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Spacedal11

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« on: 08-29-2004 19:54 »

I'm almost certain I haven't seen this asked before. I was thinking in the time skip that leads Fry & Leela to get married why would Tate and the other Globetrotters be there? Because this is actually a really long skip first,
Leela would have to except Fry,
than they'd have to start dating which could be for a long time,
and than Fry'd have to propose,
than they'd have to make all the arrangments,
and finally they'd get married.
And if at the end of the episodes the Globetrotters leave how would Fry & Leela contact them to come to their wedding? Just curious... roll eyes
hobojobo

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« Reply #1 on: 08-29-2004 21:08 »

Bear with me on this explanation, because I barely know what I'm talking about. Is it at all possible that there are smaller time skips within the bigger one? Therefore, throughout the time in which Fry was dating, proposing to, and marrying Leela, there were smaller time skips going on, so the Globetrotters stayed. But then the bigger time skip skipped over the smaller ones. Either that, or the Globetrotters just came back for another basketball game, and while they were there, they got invited to the wedding.
Gwan101

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« Reply #2 on: 08-29-2004 21:36 »

... or you know. They DID say they were from the Globetrotter plannet, and they could have just invited them.

I'm sure that they have other ways of tracking them down too.

But if you want to get all technical, go with hobo's.
Teral

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« Reply #3 on: 08-30-2004 06:27 »

We saw earlier that time skips can happen very localised and at tremendous speed (the two teenagers changing into senior citizens), the same thing probably happened to Leela and Fry.

I don't think the dating period were that long. Fry is very impulsive, he'd probably spring the big question quickly.
Venus

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« Reply #4 on: 08-30-2004 09:48 »

but Leela's not impulsive and would have wanted time to think it over.
Teral

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« Reply #5 on: 08-30-2004 10:21 »

When Adlai sugested having children she readily accepted right away. I think marriage would be the same thing. Leela may be reluctant to take the first step into something new, but once that happen she seem to embrace the next steps more quickly. See also resigning the FAO corps and joining PE.
kiffan

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« Reply #6 on: 09-15-2004 13:01 »

Leala was probably so amased that Fry would do that, that they got married right away.  besides, who said it had to make sense?  the sports anouncer was there too.  confused

And if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. --Groucho Marx.
LoveForFry

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« Reply #7 on: 09-15-2004 16:42 »

I just cant wait to see the episode, since i havent seen it yet.
Nibblonian

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« Reply #8 on: 09-18-2004 14:19 »

 
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Originally posted by Spacedal11:
this is actually a really long skip

Something just occured to me. In that episode (TKOS), Farnsworth points out that select areas are skipping years at a time. Two kids were out on the sidewalk complaining about paying for social security, then they skip all the way till they're elderly and they "deserve free money!" This makes the wedding planning seem rather short.

LoveForFrye, it's a great episode. A lot of people say it's their favorite episode, or at least in their top five. And when I say "a lot of people," I include myself.  big grin
Astral Runner

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« Reply #9 on: 09-18-2004 16:42 »
« Last Edit on: 09-18-2004 16:42 »

Bah, Leela already knows how Fry feels about her, this wouldn't change that. Regardless of Fry's feelings, Fry and Leela just aren't similar enough. Fry's stupidity is exemplified in his belife in the idea that there is one magical thing he can do to get someone to love him. Idiot. Relationships based on idolization rarely work out in the long run anyway.

I'd have to agree with Leela: Fry probably tricked her, somehow.
f_r

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« Reply #10 on: 09-18-2004 18:13 »
« Last Edit on: 09-18-2004 18:13 »

tkos is filled with mistakes, one that i can think of off the top of my head is where it first starts happening. There all really confsed, wheras later in the episode, the professor sais that they act the same during the time skips.
And this isnt a mistake, but on the very first time skip, where the burning hole flashes onscreen, u can see part of somebodys helmet, if u pause it. Meaning that they just used a close up of the hole, when they were retreiving the thingos.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #11 on: 09-18-2004 18:18 »
« Last Edit on: 09-18-2004 18:18 »

 
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Originally posted by Astral Runner
There all really confsed, wheras later in the episode, the professor sais that they act the same during the time skips.

They're quite confused every time it happens, except Leela at the divorce hearing, because she thought of it before the skip started.  They act normally, but have no memory of the time between the start of the skip and the end.  The only hole here is that after the skip following the basketball game, they end up standing in the exact same spots the following day and are surprised by the charging elephant, which can be explained as coincidence.

EDIT: I'm going to add this in here, since I didn't see Astral Runner's post until after I posted, and I dont feel like posting again.

 
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Originally posted by Astral Runner
Fry and Leela just aren't similar enough.
Since when does that matter?  They complement each other.  He supports her emotionally, and she keeps him from dying stupidly.  I'll keep this short and maybe start a shipper vs. anti-shipper poll thread later, but I need to respond to one more thing:
 
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Originally posted by Astral Runner
I'd have to agree with Leela: Fry probably tricked her, somehow.
1.  No way is he that much of a sleazeball
2.  He's not competent enough to do that.
3.  The "Magical thing" is perfectly feasible.  Leela, as I have stated earlier, loves over-the-top artistic displays of affection. (EX: PL, this ep, and TDHAIP, as well as other eps from other males.)  The star thing caps any other achievement in the history of men trying to impress women.
Venus

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« Reply #12 on: 09-18-2004 18:18 »

 
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Originally posted by Astral Runner:
Bah, Leela already knows how Fry feels about her, this wouldn't change that. Regardless of Fry's feelings, Fry and Leela just aren't similar enough.

Not true. Parallel Fry and Leela were happily married and very much in love. And they even said in the commentary that the personalities of the doubles were identical.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #13 on: 09-18-2004 19:56 »

That's what I was thinking of. You Astral Runner must have recently read, Leela's Affair. No offense but it is really not worth reading. And I'm not just saying that because it has a different story line that is based on Fry & Leela's love life. I'm also saying that cause there are things in there that the characters wouldn't say or do.

But anyway, this episode makes me think a lot. I mean you wonder things like what if, Leela saw Fry's love note? And what if Bender joined the Globetrotters. (That's not important really, I just felt sorry for him at the end of the ep).

That's a good point Venus. I have yet to watch any season4 episodes with the commintary on but I should. And you know, Fry & Leela do like doing some of the same things together such as making fun of Cubert! Bad example but I digress.
Astral Runner

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« Reply #14 on: 09-19-2004 02:54 »

No time for a full post, but I must say, that I've never read, nor have I even heard of this so-called "Leela's Affair", which I assume is some work of fan-fiction.
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #15 on: 09-19-2004 19:23 »

Leela's Affair

Anyway, Astral Runner, Fry and Leela aren't that much alike--I'll give you that. But, have you ever heard the saying, "oppisites attract"? I mean, Leela and Fry probably only have one or two things in common (perhaps more--I'm not counting), but it's obvious that there's something special between them (to both the viewers and the writers). I can accept that you aren't a shipper and that you don't believe that Fry and Leela could ever get together, but when you look at the facts, it's pretty obvious.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #16 on: 09-19-2004 19:40 »
« Last Edit on: 09-19-2004 19:40 »

   
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Originally posted by f_r:
tkos is filled with mistakes, one that i can think of off the top of my head is where it first starts happening. There all really confsed, wheras later in the episode, the professor sais that they act the same during the time skips.

Well, we see that they act the same, but at the same time can't really remember what they did during the skip.  So its not really a mistake.  Everytime a skip starts and ends, they come back to normal without knowing what they had done.

In terms of the first questions from SpaceDal....I think what it comes down to is that that was the joke.  It doesn't really make sense, none of the episode does really.  How do they build the "bad ass Gravity pump" so quickly, for instance?  How does Fry somehow lose that game so badly?  How did they even end up with AFC/NFL helmets at the divorce?  What exactly did a nude conga line have to do with fixing the time skips?  The joke with most of the time-skips anyways is that it always cuts to something without an explanation of what happened in the meantime, so you just use your imagination.  That's what made the time-skip stuff so ingenious and hilarious in that episode.

Not that the episode doesn't have a good serious element mind you.  It is very touching and the ending was remarkably sad (if far outdone later by Jurassic Bark).  But that element specifically wasn't really meant to be taken too seriously.

Action Jacktion

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« Reply #17 on: 09-19-2004 19:59 »

There was one mistake with the time skips: After the basketball game, the characters are standing around talking, but when it skips forward to the next day, they're all still standing there and wearing the same clothes.  In that case, they just jumped forward a day without anything happening to them, instead of finding themselves in the middle of whatever they were doing the next day.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #18 on: 09-19-2004 23:16 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
   In terms of the first questions from SpaceDal....I think what it comes down to is that that was the joke.  It doesn't really make sense, none of the episode does really.  How do they build the "bad ass Gravity pump" so quickly, for instance?  How does Fry somehow lose that game so badly?  How did they even end up with AFC/NFL helmets at the divorce?  What exactly did a nude conga line have to do with fixing the time skips?  The joke with most of the time-skips anyways is that it always cuts to something without an explanation of what happened in the meantime, so you just use your imagination.  That's what made the time-skip stuff so ingenious and hilarious in that episode.

If I could have said that, I couldn't have said it any better. And Leela's Affair honestly (Sorry Sophie) it stinks. So you aren't missing much Astral.
Corvette

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« Reply #19 on: 09-20-2004 08:13 »

I have an Idea, lets play a game of Guess the Time Skip Happenings! I give a current situation and then suddenly it goes to a diffrent point, you have to guess what happened in between the skipped point of the day.

This will be in a seperate thread if you are wondering!
Spacedal11

Space Pope
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« Reply #20 on: 09-20-2004 21:00 »

Corvette I got 6 words for you: NOT HERE. NOT NOW. BEAT IT.

Welcome to PEEL and all but that has nothing to do with the topic. Stay focused.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #21 on: 09-21-2004 00:13 »

Here's Corvette's game.  It's the first original idea I've seen on the GD board since they came up with AFF.

And it's not here or now, SpaceDal, so it seems to meet your stringent criteria for being "on topic," much like your fanfic critique above.

Don't yell at the newbs...we were all there once.  Hell, I technically still am.
Spacedal11

Space Pope
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« Reply #22 on: 09-21-2004 20:45 »

I didn't yell. No ! marks. And that's quite and impressive game he has. But seriously.
Evil Abe

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« Reply #23 on: 09-21-2004 23:45 »

I think that Fry moving the stars could have moved Leela enough to win her heart.  We know Leela has some feelings for Fry but she think he is to childish for a relationship. 
Philp_J_Fry

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« Reply #24 on: 09-22-2004 23:16 »

I agree with Evil Abe.I think moving the stars moved Leela enough.
evan

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« Reply #25 on: 09-22-2004 23:34 »

 
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Originally posted by Evil Abe:
I think that Fry moving the stars could have moved Leela enough to win her heart.  We know Leela has some feelings for Fry but she think he is to childish for a relationship. 

Here's one thing that bugged me: shouldn't Leela have noticed the love note when she flew the ship into the nebula?  Fry's note is rather large, and should have been obviously read by any passerby.  Yet, somehow, neither Leela, Bender, nor Bubblegum managed to read it.

Bender: "Try this, kids at home!
Warning: do not try this at home
Nerd-o-rama

Urban Legend
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« Reply #26 on: 09-23-2004 00:31 »

    It was at the wrong angle.  Fry presumably built it so it was illegible from Earth (and therefore from all points in a direct line between there and Earth) so that he could
  • Fly to the Nebula without Leela seeing it.
  • Swing the ship around to a different side of the nebula.
  • Hit her with the full effect of several billion tons of burning love note up close.
That different side just happened to be the one they escaped through.

Come to think of it though, it would have been readable to about a quarter of the Universe in between the time skips, presuming they had powerful enough telescopes.  Fry should have done some asking around for witnesses.
Pataloca

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« Reply #27 on: 11-05-2004 01:05 »
« Last Edit on: 11-05-2004 01:05 »

 
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Come to think of it though, it would have been readable to about a quarter of the Universe in between the time skips, presuming they had powerful enough telescopes.  Fry should have done some asking around for witnesses.

Even if that were the case, Fry doesn't have the mental capacity to actually think about the posibility of other planets seeing it. And even if he DID, he wouldn't ask around. It just doesn't seem like a Fry thing to do.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #28 on: 11-05-2004 01:35 »

As far as the one "hole" in the episode is concerned:

It would have been possible for everybody to go home, then come back the next day to resume their debate, thinking that they'd be finished before the circus got there.

Unfortunately, the time skip glossed over this, leaving us with an area of some confusion. It's not that implausible. Not as implausible, for example, as Mr. Bush winning a second term as President.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #29 on: 11-05-2004 02:10 »

Pataloca: Welcome to PEEL, and yes, this is how I satisfied that question in my mind: it's Fry.  He's not going to do everything reasonably possible.  He'll skip straight to the unreasonable and quit if that doesn't work.

TNUK: good to see I'm not the only one who lets his politics spill over into the on-topic forums.
MorboMcFly

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« Reply #30 on: 11-05-2004 06:23 »

Since the time skips weren't universal, I was just under the impression that for some reason the area exactly where the PE crew and Globetrotters didn't happen to be skipped foward, while everything else around them was (sort of the opposite of the little kids complaining about social security).

...and I'm also sort of confused how even Fry could have been that awful even without his seven leaf clover, but there's also a chance that somehow the little spider atomic super-man/mutant was the most important team membe,r it's just everything he did appeared off screen.
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