink

Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #4 on: 07-24-2006 21:13 »

Ladies and Gentlemen, On-Topic has hit a new low...
Xanfor

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« Reply #5 on: 07-24-2006 21:27 »

Rejoice, rejoice, and be glad! You're invited! Join us Nerds, with a capital 'N'. Come over to the dark side...  eek   tongue

Shiny

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« Reply #6 on: 07-25-2006 00:29 »

Shiny glances at the genders of the posters in this thread, and confirms her suspicion that they are all male.

Obviously, you guys have never taken care of a someone/something that needs diapers.  wink

The answer to the riddle is: the soft, absorbent diaper is for liquid waste.  The solid dark matter, conveniently spherical, just rolls right out of one of the diaper's leg holes to go "THUD" on the ground. 

Thus concludes your lesson in didy physics.  tongue
ClonedWizard

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« Reply #7 on: 07-25-2006 02:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Xanfor:
Mr. Money, I want to know what keeps the Earth from falling in onto this mass of a thousand suns.   wink

Well, we know from "Love's Labours Lost in Space" that each pound of dark matter weighs over ten thousand pounds.  Furthermore, we have Fry's admission that Nibbler's poop  weighed as much as a thousand suns.  I looked all that up to be sure of it (I'm assuming the transcripts at The Leela Zone via the Neutral Planet are accurate).

Couple of things to point out.  Given the first nonsensical piece of information, the weight of the thousand suns must be divided by 10,000 to get the dark matter dropping's actual "weight".  Also, the dropping weighs "as much as" a thousand suns.  So this particular dropping may weigh significantly less than that.  Plus, it's Fry giving this estimate who has shown a tendency for overestimating by several orders of magnitude (from the pilot: "My god!  A million years!" when only 1000 have passed).  Finally, it apparently weighs as much a thousand suns; no one said it had the mass of a thousand suns.  It's dark matter: something that is not currently very well understood, so there could be more explanation there.

* looks around *

Wait, this isn't the time travel thread?   eek  I can't just sputter out a partially educated theory or question?

I kid.  How was that sputterance for an explanation?  I had a lot of fun writing it.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #8 on: 07-25-2006 04:15 »
« Last Edit on: 08-01-2006 00:00 by [-mArc-] »

[that was too much, don't go that far again]
Dai

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« Reply #9 on: 07-25-2006 07:53 »

That may well be the sickest thing I've ever heard in my life, what the fuck is wrong with you? Talking about retards being gang raped doesn't impress anyone, who cares how long you've been here, your going to get banned. You're pathetic, go kill yourself.
soylentOrange

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« Reply #10 on: 07-25-2006 08:22 »

 
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Plus, it's Fry giving this estimate who has shown a tendency for overestimating by several orders of magnitude (from the pilot: "My god! A million years!"

yeah that's what I always thought.  I mean, the ball of darkmatter doesn't even crack the sidewalk when it hits.  So unless concrete is made out of neutronium in the future the darkmatter can't weigh that much.  Also, if 10000 suns worth of gravitational force were to appear spontaneously right at your feet you'd instantly be crushed into a few micron thick spherical shell around the object. 
tyraniak

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« Reply #11 on: 07-25-2006 13:05 »

I'm sure the poop can way up to and including ten thousand pounds, I'm sure when nibbler said his poop weighed as much as a thousand suns, he was just exaggerating, like when someone says, it's like 500 degrees outside, niblonians are celebrated poopers, so they probably playfully exaggerate the weight of their poop
Bend-aid

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« Reply #12 on: 07-27-2006 08:09 »

Well, i KNOW it was a weird topic and i was just wondering, But thanks for some great ideas.

as for you "lamp" I have this to say: YOU SUCK AND FOR LASHING OUT AT AN INNOCENT YOU ARE NOW ONE OF THE WORST PEOPLE EVER! JERK!!!
TomAllen

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« Reply #13 on: 07-27-2006 15:59 »

I like Shiny's explanation the best so far.  It's way better than mine.  Although we are still talking about icky-doody and pee-pee.  (And I'm not just referring to the troll.)

Shiny's point would also explain why the planet Eternium, home of the Nibblonians, has not imploded like Vergon Six.  Celebrated (thanks, 001001001001) poopers though the Nibblonians are, they presumably ship the dark matter elsewhere.

I was almost ashamed to post this, but then I thought, who else but shippers would be having such a discussion?  And why?  And why not?
Xanfor

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« Reply #14 on: 07-28-2006 16:18 »

Shiny, you are not the only person here who has taken care of someone in diapers. Shame on you! Some of us merely wish to forget.  wink

Shiny

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« Reply #15 on: 07-28-2006 21:22 »

Well, you didn't venture an opinion on diapernetics, commenting rather on the "mass of a thousand suns" thing and the pleasures of giving in to the Nerd Side of the Force, so I stand by my guess, with the following qualifyer: those who did question the usefulness of Nibbler's diapers in this thread have obviously not taken care of a diapered being.   


And I'm back to thinking that LampIncident's logon has been taken over by a troll. Whoever it is, I hope the Karma Fairy dumps his "winnings" on him VERY soon.
shinyass

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« Reply #16 on: 07-29-2006 12:58 »

What do the PE do with nibbler's poop? Do they use it as fuel? Or leave it for the owls?
SpaceCase

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« Reply #17 on: 07-29-2006 13:45 »

 
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Originally posted by shinyass:
What do the PE do with nibbler's poop? Do they use it as fuel?
Presumably, they use it as fuel - or at least a fuel supplement - as they did in "BBA."
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Or leave it for the owls?
My alcohol content must be below 0.08% 'cuz I'm not following you here; what possible use could Owls have for dark matter? Or Nibblers feces, for that matter?
   confused
tyraniak

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« Reply #18 on: 07-29-2006 17:10 »

In the world of Futurama, owls have replaced rats and Pigeons for being animals that cause infestation
shinyass

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« Reply #19 on: 07-29-2006 18:43 »

Thank you for beating me for explanation.
im_his_brother

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« Reply #20 on: 07-29-2006 19:26 »

personally i think the sun may not weigh a lot...its just made a plasma and gas neither of which weigh very much but i could be wrong due to its size...
SpaceCase

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« Reply #21 on: 07-30-2006 07:48 »

 
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Originally posted by im_his_brother:
personally i think the sun may not weigh a lot...
Not one for astronomy, ay?  wink
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... its just made a plasma and gas neither of which weigh very much but i could be wrong due to its size...
[Long Version:]
Consider the planets.
There's Pluto, the least massive, then Mercury, Mars, Venus, Earth, Uranus- er, Urectum & Neptune, then Saturn, and rounding out the bunch, Jupiter, the most massive planet in the solar system.
Jupiter is a thousand or two times more massive than Earth.
Throw in the asteroids, comets, assorted moons, and Kuipier(sp?) belt objects.
Stir, season to taste, and serve on an Ecliptic plane.
Oh, sorry. I haven't eaten yet...  roll eyes
[*Ahem*]

Add up the mass of all of 'em.

Now consider one Earth-mass is about 6.6 x 10^21 tons (thats "sextillion" for us lay-people).

We're talking about one [EXPLETIVES DELETED] of a lot of mass: On the order of tens-of-thousands of giga-tons.

Now consider that Sol must have enough mass to to exert enough gravitation to keep the whole assemblege from flying apart at the seams!

[Grabs im_his_brother's had, shakes vigorously]
Congranulations! Yer now a grad-gee-ut of SpaceCase's school of Planetary Astronomy.
In six to eight weeks you may expect a certificate suitable for framing, or lining a bird-cage...
  tongue   laff

[Short Version:]
The mass of the rest of the whole solar system is less than ~0.1% of the mass of Sol.
In other words, Sol is so ridiculously massive, that we run out of "-illions" to describe it.
(Millions, billions, trillions, etc.)

If Nibbler's... ah... leavings were anywhere near as massive as Fry suggests, they'd be as dense as a Neutron star, and exerting enough gravitation to pull adjacent objects onto/ into it. Nearby things like, oh, Nibbler, Fry, the sidewalk, the steetlamp...
New New York!
dawoodz
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« Reply #22 on: 07-30-2006 11:20 »
« Last Edit on: 08-01-2006 00:00 by [-mArc-] »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
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My DAD was stood behind me when I read that and deemed PEEL as a bad influence on my development as a natural HUMNAN being.
im_his_brother

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« Reply #23 on: 07-30-2006 11:21 »

u hav a valid  point spacecase, however it seems like ur talkin more about mass then weight...
gravity is dictated by mass...weight is dependent on gravity, becuase weight is the measure of the pulling force of gravity on any givin object...and if i recall correctly fry said it weighed as much as 10,000 suns

and also...is there anyway to get that certificate delivered faster?
SpaceCase

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« Reply #24 on: 07-30-2006 12:30 »

 
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Originally posted by im_his_brother:
... and also... is there anyway to get that certificate delivered faster?
I'm sorry; no there isn't.
It's a very labor-intensive process, as I personally engrave each and every certificate... on wet newspaper.
This is made doubly difficult because I must use crayon in lieu of  calligraphy pens, as here at "The Home," they don't allow us near sharp objects...  laff

I'm ReAdY fOr My ThOrAzInE nOw, DoCtOr... %^}
 big grin
tyraniak

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« Reply #25 on: 07-30-2006 12:30 »

Fry might've also over exaggerated so the cops wouldn't think he's a pussy for not being able to lift it up
Chug a Bug

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« Reply #26 on: 07-30-2006 13:21 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2006 13:21 »

         
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Originally posted by im_his_brother:
personally i think the sun may not weigh a lot...its just made a plasma and gas neither of which weigh very much but i could be wrong due to its size...

You're forgetting density which in the case of the sun is high especially the core which is small in area but contains half it's mass.

         
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
If Nibbler's... ah... leavings were anywhere near as massive as Fry suggests, they'd be as dense as a Neutron star, and exerting enough gravitation to pull adjacent objects onto/ into it. Nearby things like, oh, Nibbler, Fry, the sidewalk, the steetlamp...

If it was that dense it would fall clean through the Earth to the core and then out the other side first!
Xanfor

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« Reply #27 on: 07-30-2006 14:06 »

No, actually, the Earth would have been pulled towards it. Although who are we to say what's moving and what's not?  wink

Chug a Bug

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« Reply #28 on: 07-30-2006 15:11 »

A spoonful of neutron star, about the size of Nibblers poop, weighs around a billion tons. The Earth is still much the heavier.  wink
SpaceCase

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« Reply #29 on: 07-30-2006 16:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Chug a Bug:
A spoonful of neutron star, about the size of Nibblers poop, weighs around a billion tons. The Earth is still much the heavier.   wink
First, I take it we are discussing neutronium.
Assuming this, a teaspoon-full of the stuff weighs about as much a large ocean-liner. Nibbler's feces are, what? 6 Or 7 cm. in diameter? I don't have the numbers available or I'd do the math, but were Nibbler's droppings as dense as neutron-star material, they'd amass multiple megatons each - megatons, gigatons: Whatever!
They'd still be massive to repeatedly punch through Earth as easily as a needle through cloth.
And, not always in the same place; Earth would still be rotating! Soon we'd be living on a pincushion.

BUT...

Nibbler's waste is not neutronium, nor even degenerate matter, but dark matter!
IIRC, in one of the first season DVD featurettes, MG or DXC mentioned that they chose dark matter exactly because it was poorly understood!

[*Sigh*]
Gawd! I am such] a geek!

  roll eyes
tyraniak

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« Reply #30 on: 07-30-2006 18:58 »

"Love Labour's Lost in Space" was on TBS last night and Bender struggled to lift up Nibbler's "dropping" but was eventually able to lift it into the engine.  We know Bender can lift a decent amount, but even he has his limitations, so I don't think a "Nibbler Ball" can way any more than a few hundred pounds, plus Fry's kind of a pussy
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #31 on: 07-30-2006 19:56 »

Nibblerpoo weighs 1000 pounds per regular pound, this is canon. The Professor doesn't get things wrong (much).

Fry is a moron. Anything that he says can be thrown out of the window.

We know that Bender can lift colossal weights. However, he has a limit. The pillows that are delivered on Stumbos IV are too heavy for him, and they weigh only 150 pounds.

With the aid of the hoverdolly, Bender is able to lift more than one lump of Nibblerpoo, but without, he struggles to lift one.

We must therefore assume that one unit of Nibblerpoo is not equal to one pound in relative wieght, therefore does not weigh 1000 pounds. Therefore it is reasonable to assume that although incerdibly dense, it will not cause Eternium or Earth to undergo gravitational collapse, nor will it crack the pavement. Nor will it damage a nappy manufactured in the same enlightened times as a cream that makes humans laserproof.

The reason that you all appear to have forgotton, for Vergon 6's implosion was not the presence of Dark Matter. Rather, it was that the dark matter had been removed from the interor of the planet, meaning that the crust was being pushed inwards by the weight of the planet's atmosphere. Whether the planet was filled with dark matter or candy hearts originally, the net result of removal wold have been the same. Implosion. Just like hitting a lightbulb with a hammer.

Nasty Pasty was right. Not when you apply his statement to the subject matter, but when you compare the intelligence displayed in this valid thread to that which is trotted out in things like the test thread on a daily basis.
Xanfor

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« Reply #32 on: 07-30-2006 21:06 »

Alrighty then... I can't refute TNUK's post, nor do I have anything to add, for he seems to have to explained the matter impeccably. So, I'll merely attack tyraniak. 'Mother's Day' was on TBS last night! And don't try and argue me out to be wrong, I have a videocasette to prove it!

tyraniak

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« Reply #33 on: 07-30-2006 22:12 »

You're right it was on Adult Swim Saturday, sorry, I guess I forgot what day was what
Bend-aid

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« Reply #34 on: 07-30-2006 23:17 »

 
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Originally posted by dawoodz:
 My DAD was stood behind me when I read that and deemed PEEL as a bad influence on my development as a natural HUMNAN being.

oh, sorry about that one dude, i didnt mean for that bastered chiled to leave such a rude remark  frown

YOUR PENDING FOR A BENDING!
Bend-aid

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« Reply #35 on: 07-30-2006 23:19 »
« Last Edit on: 08-01-2006 00:00 by [-mArc-] »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
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YOU STILL SUCK, YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!
   up yours    up yours    up yours

YOUR PENDING FOR A BENDING!
Shiny

Professor
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« Reply #36 on: 07-31-2006 02:14 »

dawoodz: Tell your dad that it's a TROLL causing trouble and that none of the other PEELers like it, either.  Surely he understands that troublemakers can come on and...uh...make trouble...no matter where you are.

Show him some of the intelligent, well-reasoned posts as proof that this is a good place for developing humans.

(Uh...I know I saw some around here...somewhere.... )
dawoodz
Starship Captain
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« Reply #37 on: 07-31-2006 11:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
dawoodz: Tell your dad that it's a TROLL causing trouble and that none of the other PEELers like it, either.  Surely he understands that troublemakers can come on and...uh...make trouble...no matter where you are.

Show him some of the intelligent, well-reasoned posts as proof that this is a good place for developing humans.

(Uh...I know I saw some around here...somewhere.... )


Thanks for the advice, I don't think he really cares that much anyway, I protested on behalf of PEEL he just shrugged and walked on by. On reflection I think PEEL has helped my natural development as a person if anything, or maybe thats looking too far into things, anyway, back on topic.....someone.......
TomAllen

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« Reply #38 on: 07-31-2006 12:47 »

Oh.  Your.  God.  We're still discussing Nibbler's poop?

Professy sez:  "You see, Vergon 6 was once filled with a super-dense substance known as dark matter, each pound of which weighs over ten thousand pounds." (Neutral Planet)

This is called a joke.  It's called a joke because it makes no logical (or physical) sense.  So trying to make sense of it is either futile, or a typical shippy activity.  But I repeat myself.

As a wannabe shipper, I feel I must explain it.  Since 1 pound > 10,000 pounds makes no sense outright, we have to assume that the measurements of weight are being done on different planets.

Vergon 6 is presumably much less massive than Earth.  After all, Vergon 6 is/was hollow.  Thus, the gravitational pull of Vergon 6 should be much less than that of Earth, and what weighs one pound there would weigh much more here, though the mass of the dark matter is the same.  So that's what the Professor meant, but he was being as obscure as always.  You know.  Like a balloon, and something bad happens.

All right, this suggestion raises even more questions.  Yet it is vaguely plausible.  More plausible than Zapp's continuing command of Earth's forces, at least.

laptopmoerder

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« Reply #39 on: 07-31-2006 13:50 »
« Last Edit on: 07-31-2006 13:50 »

   
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Originally posted by TomAllen:
All right, this suggestion raises even more questions. 

Yes, indeed...

   
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Yet it is vaguely plausible.

No, it isn't :-)

With this explanation, we still aren't any closer to determine the dark matter's real density as before.

Let's just assume that the mass of Vergon 6 (hollow) is about the mass of Earth. Indicator: The PE crew and the animals were able to move the same way they did on Earth. Thus, the gravity of Earth and Vergon 6 must be about equal.

This would mean - as you stated - that the Professor's explanation of 1 pound weighs more than 10.000 pounds (assuming he meant the weight and not the mass) is complete rubbish, as - for a constant mass of a pound and equal gravity on Earth and Vergon 6 - two identical masses of Dark Matter would weigh roughly the same.

Also, consider the following: When hollow Vergon 6 has about the same mass as Earth, it must be either much larger than Earth or its surface must be very dense. As of what we've seen, the surface seems to be not more but "normal" rock, so let's assume the density of Vergon 6's surface is about the same as the densitity of the Earth surface. Hence, Vergon 6 must be much larger than Earth. Let's assume further that a standard Nibber poo weighs some 10kg to not more than 100kg and that it's about 4cm in diameter. This would mean that the density of Dark matter is somewhere around 3.000 tons per cubic metre. A further assumption (hehehe...) states that the volume of Vergon 6 is 1e6 times greater than Earth's (because of its lower density). Let's fill up Vergon 6 with Dark Matter and we'd get a mass of 3.23e30kg for Vergon 6. Earth weighs 5.9e24kg - a Dark-Matter-filled Vergon 6 would weigh about as much as our sun! The gravity would have been enormous and no species that would have still existed after the planet was mined could have evolved. Neither would mining teams from Earth have survived landing on that planet.

Let's summarize: The Professor was talking rubbish, Fry was totally overestimating the wight and I was just playing around with some numbers I found :-)

edit: Lost a ^3 somewhere, just adjustet the calculations ;-)
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