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spaulding

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« on: 04-12-2005 16:32 »

im not sure if this was posted but in space pilot 3000 fry really sucks at that video game but in a byclops built for 2 hes really good at that net game and also in anthology of intrest 2 hes good at space invaders.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #1 on: 04-12-2005 16:36 »

Meh, I guess you could argue that not everyone is good at every videogame...
cujoe169
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« Reply #2 on: 04-12-2005 16:59 »

he's not really good... he couldn't finish the last level remember?
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #3 on: 04-12-2005 18:28 »

Fry seems to suck at arcade games: Monkey Fracas Jr. and Space Invaders.  This is probably because of his "Stupid Fingers," known in the real world as dysgraphia. 

He's very good at the 'net game, because he's using his whole body in conjuction with his mind (videogames being the one thing he can concentrate on for more than 5 seconds,) not just his hands.

He also does well two other times: in a deleted scene in Birdbot of Ice-Catraz, when he whoopwhoopwhoops up on Zoidberg at a fighting game, and in BSNBAOTV, when he's blasting aliens one-handed while reading an Astro Boy.  In the first one, it's because he's against Zoidberg.  In the second one...well, it looked like an easy game, and not paying attention may have helped.
Shiny

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« Reply #4 on: 04-12-2005 20:32 »
« Last Edit on: 04-12-2005 20:32 »

Fry has stupid fingers, yes, but with enough practice, that can be overcome (as the teacher stated in the deleted scene from Devil's Hands).

My theory is that Fry has practiced at video games enough to gain dexterity at it - at certain games that he practiced specifically, and at video games in general.  In other words, he has overcome his "stupid fingers" in this field.

As for Space Invaders, well, that was one of the earliest arcade games...it was eventually driven out by newer, fancier games.  If Fry was still asking his older brother to "get" the difficult last ship for him, he would have been young, maybe not even into double-digit years, when he was playing it (I can't picture a teenager doing that --too much teen pride at stake).  By the time Fry was into his heaviest game-playing, he had moved on to other games.

As for Donkey Fracas, Jr....I always figured he wasn't seriously playing for points.  He was waiting around for Michelle to arrive, and just put a quarter in to show the kid how it worked, not to start a lengthy session. Notice he doesn't seem dismayed at being blown up, just turns and says "And that's how you play the game."

And the ungrateful brat dissed him....!  Poor Fry, he gets no respect.  no no
cujoe169
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« Reply #5 on: 04-12-2005 20:53 »

lol... looks like frys got another fan  wink
Shiny

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« Reply #6 on: 04-12-2005 22:21 »

But of course!   wink

What, there are people who aren't Fry fans?
David A

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« Reply #7 on: 04-13-2005 02:49 »

Fry does not suck at Monkey Fracas Jr.  Do you have any idea how hard it is to even get to that gorilla?  That kid was just being an ass.
Zogonif

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« Reply #8 on: 04-13-2005 04:29 »
« Last Edit on: 04-13-2005 04:29 »

 
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Meh, I guess you could argue that not everyone is good at every videogame...

Exactly !

you can't be the best at everything

jordan05

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« Reply #9 on: 04-13-2005 12:28 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
Fry does not suck at Monkey Fracas Jr.  Do you have any idea how hard it is to even get to that gorilla?  That kid was just being an ass.

Actually he does suck because if you see the deleted scences for that episode the kid says even my grandmother got past the first monkey and she thought this was a cigarate machine!
Shiny

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« Reply #10 on: 04-13-2005 21:21 »

Which is, of course, impossible...so the kid was just being an ass.

Q.E.D.!  big grin
David A

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« Reply #11 on: 04-14-2005 00:50 »

Yeah, that kid is obviously full of crap.
RS 2thou

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« Reply #12 on: 04-15-2005 07:45 »

he just cant to the last bit of games
smision

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« Reply #13 on: 04-16-2005 02:01 »

You shouldn't use deleted scenes to make a point about something in the show anyway. If the scene is deleted then it didn't happen. If you go by what happens in deleted scenes then Bender isn't really Bender.
Shiny

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« Reply #14 on: 04-16-2005 13:59 »
« Last Edit on: 04-16-2005 13:59 »

Eh, I think of deleted scenes as "optional canon" - non-optional canon being the show itself (with one important exception - see below). 

It's a set of unwritten rules of fan fiction writing from the earliest days of Star Trek fandom that there's canon (the show) and non-canon (what you make up yourself); canon must be addressed to be "playing the game" fairly.  You can't just say that "Leela's Homeworld" didn't happen and that Leela is really an alien, not a mutant, because we saw her parents - unless your story is just flat-out an Alternate Universe story.  Likewise, something you made up can't be considered canon.  If you wrote a story where Fry knows (say) how to trick-ride like a rodeo star, that's your personal "fanon".  You can't really criticize another writer's story if they have Fry not knowing squat about horseback riding, however fond of the idea you are.

But there are in-between areas that are "Optional canon," like deleted scenes - as long as they are not invalidated by the show itself. Also in the category of optional canon are things like the comics and remarks from the commentaries. You can include them in a story if you need to, but you need not explain away a deleted scene or something from a comics issue if it would make your story invalid. 

The "Bender isn't Bender" scene was a deleted scene, optional canon, but it was later invalidated by "Bendless Love," in that it can't have happened that Flexo took over Bender's life, unless Bender also took over Flexo's life and was perfectly happy with it, which seems unlikely given that Flexo went to prison...and the fact that Flexo still acts like Flexo and Bender still acts like Bender.  So that deleted scene loses its status as "optional canon" because it would be harder to explain its inclusion than its exclusion.  (I suppose you could say that their robot brains were switched to each other's robot bodies, though, if your story really depended on Bender having Flexo's serial number. That would be fair. )

Just to make this diatribe even longer: I think there's is one important exception to the "what we see in the show is canon" rule for Futurama, because of its surreal, zany streak: highly improbably sight gags do not count as canon.  For instance, I don't think anyone would write a serious story with "Katrina" and "Zanthor" in it, and no one should have to explain in their story why Katrina and Zanthor are not present at a staff meeting.  Their presence was a one-time joke in AOI-2 and it is more likely that they are hallucinations of the Professor's than that Planet express actually has a winged pixie and a quasi-Vulcan on staff.

*Whew*  How's that for impromptu pontificating?    wink
cujoe169
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« Reply #15 on: 04-16-2005 20:11 »

lol... um... too long, i summarized the first and last paragraphs and made assumptions for the middle  wink
smision

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« Reply #16 on: 04-17-2005 01:48 »

Shiny, you have opened my eyes. (lol i wasn't expecting such a long reply to my little comment there  wink) I'm not entirely sure what you meant by the use of the word canon but I think I get the gist of it in context. smile  Good point about the Bender isn't really Bender scene being later invalidated.

To keep this post on topic: Fry was having an off night.
Shiny

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« Reply #17 on: 04-20-2005 22:44 »

I wasn't expecting to make such a long reply, but I got into a thing and forgot how the post ended...

Canon in this context means an "official" literary (or televisual) body of work. 

And in the interests of on-topic-ness...Fry did well blasting space pirate ships with the arcade-setup guns in "Godfellas."  I think it's clear he has skill in some games at least...
cujoe169
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« Reply #18 on: 04-20-2005 23:33 »

ironic... because in liturgy, canon means followed writing, i guess the same in cartoons?
David A

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« Reply #19 on: 04-21-2005 03:20 »

[Bender]That's not ironic![/Bender]

It doesn't make any difference if that deleted scene is canon or not, because the kid was making up that story about his grandmother.

You know what?  We've had this conversation before.
X-Periment

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« Reply #20 on: 05-27-2005 16:19 »

This is my test post, so be brief. Why Fry's good at 'net games? Cuz' of the all-envoriment system.
cujoe169
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« Reply #21 on: 05-27-2005 21:53 »

x-periment, there is a test thread in the information booth* for reference
X-Periment

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« Reply #22 on: 05-28-2005 03:29 »

Yo, Joe! Stop interrupting my x-perimental test!
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #23 on: 06-11-2005 17:05 »

Fry seemed to be a video game prodigy in AOI2.  In Space Pilot 3000 he lost on that one game, and in Bender Should Not Be Allowed on TV when we see Fry playing the video game, it looked like he was winning!  Maybe he's both good and bad at video games!
TheGlob

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« Reply #24 on: 06-11-2005 17:23 »

I think fry is good at video games.
IDIOTSVILLE

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« Reply #25 on: 06-11-2005 17:48 »

 
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Originally posted by TheGlob:
I think fry is good at video games.

Agreed
Futurama Crazy

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« Reply #26 on: 06-12-2005 08:51 »

 
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001:
Fry seemed to be a video game prodigy in AOI2.  In Space Pilot 3000 he lost on that one game, and in Bender Should Not Be Allowed on TV when we see Fry playing the video game, it looked like he was winning!  Maybe he's both good and bad at video games!

When you say Fry was good at vidio games in AOI2, I think thats because the what if machine makes you seem good at things, when your not.
JossYeti

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« Reply #27 on: 06-12-2005 11:48 »
« Last Edit on: 06-12-2005 11:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Zogonif:
  Exactly !

you can't be the best at everything


Wrong! I can, will be, and am the best at everything!

I wish everybody else was dead.
CombienReaction

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« Reply #28 on: 06-12-2005 12:00 »

If I may refer to the "Bender is Flexo" deleted scene, in the *animated* deleted scene it wasn't quite Flexo's serial number (Bender are crossed out his entire serial number and replaced it with "14" ), the Flexo thing was just something mentioned on the commentary.

And, they wouldn't switch "lives", Bender had was just pretending to be Flexo; so that the Mafia couldn't track him down. Put it this way, if the mafia were trying to kill you, you'd probably have your name changed, that's all Bender was supposed to have "done". I thought that it was quite a clever joke. Of course, as Shiny said it's no longer valid since now there's Bendless Love.
Tongue Luck

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« Reply #29 on: 06-12-2005 13:22 »
« Last Edit on: 06-12-2005 13:22 »

I agree with the start of your post, but you lost me halfway through.

In The Lesser of Two Evils, it's revealed that Flexo's serial number is 3370318 and Bender's is 2716057. Indeed, in the animated deleted scene, 2716057 is the crossed out number, and Bender is Bender. But the commentary didn't talk about replacing it with 3370318 instead of with 14, and having Bender assume Flexo's identity from that moment on. They talked about having 3370318 be the crossed out number, implying that Flexo had already been living Bender's life for some unknown amount of time. Gah, this is a confusing little tangent, ain't it?
CombienReaction

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« Reply #30 on: 06-12-2005 15:05 »

Guh? Honestly? That sounds-- ridiculous. What were they thinking?

BTW, so people don't get confused, I thought that the commentary said Bender had crossed out his serial number and was using Flexo's from now one and I thought the Flexo thing was soon ditched for the "14" one instead (which is a great joke, that Bender's serial number is seven digits and he picks something as simplistic as "14" for a cover-up), I never actually noticed if it was his or Flexo's serial code crossed out.
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