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Benderboy123

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« on: 10-18-2004 21:57 »

How the hell do you crack an alien language? Like AL3 (if it even exists) has made people go practically nuts trying to crack it, and I also want to go nuts trying to crack it. So the people who helped crack AL1 or AL2, please tell me so I can help you guys.

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germanfryfan

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« Reply #1 on: 10-18-2004 22:10 »

Hm... very well chosen thread title...

well AL 1 isn't that hard to crack. Each alien Character stands for a normal latin one.

AL 2 (BetaCrypt 3 ???) is a bit, but realy only a bit, more complex. But it still is an easy algorithm you can decode from simple observing.

hint: Whenever there are two signs in a row, it means that the second one is an "a"  wink
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #2 on: 10-19-2004 03:58 »

There's software on the Net, if you know where to look. Hint: Futurama sites.
Benderboy123

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« Reply #3 on: 10-19-2004 23:16 »

I know, but I'm talking about alien alphabet 3.
Teral

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« Reply #4 on: 10-21-2004 13:39 »

 
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Originally posted by Benderboy123:
How the hell do you crack an alien language? Like AL3 has made people go practically nuts trying to crack it, and I also want to go nuts trying to crack it.

"What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?"

There are no organised effort to crack AL3, for the very simple reason that it's futile. We have at best 3 examples of AL3 (and 2 of them pretty questionable), and no rosetta stone as we did on AL2.

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« Reply #5 on: 10-21-2004 17:07 »

Hang on, what are the three examples? In particular the non-questionable one? I can think of two examples (The three letters on Leela's bracelet and the hard-to-see eyechart in LTH) but nothing that seems any more certain than the various gibberish characters seen throughout the show such as in the Trisolian throne room and the vaguely AL2-ish writing sometimes seen on computer screens.
Benderboy123

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« Reply #6 on: 10-21-2004 17:15 »

Like the wierd writing on the sign unlike other languages that probably says "don't drink the emperor"
Teral

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« Reply #7 on: 10-21-2004 17:15 »

I judge Leela's bracelet to be the non-questionable one. One of the questionable appears in "My Three Suns" as a sign in the throne room. Pic in this thread. The eyechart was the second questionable one. Either way, we're light years away from cracking an eventual AL3. AL2 wasn't cracked before we got the rosetta stone in "The Day The Earth Stood Stupid", and we'll need something equally clear for AL3. Maybe even a few of them.
Benderboy123

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« Reply #8 on: 10-21-2004 17:16 »

In my three suns the writing appears, sorry for not putting that in.
kiffan

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« Reply #9 on: 10-27-2004 12:45 »

I think that in the commentary for M3S, they list some of the things that the signs say. Help?
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« Reply #10 on: 10-27-2004 14:12 »
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I didn't recall such being mentioned, and I just checked the commentary.  Unless it's not mentioned during the actual scene (I listened to before the scene and after a bit), there's nothing about the signs at all.

David X. Cohen said that Leela's bracelet had AL3 on the commentary, right?
Benderboy123

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« Reply #11 on: 11-02-2004 20:21 »
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I dunno, I have'nt bought a dvd yet, maybe I should. but still, I would like to see some effort. In my other thread, Teral mentioned they took a guess at decoding the billboards and crap in sp3k. So should'nt it say something like her name? also, has anyone tried to decode the language? Has anybody even tried to guess at it? (because I have)
JDB

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« Reply #12 on: 11-03-2004 01:13 »

I think in "The Series Has Landed" David X Cohen says something about decoding the language.
"Tasty Human Burgers" the sign said.
Benderboy123

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« Reply #13 on: 11-03-2004 17:02 »

I know that, I saw and decoded it myself. But has anyone tried to decode leelas bracelet yet?
Teral

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« Reply #14 on: 11-03-2004 17:10 »

No. [Borg]Decoding is futile.[/Borg]
Benderboy123

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« Reply #15 on: 11-03-2004 18:57 »

Oh well. But it was in the fourth season, and there was a fifth one. So it could be in the fifth, or just does'nt exist.
Teral

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« Reply #16 on: 11-04-2004 14:06 »

There were no fifth season. "Leela's Homeworld" was the second episode of season 4, there were 16 additional episodes after that one.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #17 on: 11-04-2004 15:15 »

Right, we generally go by production season here.

Rough Draft studios produced four full seasons of Futurama.
FOX Broadcasting spread them out over five airing seasons, because they're retarded.  We usually call these "McSeasons" to avoid confusion.
Since most people on this board are either foreign, like my Danish compadre above, or got into Futurama based on the reruns or the DVDs, like me, we like to think of it as having four seasons.

And no, it doesn't look like there were any more "AL3" appearances after Leela's homeworld.
If you really want to see AL3, you'll help campaign for new episodes or a movie (Check this thread for the latest crackpot scheme.)
Benderboy123

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« Reply #18 on: 11-04-2004 16:47 »

I nnow there is no fifth season. but tvtome says differently. But there are still way more eps after leelas homeworld.
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« Reply #19 on: 11-08-2004 02:26 »

There is no OFFICIAL AL3.  Yes, those glyphs on Leela's bracelet may be possible, but the series never developed long enough to make that a confirmation.  One thing I would wonder is what 3 characters could say anyway (meaningful-wise)... 

In "My Three Suns", I almost thought that was the Aurebesh font...  It isn't though.  Some characters look similar.

This very site (CGEF) has decoders for AL1 and 2.  One character is missing from AL2.

If you want even more details, go to http://usuarios.lycos.es/bbrp/index_eng.html

He's got all the sightings (even stuff that NOBODY would look for).  And other strange characters that show up.

kiffan

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« Reply #20 on: 11-15-2004 10:49 »

3 carecters could say a lot if they were one WORD carecters, like Japanise.
Benderboy123

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« Reply #21 on: 11-15-2004 19:28 »

hey, you're right. I've never thought of it that way.........but all this talk about AL3 has come to make me think there just is'nt an alien language like that.
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