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Dan1248

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« on: 08-19-2005 12:57 »

People say (correctly) that "The Devils hands are idol playthings" is the last episode (it is...)

But, I think it could be "The Cryogenic Women", it is the only episode with any real reference to "Space Pilot 3000" and at the end Fry is fired by Farnsworth, he doesn't rehire him...

It was just a thought, flame when ready...
Venus

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« Reply #1 on: 08-19-2005 13:07 »

The Cryonic women would have made for a more dissapointing final episode then the last Seinfeld one.
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #2 on: 08-19-2005 14:32 »

I shall make my point using this little symbol dealie:

The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings > The Cryonic Woman

Hey, look, the Pacman's eating the first one!
Jicannon

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« Reply #3 on: 08-19-2005 15:57 »

SP3K should have been the last one..you know...quit before they broke everyone's hearts by getting canceled...

*gets killed by peel*
Dan1248

Professor
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« Reply #4 on: 08-19-2005 17:34 »

*kills Jicannon*

You're sounding less like a Futurama Fan at this second, and that one, and that one, not so much on this one, even more on this one...
Venus

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« Reply #5 on: 08-19-2005 17:48 »

You know what i want to know? How Cryonic Woman is the 'only episode with any real reference to sp3000'. I remember there being several. The Why of Fry for example.
Dan1248

Professor
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« Reply #6 on: 08-19-2005 18:37 »

I meant like "ties in thoroghly"

Leela "Its how we met"
She uses that chip gun

Stuff like that...
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #7 on: 08-19-2005 18:54 »

I don't think that's enough of a tie to make that a suitable ending to the series.
Dan1248

Professor
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« Reply #8 on: 08-19-2005 18:56 »

Look I can't be bothered to go through EVERYTHING with you alright?

Just watch the episode yourself, and you'll see what I mean...
SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #9 on: 08-19-2005 20:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Dan1248:
Look I can't be bothered to go through EVERYTHING with you alright?

Just watch the episode yourself, and you'll see what I mean...

Ohboy...   no no

You're a thrillseeker aren't you?

I hope you're well insured...
  roll eyes
Venus

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« Reply #10 on: 08-20-2005 01:05 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2005 01:05 »

I've seen the episode, thank you. The ties aren't there. A few mentions of details from the first episode don't make for a good series end. There's also the fact that that episode is the 2nd lowest rated episode of the series. Rated at 59%. A lot of people would have been pissed if that episode had been the last. 


Now, onto the mauling:
Sic him Ani!
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Frybot 5000

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« Reply #11 on: 08-20-2005 01:26 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2005 01:26 »

Well, in Dan's... half-defense, on the commentary, Cohen did say that the episode would've made a better second episode than the actual second episode was. 'Cuz they spent so much time in the pilot delicately explaining things that they completely abandoned up until "Cryogenic Woman."

But in offense, it still would've made a terrible final episode. There's no real reason. It just would've been a bad move. Airing the episode earlier would've been better, though, if anything.
DrThunder88

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« Reply #12 on: 08-20-2005 02:27 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2005 02:27 »

 
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
You're a thrillseeker aren't you?

Since when is nerd-baiting considered a thrill?

Frankly, I think Dan is off in his analysis.  What would've made it a good series finale?  First, it would've had to have been a better episode, and that includes a total lack of Paulie Shore.  Next, it should have been more about leaving the year 3000-or-so and less about Michelle's social disorientation therein.  Third, Fry would not have chosen to leave the life he had in New New York, regardless of what his ball-and-chain said.  Finally, Paulie Shore would not be the guest star.  In fact, nobody whose name even sounded too much like "Paulie Shore" would guest star.

I think Cohen is equally off with his assertation that Cryonic would have been better placed anywhere in the first season.  While Fry's attachment to the future might have been less cemented in his first year there (or then), which could've explained his willingness to leave it, he was still getting used to his new surroundings and for Leela to say he was fitting in well would've been erroneous or at least premature.
futz
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« Reply #13 on: 08-20-2005 10:25 »

I thought the "Why of Fry" referenced "SP3000" quite a bit as well as "Jurassic Bark".
Gorky

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« Reply #14 on: 08-20-2005 10:56 »
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The Cryonic Woman just doesn't fit in the season 4 universe. By then, the characters were more or less fully-developed, whereas, in season 2, things were a lot different. For example, Fry wasn't anywhere near as likable a character, in my opinion. Really, the only time I genuinely liked him in season 2 was in X-Mas Story. (Which, for the record, had some of the best characterization of that season.)

Basically, The Cryonic Woman was lacking in the, um...quality department. I definitely would have been disappointed if they had used that as a capper for the series.

Oh yeah, and I always thought that The Why of Fry would have made a pretty good finale. It definitely tied into SP3K moreso than The Cryonic Woman did.

That, and it's an infinitely better episode.
TwistedMetalKat

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« Reply #15 on: 08-20-2005 14:02 »

The Why of Fry and Cryonic Woman would've both made terrible endings.
parasite?

Bending Unit
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« Reply #16 on: 08-20-2005 14:54 »

TWOF is a great episode but it really would have upset me as a last episode cause it still bugs the crap out of me when Nibbler says that Leela "...must be the other" GAHHHHHH! Please let them make the movie and explain that!!
Frybot 5000

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« Reply #17 on: 08-20-2005 15:24 »

I always thought that "other" nonsense was cheesy. I'd prefer it to be left as open-ended as it was.
TwistedMetalKat

Bending Unit
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« Reply #18 on: 08-20-2005 21:03 »

No, I think them saying the other was perfect, otherwise, the fans would have no hope to cling onto other than the little hints throughout the series that they'd get together.
parasite?

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« Reply #19 on: 08-21-2005 00:45 »

It sounded to me like Leela has some other cosmic importance. Like it was fortold that she would be needed to help save the universe some day, not just to get together with Fry. Then again I am an idiot.
SuperKing24

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« Reply #20 on: 08-22-2005 14:19 »

 
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Originally posted by parasite?:
TWOF is a great episode but it really would have upset me as a last episode cause it still bugs the crap out of me when Nibbler says that Leela "...must be the other" GAHHHHHH! Please let them make the movie and explain that!!


actually that might have made a great last episode. fuck i hope they greenlight the movie.
TwistedMetalKat

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« Reply #21 on: 08-22-2005 21:42 »

 
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Originally posted by parasite?:
It sounded to me like Leela has some other cosmic importance. Like it was fortold that she would be needed to help save the universe some day, not just to get together with Fry. Then again I am an idiot.
I always had thought about it as not only they're both important to save the universe... but that eventually they'd have a child that would be ultimately important because think about it... Fry lacks the delta wave and Leela's a mutant. A child couldn've proved to be resistant against a lot of mortal weaknesses.

SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #22 on: 08-22-2005 22:18 »

 
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Originally posted by SuperKing24:
... fuck i hope they greenlight the movie.

I'd have a hard time disagreeing with that...
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