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Hawk
Professor
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Why shouldn`t they?
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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They don't know the people they nominate.No.
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Archie2K
Space Pope
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I'd like to bring up another rule. When there is a tie for the remaining place/(s), how do we decide who gets into the final place. Is it who got their first vote first, or who reached their eventual total first. I just like complaiing about stuff because I so nearly got into the poll this time . Just by my recognitioning, I got to the total of 4 before anyone else with the same number of votes did, but aslate recieved his first vote before I did, meaning that he got into the final. And I really don't think the newbie thing should be a problem. After all you need about 4 or 5 votes to even get into the final poll... even if you bought a couple of friends down, it shouldn't sway the eventual outcome too much... Besides, who would police it?
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #8 on: 12-03-2002 12:18 »
« Last Edit on: 12-03-2002 12:18 »
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Originally posted by Archie2K: I'd like to bring up another rule. When there is a tie for the remaining place/(s), how do we decide who gets into the final place. Is it who got their first vote first, or who reached their eventual total first. I just like complaiing about stuff because I so nearly got into the poll this time . Just by my recognitioning, I got to the total of 4 before anyone else with the same number of votes did, but aslate recieved his first vote before I did, meaning that he got into the final.
Good point. You got to your total before the others, but Aslate was nominated first. I counted wrong originally (and gave Aslate 5 votes) so I went with Aleel's final count (plus who M5438 nomintated) so, that made Aslate go in and you out. Can't be anything personal, as I nominated you. It's a tough call, perhaps we can clarify this for next month. EDIT: It would have made the task of counting up the votes easier without the spam in that thread.
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Aleel
Starship Captain
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« Reply #9 on: 12-03-2002 12:23 »
« Last Edit on: 12-03-2002 12:23 »
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By the way, Archie, just to calm you: if it would be about getting nominated first in ties it would have been Craig's place to go to the vote. Anyway... I think we should really make up our mind about that. I felt bad about not getting the chance to vote for my favourite PEELer. And we shouldn't do it one way at one month and another way the month after that. Next thing: I don't care if newbies may vote or not, to be honest, I think it should be their decision. They should make up their mind on their own whether they know PEEL good enough already or not.(Newbie's are different from each other anyway, some know PEEL after a week, some don't even do that after months.) And who'd want to check if they did everytime anyway? Edit: I can only agree with Melll's edit. It would be much easier if people would only post their nominations (and reasons). It's also (though I know I did it myself already as well) more difficult to count votes with nicknames in them. If you read about three lines of text for one nomination and have to think who's meant by that it easily leads to difficulties. Also saying that you wanted to nominate ... and .... and ...... but nominated ... and .... instead is wonderful to make people mix up the results. I finally had to make three sheets of paper just to count the stuff and after that I noticed five people nominated though they already got POTM before and I told you so at my first post. *sighs* You're grat though. I love this place.
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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I think that it's a judgement call, really. Because we have had newbies who have gotten into the spirit of things very quickly and contributed to PEEL (viz: Spice Weasel*, MelBee) and therefore, I wouldn't begrudge them the chance of nominating and voting.
However you do have the flipside (the Clampybots of this world).
* - ok, technically NOT a newbie.
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by aslate: Yep, i agree, although some of it was me. Stop doing running totals as well. On that last one there were two (or even 3) totals on the page! I got critisied for doing running totals previously as they said it may influence other people's votes.
Okay, agreed. No running totals is probably a good idea, although for me, it's neither here nor there. People have clear ideas of who they're going to nominate (I know I did), so it's as near as makes no difference. That said, I would like to see one post from each with three names on it which would make the task of counting easier. So, no conversatin' and no running totals. In the light of Archie's complaint I think it's absolutely imperitive.
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Archie2K
Space Pope
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The best feeling however is being congratulated for correct use of the word "'cause". Also, you're right. PCC got nominated before aslate... but still the poll is up so what can you do about it. Also complaint is such an ugly word. I prefer constructive critisism. Also, thanks to everyone who nominated me... bribes are in the post. Expect them in 4 to 6 weeks.
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ZombieJesus
Lost Belgian
DOOP Secretary
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...And just how are you going to keep newbies from voting?
"I 'm sorry, you have registered here less than a month ago, so you 're not allowed to vote yet."
I don't think mArc would be willing to implement this protocol
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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If it's of any comfort to you Archie, you have one nomination reserved for next month to add to this months (BTW: the posts in "How Ugly Are You" swung it for me).
Okay, this is what we do. The count goes up, two days after the thread is open, once the count goes up there are no more nominations allowed.
The thread should stay open for the count to be seconded (or thirded, or whatever - say, for two hours), then if there are no further objections the Poll should be created.
Sound fair?
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Archie2K
Space Pope
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No-one is infallible. We can always go back and look at Ben's miserable two attempts at creating POTM polls last months Was that lost with the old board? Also Aleel, I was congratulating you. You should be pleased. *note to self: Never congratulate anyone ever again* Good now that's sorted.
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]PaulFSAC[
Professor
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One question and I know it's possibly controversial coming from me, but - Is there any necessary for this award? I know I'll never win as I don't post often enough to even get nominated, so it's not sour grapes, I just don't see the point of it.
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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Sometimes because it feels nice to have the recognition of your peers.
I'm a big believer in "The Warm Fuzzy Feeling"(tm).
Doesn't do any harm, you know?
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]PaulFSAC[
Professor
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Originally posted by Melllvar: Sometimes because it feels nice to have the recognition of your peers.
I'm a big believer in "The Warm Fuzzy Feeling"(tm).
Doesn't do any harm, you know? That's what the PEELIES are there fore. As you may notice from my Siggy Block text, I shared mine, not hogged it for myself, as I was shocked and delighted to actually win something, that I knew nothing about.
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Hawk
Professor
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Originally posted by homerjaysimpson: I agree with Paul.POTM is really nothing to worry about. Then why is it MTV-awards? And other awards? hmm?
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