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richdiesal

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« on: 02-01-2005 00:50 »

In "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" (as well as the other episode with the holophoner), the holophoner is obviously able to recreate several instruments.

However, when Fry is writing his opera on the balcony (when Leela hears and investigates), the holophoner sounds amazing!  I am determined to recreate that sound, but I can't figure out what instrument/modifications to the sound were used to create it.  Does anyone know what instrument created this sound?
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #1 on: 02-01-2005 01:48 »

It sounds like a flute of some sort ... but don't ask me which kind in specific.  My original thoughts was it was a pan flute, but it could be a standard concert flute, or both.  But I really don't know for sure.
richdiesal

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« Reply #2 on: 02-01-2005 09:46 »

I thought the sound was a little too deep and full to be a flute, like they put a little reverb on it?  Hmmm...
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #3 on: 02-01-2005 10:23 »

It's a woodwind instrument. I think it's a piccolo.
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #4 on: 02-01-2005 14:22 »

I thought that piccolos were really high-pitched.
richdiesal

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« Reply #5 on: 02-01-2005 20:56 »

Piccolos are extremely high pitched - definitely not a piccolo.  It's definitely something on the lower end... maybe a low-pitch flute, like a Bb flute?  I've never actually heard one in person, so I don't have any good memories for comparison.
Shaucker

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« Reply #6 on: 02-01-2005 21:34 »
« Last Edit on: 02-01-2005 21:34 »

The instrument that the sound and look the Holophoner is the English Horn

The English horn sound is heard in the lower passages, and the oboe in the higher. Bassoon is the mellow lows and highs (oboe and English horn are nasally), and synth flute comes in occasionally, but not as often.
RCS

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« Reply #7 on: 02-03-2005 16:19 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2005 16:19 »

I agree with Shaucker on this one, as I did research on this a while back.  Unfortunately an English Horn isn't exactly cheap to buy, but an Oboe is pretty affordable.  Thinking of getting one.

And I do like when he's composing it on the balcony... I'd like to find if that was an actual piece from some work, added as a hidden easter egg, or was just written for the show.


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Sqiggles101

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« Reply #8 on: 02-03-2005 17:29 »

i think it may be the claranet...im probably wrong, but ya never no
Bender-is-Great

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« Reply #9 on: 02-03-2005 18:03 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2005 18:03 »

 
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Originally posted by RCS:
And I do like when he's composing it on the balcony... I'd like to find if that was an actual piece from some work, added as a hidden easter egg, or was just written for the show.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think in the commentary they mentioned something about the sheet music.  I'd have to watch it again and check, but I think it was actually suppossed to be sheet music from like Bach or Beethoven or something.

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LoveForFry

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« Reply #10 on: 02-03-2005 20:30 »

Yes, Im pretty sure they said beethoven. All music (except the grumpy sanail) sounds amazing.
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #11 on: 02-04-2005 03:15 »

The sheet music was from a Beethoven piece (one of his symphonies, I think), but the balcony solo in question was a Tyng original.
RS 2thou

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« Reply #12 on: 02-04-2005 04:58 »

Coundn't they have gotten sound from an instritment then recorded the sound from and then change what it sounds like on computer?
cujoe169
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« Reply #13 on: 02-06-2005 21:44 »

another question... i thought they said only a few people in the world could play well... yet in the devil's idle hands, the kid plays pretty damn well...
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #14 on: 02-07-2005 00:45 »
« Last Edit on: 02-07-2005 00:45 »

^Either it was just a slip, or something else.

And that something else is: <Remember when Leela said only a few people could play it in the world? Well, even though she said they're not very good at it, there's always the off chance someone could be good. It's possible that those kids are that off chance.>
Bender-is-Great

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« Reply #15 on: 02-07-2005 13:39 »

Or, (I'm grasping at straws here)Maybe they were like genetically engineered to be good holophoner players!  That or the wizards did it.  wink
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #16 on: 02-08-2005 04:14 »

Oh, sure, blame the wizards!

Either Leela was mistaken, or in the time that lapsed between PL and TDHaIPt the holophoner became more popular, and people started learning it.  That's just my opinion, though.
Fry1077

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« Reply #17 on: 02-08-2005 20:56 »
« Last Edit on: 02-08-2005 20:56 »

I think the sound of the Holophoner is more like a synthesizer. Doesn't really sound like one instrument
Jicannon

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« Reply #18 on: 02-09-2005 09:37 »

It's a tympani, obviously  roll eyes
Bender-is-Great

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« Reply #19 on: 02-09-2005 10:24 »

Huh? (Does search on yahoo) Oh, it's the Spaceballs drums!  Now I know what you're talking about.  And you're right about them sounding like a holophoner  laff
swidzi

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« Reply #20 on: 02-09-2005 17:40 »
« Last Edit on: 02-09-2005 17:40 »

Well in case anyone noticed I think that one of the orchestra man in the Taste of Freedom (before Nixon's speech) is playing a holophoner... But I could be mistaken...
Shaucker

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« Reply #21 on: 02-09-2005 22:02 »

There's a thread about that somewhere in the archives. The deliberation was that it kinda looked like a holophoner, but there were no holo-effects.
Oh, and whoever said there was clarinet is wrong.

(if anyone wants the written to the Grumpy Snail, I did that in my free time)
Bender-is-Great

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« Reply #22 on: 02-09-2005 23:03 »
« Last Edit on: 02-09-2005 23:03 »

By 'written' I assume you mean the sheet music (or equivilent)  wink  If you wouldn't mind I'd like to have a peek at it.  I'm sure if I tried to play it on my sax I'd sound similar to Fry, pre-Robot Devil's hands.   laff  (I've only had the sax for about 3 weeks now, so I'm still a newbie)
cujoe169
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« Reply #23 on: 02-16-2005 23:22 »

sorry needed to sign in the other button wasn't working
Andy1234

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« Reply #24 on: 03-02-2005 15:50 »

why don't you write to Matt Groening and ask him
TheGingerKid

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« Reply #25 on: 03-05-2005 16:01 »
« Last Edit on: 03-05-2005 16:01 »

They are different instanments depending on whether it is good playing or bad playing. ON the grumpy snail it sounds like it could be an alto sax or maybe sop sax with a heavey reed... Although there are alterations in pitch (done artificially) that makes it hard to tell. When the Instrament is played well it sounds like a Flute possibly a tenor flute. but its heavily reverbed. There is also background sounds which sound like low end glass chime with this.
GenderBender26

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« Reply #26 on: 03-05-2005 16:35 »

It sounded like a Fulte, but im not shure.

winna

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« Reply #27 on: 03-05-2005 16:39 »

Is it just me, or does the holophoner look like a reverse penis?  Phallic image on the brain perhaps?
GenderBender26

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« Reply #28 on: 03-05-2005 17:08 »

Uhh, i never thought about it. . .
cujoe169
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« Reply #29 on: 03-05-2005 19:15 »

probably just you... i'm jk, no it doesen kindof resenble one... but doesn't an oboe resemble one as well then?
Holophoner

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« Reply #30 on: 05-16-2005 09:24 »

Hey, i loooove the song Fry plays on the balcony with the holophoner. When i first heard it i wanted to cry   cry  but i'm in luck(kinda) i found a web site with the song on it.
 http://www.thefryhole.co.uk/devilshands.php

Go here and you'll be able to download it.
To bad its so short.

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futz
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« Reply #31 on: 05-16-2005 14:07 »

Sounds like a South American wooden flute.
Jicannon

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« Reply #32 on: 05-16-2005 16:30 »

Holophoner's a cry baby! Look at him cry!  laff
Wooter

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« Reply #33 on: 05-16-2005 21:25 »

Ha ha! C'mon Jicannon, let's take his lunch money!
TwistedMetalKat

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« Reply #34 on: 05-17-2005 01:45 »

The holophoner looks and sounds an aweful lot like an oboe mixed with a panflute.
Holophoner

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« Reply #35 on: 05-17-2005 09:53 »

"None of you cried when old yeller got shot...I cried my eyes out."  wink
I

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« Reply #36 on: 05-17-2005 10:13 »

Letīs not be so mean against Holophoner, shall we? After all, itīs not like it is his fault heīs a wuss...

 Nah, just kidding; of course we should make fun of him.
Holophoner

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« Reply #37 on: 05-17-2005 10:41 »

Hey at least i am sensitive to music, it's not like i cried at the end of "Jurassic Bark"...   cry

THAT POOR DOG WAS SITTING THERE WAITING FOR FRY TO RETURN BUT...HE NEVER DID!!!  cry

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I

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« Reply #38 on: 05-17-2005 10:52 »

Ouch... bugger. You just put your finger on the most touching moment in the show... And anyone saying anything else is a dog-hating communist.

 But thatīs a completely other thread... Back on topic: I unīno.
ebotron

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« Reply #39 on: 05-28-2005 15:51 »

I think the guy that asked the question has long ago given up and left the country
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