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PEE Poll: Should the intermediate results be hidden; vote changes allowed?
intermediate results hidden; no vote changes   -10 (45.5%)
intermediate results hidden; allow vote changes   -6 (27.3%)
intermediate results visible to all; no vote changes   -0 (0%)
intermediate results visible to all; allow vote changes   -0 (0%)
intermediate results visible to those who voted; no vote changes   -6 (27.3%)
intermediate results visible to those who voted; allow vote changes   -0 (0%)
Total Voters: 18

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« on: 04-26-2011 20:30 »
« Last Edit on: 04-28-2011 06:02 »

Final rules poll, I hope. The poll is open for one day; you may vote for all choices you support; vote changes are allowed in this one.
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« Reply #1 on: 04-26-2011 20:32 »

I'm going with "intermediate results hidden; allow vote changes". Hidden seems the most fair and adds suspense and vote changes are a good thing if someone else gives a convincing reason why to vote for a specific candidate.
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« Reply #2 on: 04-26-2011 20:34 »

I went with option...

*counts*

eeer, 5, yeah I think I counted that right; "intermediate results visible to those who voted; no vote changes"...
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« Reply #3 on: 04-26-2011 20:38 »

I stick with "intermediate results hidden; no vote changes" for the reasons I said before:

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I say make the votes only visible after the 5 days and no changes allowed either. If you can see who's in what place your vote might gets influenced and you are more likely to vote for someone with higher votes already than whoever you were going to vote for in the 1st place.
I also don't like the idea of being able to switch votes. Once you decided to vote you are done, you can't go back and redo your votes in elections etc. either.
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« Reply #4 on: 04-26-2011 20:43 »

I'm going with "intermediate results hidden; allow vote changes". Hidden seems the most fair and adds suspense and vote changes are a good thing if someone else gives a convincing reason why to vote for a specific candidate.

This. Sorry, Otis and Booze. frown

Otis and Booze... Where have I heard that combination before, Barney?
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« Reply #5 on: 04-26-2011 20:45 »

Oatmeal and Booze maybe?
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« Reply #6 on: 04-26-2011 20:50 »

If we're hiding the results from everyone then allow changes. If we're showing them  after a vote then do not allow changes.

Having them visible to those who haven't voted is a definite no.
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« Reply #7 on: 04-26-2011 21:05 »
« Last Edit on: 04-26-2011 21:11 »

I'm going with "intermediate results hidden; allow vote changes". Hidden seems the most fair and adds suspense and vote changes are a good thing if someone else gives a convincing reason why to vote for a specific candidate.

Whilst I agree with most of this, I think once you've cast your vote, you should be unable to renege on it. I mean, if you've voted for somebody, chances are that you think they deserve to win, right? I don't think people should be allowed to get away with changing their vote just so that it's more in line with the majority, as people might be likely to do.
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« Reply #8 on: 04-26-2011 21:09 »

But it's like I said, I sometimes have a tendency to think "Ah well, I dunno who to vote for so I'll just pick X"

It's not often, but then oftentimes I'll find myself going back and thinking "Ah shite, I didn't remember that Y did something awesome, and I could have voted for them."

It's not something I think people would use often, but it would be handy for those of us who sometimes forget things.
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« Reply #9 on: 04-26-2011 21:12 »

Those of you who sometimes forget things would have to think for another five seconds, or perhaps look through the nomination-worthy posts thread? Oh deary me. Your convenience is so much more important than actually running POTM in a slightly more meaningful manner.

Oh and by the way, I was being sarcastic! tongue
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« Reply #10 on: 04-26-2011 21:16 »

Interesting. Totalnerduk's arguments have made me reconsider this issue.

I sure am glad that I have the option to change my vote. smile
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« Reply #11 on: 04-26-2011 21:20 »

Have we decided whether we're having a nomination-worthy posts thread?
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« Reply #12 on: 04-26-2011 21:24 »

Those of you who sometimes forget things would have to think for another five seconds, or perhaps look through the nomination-worthy posts thread? Oh deary me. Your convenience is so much more important than actually running POTM in a slightly more meaningful manner.

Oh and by the way, I was being sarcastic! tongue

I can read you fairly well, so I knew that was sarcasm.

My point is that not everyone has the time to run through pages looking to see which candidate they should vote for, should someone they nominated not make it onto the poll. In that case you would probably say then they shouldn't vote, which is sure encouraging.

What is the problem with being able to change your vote when you can't actually see the results of other people's?

But to be honest, if someone who doesn't have the time to trawl through hundreds of posts looking to see who was better that month, and they do decide to just pick someone random, how the hell does that make POTM any more meaningful than them coming back and changing their vote because they realised someone else was more deserving.

I said I didn't think it would be utilised by many, but it would be nice to have the option at times.

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« Reply #13 on: 04-26-2011 21:52 »

Have we decided whether we're having a nomination-worthy posts thread?

Already tried that.  It doesn't work because nobody has the patience nor attention span to find their favourite PEEL posts and copy/paste them to a different thread.
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« Reply #14 on: 04-26-2011 21:55 »

Have we decided whether we're having a nomination-worthy posts thread?

Already tried that.  It doesn't work because nobody has the patience nor attention span to find their favourite PEEL posts and copy/paste them to a different thread.

I guess I'm nobody. Oh well. Better luck next lifetime, I suppose. roll eyes
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« Reply #15 on: 04-26-2011 21:57 »

I assume you mean it was tried in Off Topic. It might be different if the thread were easily located in its own sub-forum?

But I can certainly see how apathy would scupper things.
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« Reply #16 on: 04-26-2011 22:16 »

I think having a permanently stickied nomination-worthy posts thread in this subforum would be a good idea.

Just one. Not a new one every month.
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« Reply #17 on: 04-26-2011 22:37 »

I went option 1 and 5...although if votes remain hidden, i can see allowing a vote change. But traditionally I like no vote changes.
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« Reply #18 on: 04-26-2011 22:39 »

I think having a permanently stickied nomination-worthy posts thread in this subforum would be a good idea.

Just one. Not a new one every month.

Yes. This, this. A thousand times this.
I went option 1 and 5...although if votes remain hidden, i can see allowing a vote change. But traditionally I like no vote changes.

And this. Anybody who doesn't vote for the same thing that futurefreak does... um... doesn't... like... boobs? Or something.
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« Reply #19 on: 04-26-2011 22:59 »

I think having a permanently stickied nomination-worthy posts thread in this subforum would be a good idea.

Just one. Not a new one every month.

I only have an issue with its stickiness - there will be so few active threads in this forum there seems little point.
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« Reply #20 on: 04-27-2011 04:13 »

Have we decided whether we're having a nomination-worthy posts thread?

Already tried that.  It doesn't work because nobody has the patience nor attention span to find their favourite PEEL posts and copy/paste them to a different thread.

I guess I'm nobody. Oh well. Better luck next lifetime, I suppose. roll eyes

http://www.peelified.com/index.php?topic=16017.0

roll eyes
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« Reply #21 on: 04-27-2011 04:27 »

Totally not the same thing.
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« Reply #22 on: 04-27-2011 04:35 »

Totally see how you didn't participate at all. smile
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« Reply #23 on: 04-27-2011 09:55 »

No switching votes.  What is this, 2000 in Florida?

I think hiding the results until the poll closes is a good way to liven up the award.  People might discuss who they picked and why a little more, and maybe try to figure out who is really going to win.
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« Reply #24 on: 04-27-2011 11:09 »

....Pecker?

QOTM, interesting idea. I don't think it's the same thing, however.
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« Reply #25 on: 04-27-2011 11:54 »

Totally see how you didn't participate at all. smile

Read what you linked to. I'll think you find I did. Asshat.
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« Reply #26 on: 04-27-2011 13:45 »

No switching votes.  What is this, 2000 in Florida?

Context fail. On that occasion, nobody switched their votes. roll eyes

There was a controversial recount, but we've had those on PEEL before under entirely unrelated circumstances.
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« Reply #27 on: 04-27-2011 16:09 »

Damn it man, I was trying to be silly, and reminding of a time when votes were controversially being disallowed and reallowed with the whole "hanging chad" thing.

I fail so good.
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« Reply #28 on: 04-27-2011 16:13 »

I fail so good.

Fail so good.
Come on SpaceMaN, make it fail so good.
Sometimes honorable mentions don't feel like they should;
You make it fail so good!
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« Reply #29 on: 04-27-2011 19:40 »

So... poll due to be closed, looks like we have a consensus, nice job everybody. Does this mean we now actually have a full set of rules for POTM?  big grin Excellent. Looking forward to some truly exciting times testing the new system with April 2011's POTM contest.
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« Reply #30 on: 04-27-2011 19:48 »

We're still not voted on what to do in cases of ties in the nominations and the poll.
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