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parasite?

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« on: 05-02-2005 17:52 »

Okay, I hate pointing out errors and stuff in Futurama, cause it's a comedy and who cares, but whatever. Anyhoo, There's one that I saw that has been bugging me. In AOI 2 when the "Fryhole" opens, you see Leela, Bender, the Professor, and Zoidberg. If Fry had never come to the future, Leela would still be working at the Cryogenics lab, and Bender would be dead. Leela would have no idea who the Professor or Zoidberg were. Zoidberg would be working for the Professor, though. Dunno just bugged me for a while. Who cares, it's funny, but I just wanted to point it out.

By the way if this is a repost, sorry. I searched, but usually I suck at that.
Harry Sach

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« Reply #1 on: 05-02-2005 17:58 »

Maybe Fry really isn't as important as we think.
parasite?

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« Reply #2 on: 05-02-2005 18:01 »

oh, that was uncalled for...  frown
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #3 on: 05-02-2005 18:13 »

1) The what-if machine isn't God- it doesn't really do 100% accurate predictions.

2) Fry's importance is to the universe, not to the people he later befriends (fate-wise).

3) Leela was at Planet Express when we saw Gigantorrrrr-Bender in the first AOI, even though Fry didn't meet Bender in the booth, and therefore probably didn't escape in the same way, and therefore, he might not have convinced Leela to dig out her own career chip, subsequently making Fry and her seek out Farnsworth for new jobs.

The AOI episodes aren't supposed to be taken as fact. It's pretty much like Halloween episodes of other shows, where the characters maim and kill each other, etc.
parasite?

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« Reply #4 on: 05-02-2005 18:17 »

Ahh, crap. I wrote AOI 2. It's AOI 1.
Ummm... Yeah, that sounds good. Besides I've been duped into believing less realistic things than AOI. I don't care AOI 1 is still one of my favorites.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #5 on: 05-02-2005 20:34 »

Fry is supposed to come to the future, right?  We can then conclude that Bender and Leela are supposed to work at PE - certainly supported by Leela being The Other.  So perhaps Leela manages to get fired, or gets the strangest urge to quit her job and become a space captain.  Perhaps the suicide machine ends up not killing Bender (nothing that looks particularly deadly to robots, considering the abuse we've seen Bender take), or Bender also gets the strangest feeling that he shouldn't commit suicide and should get a job at a delivery company as a front for his porno ring.
David A

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« Reply #6 on: 05-02-2005 20:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
1) The what-if machine isn't God- it doesn't really do 100% accurate predictions.

Indeed.  Stephen Hawking in a pizzaria?
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #7 on: 05-02-2005 21:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
...or Bender also gets the strangest feeling that he shouldn't commit suicide...

Well, I can't help thinking that it's out of character for Bender to commit suicide, since he's too much of a narcissist. Furthermore, he should rejoice when he found out he was bending girders for suicide booths.
I think I mentioned something about Bender and Leela's apperance at the PE building and fate and all that jazz, but that was waay back when I first joined, so I really don't feel like digging it up (partially because I fear that it'd be embarrasing).
David A

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« Reply #8 on: 05-02-2005 21:25 »

 
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
Well, I can't help thinking that it's out of character for Bender to commit suicide, since he's too much of a narcissist. Furthermore, he should rejoice when he found out he was bending girders for suicide booths.

Well, Bender wasn't quite the same character in the pilot that he is in later episodes.  He had a little more of Marvin the paranoid android in him originally.
spaulding

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« Reply #9 on: 05-03-2005 01:47 »

i can only conclude that

1) there is another catalyst somewhere

2) the guys in the hole thing arent actually in the same place but are all there because fry had an affect on them

Pikka Bird

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« Reply #10 on: 05-03-2005 05:14 »

@Amun: Yeah, but it didn't last long before they took him in that quite different direction.
David A

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« Reply #11 on: 05-03-2005 07:59 »

It didn't even last until the second episode.  That's not unusual, though.  Shows often change after the pilot episode.  You'll notice that they also abandoned the career chip idea after the pilot.
spaulding

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« Reply #12 on: 05-03-2005 09:04 »

but they brought it back

they also abandoned axe instead of ask.

David A

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« Reply #13 on: 05-03-2005 09:25 »

 
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Originally posted by spaulding:
but they brought it back

For one episode.  And Fry didn't remember them.  That was the joke.

 
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they also abandoned axe instead of ask.

1. That wasn't from the pilot.

2. It wasn't abandoned, just used inconsistantly.

Hey, spaulding, do you mind not posting that boy band sig of yours after every post?  One per page is more than enough.
ZacSixChip
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« Reply #14 on: 06-14-2005 10:54 »

I've recently read people talking about Benders full name being Bender Bending Rodriquez.  From the Episode "Bender Gets Made Uncut:"

Bender: How 'bout "Blotto"? It's witty, it's got street cred. Plus I can keep my monogrammed slippers.

Wouldn't that suggest that Benders full name would consist of 6 words?  B.L.O.T.T.O.?

I don't get this.  Am I misunderstanding what monogrammed means?
Nixorbo

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« Reply #15 on: 06-14-2005 12:24 »

No, because monogramming involves initials.  So instead of "BBR" for "Bender Bending Rodriguez," it would be "BRR" for "Blotto Bending Rodriguez."
IamBender

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« Reply #16 on: 06-14-2005 12:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
No, because monogramming involves initials.  So instead of "BBR" for "Bender Bending Rodriguez," it would be "BRR" for "Blotto Bending Rodriguez."

No, u mean it would stay the same.

Futurama Crazy

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« Reply #17 on: 06-14-2005 13:19 »

Yea thats right.....I think
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #18 on: 06-14-2005 13:35 »
« Last Edit on: 06-14-2005 13:35 »

Back on topic before this thread gets closed.

I think that Bender never would be killed in the suicide booth. Maybe the knifes and such only got his torso and never reached his brain. Though, Bending in the Wind might disagree with this theory.

Also, Leela would've met them sometime, since she is the career chip consuler person. To that, she might've met Zoidberg before going to PE, since he immigrated from Decapod 10.

Also, if there was a Fry Hole on one end, it's on the other, so the Professor might've had a Fry Hole in the PE building open up, and Bender might've been trying to break in the building at the same time, and Leela may have been updating Zoidberg's career chip or something, so they were all there at the same time.
IamBender

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« Reply #19 on: 06-14-2005 13:56 »

 
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Maybe the knifes and suck only got his torso and never reached his brain.

But where is benders brain? I mean in Godfellas, he has a piece of meteor enter his skull and it only 'hurt slightly'.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #20 on: 06-14-2005 15:05 »

That's because it hit one part of his brain. It could've been the "flying through space" part, so that could've been the reason why he didn't fly through space rather than drift.
IamBender

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« Reply #21 on: 06-14-2005 16:06 »

 
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner:
 It could've been the "flying through space" part, so that could've been the reason why he didn't fly through space rather than drift.


Dont comprehend that  one bit
  confused
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #22 on: 06-14-2005 17:34 »

The part of his brain that tells him how to fly through space, showing how he didn't remember he could fly through space rather than drift through space forever. It was just an idea about why he had to drift though space and to explain how the metor went through his brain but didn't change him.
maCCu

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« Reply #23 on: 06-17-2005 09:45 »

hello experts,

i wondered if anybody could tell me the title of the 
song that is played in that disco in AOI2. Remember: flesh-bender is dancing with 2 girls, hotdog and nachos...

thanksalot
(gimme feedback concerning language mistakes^^...i'm going to be tested in english)

ABI 2005!!!
JBERGES

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« Reply #24 on: 06-17-2005 10:10 »

The song is "Conga" by Miami Sound Machine.
germanfryfan

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« Reply #25 on: 06-17-2005 11:13 »
« Last Edit on: 06-17-2005 11:13 »

   
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Originally posted by maCCu:
hello experts,

i wondered if anybody could tell me the title of the 
song that is played in that disco in AOI2. Remember: flesh-bender is dancing with 2 girls, hotdog and nachos...

thanksalot
(gimme feedback concerning language mistakes^^...i'm going to be tested in english)

ABI 2005!!!

Your English looks ok to me, conparable to my abilities back in 2002, when I took my final Abi exams. English was my third subject to take, it was ok for 13 points.

Welcome to PEEL, fellow German.

enjoy your stay here at PEEL.

PS.: Nice homepage    tongue. Anyhow I think you shouldn't show that link here, where also younger people could see it. "Muschis" are a bit too much for them.    wink
- ok, shouldn't have posted it.  hmpf

edit: oh, and Bergy was obviously right.

Jonny Wobbs

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« Reply #26 on: 06-17-2005 11:39 »

Nice home page maCCu
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #27 on: 06-19-2005 13:46 »

Why was Leela, Bender and the Professor in that 'Fryhole' anyway?  Besides, at the end of that segment the whole universe fell into a black hole.  Thus, Bender, Leela, The Professor and that bunch would never have existed.  That's what would've happened if Fry had never fallen into that 'freezer doodle'! 

To be logical, that was just the Profoessor's dream of whatif he had invented the 'Finglonger'!
So, who knows what the real story would've been in Fry had never been frozen?
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #28 on: 06-19-2005 14:25 »

Maybe we'll find out some day...in a comic, or a movie, or even a new episode...more likely one of the first two. Wow, that would be a good movie. Just what if Fry never went into the tube. How would it effect the future? What would Nibbler do? How would Fry's life change?
CombienReaction

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« Reply #29 on: 06-19-2005 14:54 »

Perhaps at the other end of the "Fry Hole", it wasn't actually showing the Year 2999/3000, as it is without Fry, but is actually showing said Year when Fry arrives. Was there actually any confirmation that the vision of Bender, Leela, Farnsworth and Zoidberg was actually the year 3000 without Fry? Maybe the "Fry Hole" actually showed an alternate future, in which Fry does go to the future (e.g the year 3000 we've grown accustom to). I mean, we never heard Bender ask past Fry "who are you?". With the exception of Bender's "he's back... and he brung nerds!", there's actually no acknowledgement that Fry is even there (although, there's Zoidberg asking for the pizza and what not, but none directly refering to Fry).
It could be as easy to say that in the Year 3000 (when Fry does arrive), the Professor creates a "Fry Hole" (or as he would call it a "Farnsworth Hole" ), and they look into the past and discover Fry. There's no mention to whether or not the crew that appear in the "Fry Hole" don't know who Fry is, and Bender's "he's back" line could be interpreted either way (as in "he's back" refering to Bender not knowing his name is Fry, or "he's back" refering to the past version of Fry).
Perhaps the fact that Bender is the only one to appear later in the "Fry Hole" is a sign, that after a day, the other three don't meet up and aren't there, and when Fry and the "Nerds" are sucked into the "Fry Hole", there's no one present on the other side. Because, of course if the universe ends on January 1st 2000, then there'd never be a January 1st 3000, and the "characters" in that time started to vanish away (and maybe that's why Bender disappeared from the "Fry Hole" after Fry smashed the Cyrogenic Tube with the Plus One Mace).

As for the 1st tale, maybe Leela met up with Planet Express just like in the pilot, except Bender isn't present. Fry outruns Leela by himself, lost in the world, and gets trapped in the "Hall of Criminals", Leela begins to feel sorry for Fry throughout the museum scenes (you can actually tell she was getting a little bit concerned already with "don't use force" line), but in the alternate universe without Bender, perhaps she feels even more upset for Fry; whom doesn't have a friend and is trapped in the Year 3000. And actually, throughout the thing, there was again, no reference to whether or not Fry worked for Planet Express or not. Maybe both he and Leela did, but they just weren't "friends" without Bender being there.

Don't you not love it when I write out this boring essays that are nothing but complete assumptions, interpretions and theories and bare very little "real" facts to the actual show?
cosmic J

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« Reply #30 on: 06-20-2005 08:36 »

I was reading an article the other day that prof daniel greenberger at city uni of new york and prof karl svozil of the technical uni of vienna found that you would no be able to alter the past in a way that would be inconsistent with the future you came from. although the future is still undetermined, which we can still shape.
so leela and bender would be at planet express although i'm not sure the fry hole would exist.
Jonny Wobbs

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« Reply #31 on: 06-20-2005 11:41 »

But the Fry hole only exsisted because he didnt get frozen in the first place!
CombienReaction

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« Reply #32 on: 06-20-2005 12:17 »

Prove it.  tongue
Jonny Wobbs

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« Reply #33 on: 06-20-2005 12:29 »

Hmmmmmmmm, well Fry was ment to get frozen, thats how time was going, but when he didnt, time and space started ripping apart, because someone exsisted in the year 1999 that shouldnt have.
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