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Mighty Waffles
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« on: 07-11-2006 02:56 »

yea everytime bender gos into his little apartment the door slides open, but in the episode where bender gets on the show "all my circuts" when the three kids goto rob him, they open the door like a reguler door (it dosent slide) and also there was a little joke where each of the kids are wearing bender masks and they each walk by fry and fry sais "hey bender" to each of them (hermies son is the last to walk out with the safe in his hands) after they all walk out fry picks up the phone and sais "hey bender" but later in the episode you notice bender gets out of the safe that hermie's son was carrying out when he suposibly called fry up O_o
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #1 on: 07-11-2006 03:23 »

On the first part: spot on.  Continuity goof.

On the second part: 1) Who's to say it was Bender calling him?  It could just as easily have been someone who sounded vaguely like Bender, just as the masks looked vaguely like Bender.  2) He could have called from inside the safe.  It's not likely, but 31st Century cell phones may just have the signal wattage to transmit through a few inches of metal.  Not likely, though.

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Dai

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« Reply #2 on: 07-11-2006 11:15 »
« Last Edit on: 07-11-2006 11:15 »

I think more to the point is how could dwight lift the safe with bender inside?? doesn't it say in a flight to remember that bender weighs about 1 metric ton!?!
David A

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« Reply #3 on: 07-11-2006 12:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Dai:
I think more to the point is how could dwight lift the safe with bender inside?? doesn't it say in a flight to remember that bender weighs about 1 metric ton!?!

Actually, no.  That was the Countess.

However, I think that it has been mentioned elsewhere that Bender does weigh a few hundred pounds, so your point remains valid.
Gopher

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« Reply #4 on: 07-11-2006 12:31 »

Nerdo: I dunno, a thousand years of technology and I'm sure we will have cell phones that work in tunnels, safes, etc. More to the point, though, who says the safe was actually made of metal? we're already replacing many metals with plastics, by then I expect most everyday uses of metal will be replaced with new textiles that are, if not better, then at least cheaper than metals.

As for how the he could lift the safe with bender inside... have any of you ever tried to lift a safe that size empty? They're stupidly heavy all by themselves. Naturally, the safe is built using the same technology as a hover-dolly to reduce it's weight (and the weight of it's contents) to something managable. All robots have the same tech, which is why they aren't always falling through wooden floors, etc.
Dai

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« Reply #5 on: 07-11-2006 13:44 »

@Gopher: Naturally

@David A: when Bender and the countess grab the back of the escape pod, Leela says that they are 2 metric tons overweight, so I'm assuming that Bender alone weighs around 1 metric ton.
David A

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« Reply #6 on: 07-11-2006 13:56 »

 
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Originally posted by Dai:
@David A: when Bender and the countess grab the back of the escape pod, Leela says that they are 2 metric tons overweight, so I'm assuming that Bender alone weighs around 1 metric ton.

But once the Countess falls into the black hole, the pod is no longer overweight, so Leela's statement proves that the Countess weighed at least 2 metric tons, but says nothing about Bender's weight.
Professor Zoidy

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« Reply #7 on: 07-11-2006 13:59 »
« Last Edit on: 07-11-2006 13:59 »

First of all, great spotting. Never noticed that. Second, all hail Mighty Waffles! I agree with Gopher. Let's also hope cell phones will be better in the future, because if they aren't, God help us all.   roll eyes

Edit: Woo! I'm a liquid emperor. *runs off to assassinate Benders_Fan*
Dai

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« Reply #8 on: 07-11-2006 14:47 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 But once the Countess falls into the black hole, the pod is no longer overweight, so Leela's statement proves that the Countess weighed at least 2 metric tons, but says nothing about Bender's weight.

True, but I doubt that Bender weighs less than half of what the countess weighs, so my point that Dwight couldn't lift him remains valid, but I think that is just a joke, you see Dwight carry it out of his apartment, then later bender gets out - it's pretty damn funny! In short I don't think it was an error, it was a gag.
Bend-aid

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« Reply #9 on: 07-11-2006 17:03 »

i agree wit Dai
Gopher

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« Reply #10 on: 07-11-2006 17:20 »

The weight difference is simple to explain. The countess is not equipped with the weight-reducing equipment, because she is not a working bot, but a rich aristobot. She would never set foot in a crappy place (like, say, the PE building) that wasn't built to support the weight. It's kindof like the ridiculously elaborate clothing worn by wealthy women durring victorian times. The majority of normal, working women dressed in a much more practical manner, but the wealthy wore ornate outfits that cost a fortune and required a servent to help them even get dressed as a way of flaunting their wealth. Not having the grav gear is just a way for wealthy 31st-century bots to do the same.

As for Dai's explanation...  I am unfamiliar with these "gags" of which you speak. what is this... 'funny'? More information is required.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #11 on: 07-12-2006 08:06 »

@Gopher: Hmmm... So the hi-tech stuff will be for the proletaries in the future?

I see your reasoning, and it makes sense but for the fact that you're not talking about something that the working class can't afford, but rather something that'd add to the expenses in the production of a worker robot.
ludacris21701

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« Reply #12 on: 07-12-2006 10:02 »

I swear that somewhere it said he weighed like 500 lbs.
Dai

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« Reply #13 on: 07-12-2006 11:17 »

I agree with Bend-aid, that guy seems to be pretty on the ball, as for gopher you seem to be coming up with some pretty riduculous explanations for a simplee throw-away joke!
Gopher

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« Reply #14 on: 07-12-2006 11:53 »

Pikk, high-tech stuff is EVERYWHERE in the 30th century, if you hadn't noticed. It might seem amazing to us, but trust me, weight-reduction tech is a pretty mundane miracle by the 30th century.

Perhaps the gear is a standard feature in all 'bots, but the Countess had hers deliberately removed. Possibly to make room for equipment related to her under-water functions?

Dai: That's one of my specialties. You'll get used to it.  smile My favorite bs explanation on here was for the "5 stamp" question, which is burried somewhere in the archives...
TomAllen

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« Reply #15 on: 07-12-2006 15:31 »

I hear that Bender sez:

Hey, chumps and chumpettes!  That was my anti-gravity safe.  It weighs, like, less than Fry's brain.  Ha!  Just kidding, Fry.

No, seriously.  (And I'm not Flexo.)  You know how often I pull inexplicable stuff out of my chest?  Do you know how that can physically occur?

Ha!  Of course not, you 20th century morons.  We're a millennium ahead of you.  Oooh!  I'm a scary robot!  Bite my shiny metal --.

(Bender didn't say much more than that.  Still, he did say it from a Fry hole, and he was created in the future.  Despite myself, I'm inclined to trust him.)

Dai

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« Reply #16 on: 07-12-2006 17:21 »

You're all nuts, shut up let me talk!

I'm joking of course, I think it's cool that you can think of ingenious and complex ways to explain away continuity errors, all I'm suggesting is that this was not an error, merely a good example of visual comedy is all!
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #17 on: 07-12-2006 18:50 »

@Gopher: I realize, yes, but still- omitting a common feature to make something more luxurious is just pointless. It'd be like replacing the carbon fibre chassis on exotic supercars with a steel one and boasting it as a super-special feature. Because then you'd only be able to drive your car on roads that are built for heavy-duty vehicles (your words*, not mine)...

When all this has been set and done, I'm with Dai here- a "what the...?" kind of gag, and that's it.

*) Well, almost.
Wooter

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« Reply #18 on: 07-13-2006 00:21 »

Maybe the Countess is made out of quite a bit of platinum, simply because it's expensive. Theres is no other reason for the platinum (it isn't even very visible) except for the fact that it is very expensive.

The drawback is that it's so very heavy
Gopher

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« Reply #19 on: 07-13-2006 00:54 »

Pikka: You're objecting because it would be pointless? Perhaps you're not familiar with the outfits these people used to wear in victorian times. Or perhaps a different example is in order - foot binding, perhaps? Everyone has perfectly good feet, but as a symbol of status they would deliberately destroy the feet, making walking or even standing for any period of time impossible.

As for your car analogy, I'd say it's more like replacing your car's carbon-fiber body with a glass body. As beautiful as it is impractical.
Dai

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« Reply #20 on: 07-13-2006 12:41 »

@Gopher you're comparing apples and oranges!
Gopher

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« Reply #21 on: 07-13-2006 12:53 »

Dai: And apples win, dammit!  wink
Dai

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« Reply #22 on: 07-13-2006 13:03 »

 
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Dai: And apples win, dammit!   wink

  laff v.good! much more amusing than the usual response of "they're both fruits!"
001001001001

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« Reply #23 on: 07-13-2006 17:52 »

Who said in the future there couldn't be apartment doors that open AND slide? And I wouldn't put it past Bender to sleep and stay in his safe, he obviously likes staying in very small closet like spaces, and inside a safe in the grand daddy of them all. So maybe he just woke up and decided to call his good buddy Fry, and it just so happened that Dwight was carying him out at the same time, his dad is a world class limbo-er, so I'm sure he has superior genes that may allow him to lift and carry a giant safe with a 500 pound robot inside... right?
Dai

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« Reply #24 on: 07-13-2006 18:28 »
« Last Edit on: 07-13-2006 18:28 »

wrong, seeing as we've established that he ways roughly one metric ton... anyone who says othherwise is either lying or stupid!   mad
Wooter

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« Reply #25 on: 07-13-2006 22:21 »

So when they specifically stated his weight in Raging Bender, they were lying?

It's obvious the Countess weighed the two metric tons, or else when she fell they still would have been one metric ton overweight, and they would have all died.
David A

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« Reply #26 on: 07-13-2006 22:43 »

 
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Originally posted by Wooter:
So when they specifically stated his weight in Raging Bender, they were lying?

Ah.  I knew that his weight was mentioned in an episode, but I couldn't think of which one.  Thanks, Wooter.
Dai

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« Reply #27 on: 07-14-2006 18:17 »

 
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So when they specifically stated his weight in Raging Bender, they were lying?

They could have been lying yes, but they could also be stupid. The writers just said bender weighed less in this episode to emphasise the difference between bender and destructor!

 
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Originally posted by Wooter:
It's obvious the Countess weighed the two metric tons, or else when she fell they still would have been one metric ton overweight, and they would have all died.

They were one metric ton over weight, but they were still light enough to get away, when leela said "we're two metric tons overweight" she didn't mean that they needed to loose two metric tons to get away, she was saying that they were two metric tons heavier than they were a second ago - glovbiously!
David A

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« Reply #28 on: 07-15-2006 01:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Dai:
They could have been lying yes, but they could also be stupid. The writers just said bender weighed less in this episode to emphasise the difference between bender and destructor!

Or, y'know, they could have been giving his actual weight.

If anything, I'd expect Bender to weigh less than that, considering that his body is mostly hollow.

 
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when leela said "we're two metric tons overweight" she didn't mean that they needed to loose two metric tons to get away

Yes, she did.  It doesn't make any sense for her to have said that if she meant anything else.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Dai

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« Reply #29 on: 07-15-2006 19:45 »

I don't mind debating, but arguments do my head in! I like your signature by the way, very fitting!
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #30 on: 07-16-2006 14:30 »

Bender weighs so much because he's made of 40% titanium... very heavy stuff. Don't forget that he's also got a few bits and pieces of loot and/or beer stashed inside him at any one time. So his weight can vary slightly.

The part that I find amusing is that Bender can fit into a safe that he could probably fit into his own chest cavity, should the writers have demanded it. Now that's why they call him Bender the Magnificent!
Gopher

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« Reply #31 on: 07-16-2006 14:36 »

(makes note for Futurama tabletop RPG: Bender has an unstealable bag of holding.)
Wooter

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« Reply #32 on: 07-16-2006 15:48 »

Titanium... heavy?

I know osmium is quite heavy, (heaviest element, the second being iridium) but titanium is generally known for its light weight. They never revealed how much osmium was in him, however...

Was the titanium=heavy thing some sort of joke I don't get, did you just get it mixed up, or are you just really unfamiliar with metals in general?
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #33 on: 07-16-2006 16:56 »

I was taking the piss. I give up. I'm going to avoid on-topic for a while*.

*'Till I get bored enough to come back
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #34 on: 07-19-2006 22:18 »

 
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Originally posted by Gopher:
Pikka: You're objecting because it would be pointless?

No, I am not. I am objecting because you're removing a feature you're suggesting would be standard on cheaper models. Removing, not replacing. Removing and thus making the countess more primitive. This practice has never been used among European nobles, which the countess is obviously mimicking. Rather, a high-society wardrobe would comprise all the categories of clothing that a commoner would own, only in more luxurious, needlessly extravagant variants.

Also, I hold that the claim that robots aren't heavy because of built-in weight reduction technology is void simply because we've been provided with some near-realistic weight data for Bender, who's a pretty standard robot (meaning he'd have this tech built into him if your theory was to be true), and also, most people here seem to agree that the lifting of the safe with Bender in it was probably meant as a joke.

I guess the OT has been left behind now, hasn't it?

@TNUK: Wise.
dangerskew

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« Reply #35 on: 07-19-2006 23:32 »

The countess weighs more because she's a yacht. Bender probably doesn't have a big motor in him.
Dai

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« Reply #36 on: 07-22-2006 20:24 »

dangerskew raises a good point, where IS Gopher?
Gopher

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« Reply #37 on: 07-23-2006 14:06 »

I got bored and moved on.
Futurama Llama

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« Reply #38 on: 08-19-2006 10:48 »

Nice, Gopher. Many ppl get bored on dying threads. Like me! Bye!
Benders_Fan

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« Reply #39 on: 08-21-2006 13:00 »

Ya know I noticed that. I thought it was just my eyes. Oh well.
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