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DrJohnZ

Starship Captain
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« Reply #40 on: 07-10-2004 13:32 »

Bumping is better then creating a pointless thread... and this is to whoever can do this. Can anyone change the "Raging Bender" poll under misc. in the lounge home?
Black_Rose

Crustacean
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« Reply #41 on: 07-11-2004 01:01 »

Can you get kicked out for cussing?
Tweek

UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #42 on: 07-11-2004 05:34 »

 
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Originally posted by Black_Rose:
Can you get kicked out for cussing?
Depends how far you go, there isn't a rule against swearing but if you do it too much it would get annoying.


DrJohnZ

Starship Captain
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« Reply #43 on: 07-29-2004 21:52 »

Anyone who can set how people sign in, I suggest telling new people not to create a new thread saying that they're new.
Create a window pop-up or something saying, "everyone at PEEL welcomes you, but please don't create a new message saying your new" or something like that.

just a thought, it might help stop the "Hi, I'm new" threads.
Y_L_B

Professor
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« Reply #44 on: 07-29-2004 22:08 »

I was thinking about all of the "I'm New" threads, but I don't think that a pop-up would be good.

1. Some people have pop-up blockers.
2. They're annoying.

I think that there should be a link to Aslate's FAQ, and not only do people have to agree to it, they have to take a quiz at the end to make sure they really did read it. Not only would it help stop "Hi, I'm new" threads, but it could cut down spam and stuff.

Just an idea...
DrJohnZ

Starship Captain
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« Reply #45 on: 07-29-2004 23:08 »

I don't know about a quiz, but maybe it should be that you can only create a thread after becoming a Crustacean! wow that just came to me  smile
winna

Avatar Czar
DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #46 on: 07-30-2004 00:21 »

I signed up on the AS boards the other day.  Not that I would ever want PEEL to degenerate down to that garbage fest, but when you sign up it had a disclaimer saying that you couldn't make new threads for 2 days.  I don't think we've had any trolls who have joined up and started spamming 24 hours right off the bat, but it is an implementable idea....  roll eyes
DrJohnZ

Starship Captain
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« Reply #47 on: 07-30-2004 08:01 »

I think to become a crustacean from a poppler you have to post 5 times. That should hopefuly be enough time to realize that you shouldn't have to make a "HI, I'm new" thread, and with exploring the sight, and reading previous posts, they should get the hang of things before they make pointless threads.
I don't know, it's an idea, that should be looked into...
aslate

Space Pope
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« Reply #48 on: 07-30-2004 09:26 »

 
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Originally posted by DrJohnZ:
I think to become a crustacean from a poppler you have to post 5 times.

Really? Jeez, i must have the PEELers' FAQ wrong...
    * 1 - Poppler -
    * 5 - Crustacean -
    * 50 - Delivery boy -
    * 100 - Bending unit -
    * 500 - Starship captain -
    * 1000 - Professor -
    * 1800 - Liquid emperor -
    * 3001 - Urban legend -
    * 6667 - Space Pope -
    * 10000 - DOOP Secretary -
I think there's no point in trying to stop "Hi, i'm new" threads. They're not a problem and mostly get a few welcome posts, links to the PEELers' FAQ and info explaining that they aren't allowed and will be closed.

People will not read/take heed of messages in a pop-up window, or in the email or anything saying "Please do not create 'Hi, i'm new' threads". Those that are going to make them will make them, those that won't, won't.

TheLampIncident

Urban Legend
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« Reply #49 on: 07-30-2004 11:38 »

 
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Originally posted by aslate:
  I think there's no point in trying to stop "Hi, i'm new" threads. They're not a problem and mostly get a few welcome posts, links to the PEELers' FAQ and info explaining that they aren't allowed and will be closed.

If there's one thing I don't like about these threads it's that the new person suddenly thinks they're special, and people give respect to a person they don't even know. But if you want it to stop, I suggest something like a sticky in one of the forums to welcome yourself under. It would probably be most effective in General Discussion. I'm aware they had a thread like that in Offtopic, but most of the noobs I see don't post in Offtopic, they post in the Futurama related threads.
Tweek

UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #50 on: 07-30-2004 14:29 »

The problem isn't so much newbies posting "Hi I'm new" threads, they don't know any better, it is PEEL regulars who reply rather than just leaving it to be closed, perhaps one reply saying not to expect it to stay open or get many replies would be ok, but not any more.
3/4 of a Jesus

Starship Captain
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« Reply #51 on: 07-30-2004 20:56 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2004 20:56 »

 
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Originally posted by Y_L_B:
I was thinking about all of the "I'm New" threads, but I don't think that a pop-up would be good.

1. Some people have pop-up blockers.
2. They're annoying.

I think that there should be a link to Aslate's FAQ, and not only do people have to agree to it, they have to take a quiz at the end to make sure they really did read it. Not only would it help stop "Hi, I'm new" threads, but it could cut down spam and stuff.

Just an idea...

I agree wholeheartedly. On this site I submit writing to called Wyvern's Library, you have to read a FAQ and then take a test to be accepted, and on that site the newbies aren't bad at all. However, for the quiz idea to work, the moderators would have to take on a lot more work, which they might not be willing to do... there's a lot on the site for them to do already. In that case, maybe it would be best to leave the "Hi, I'm new" threads close like Tweek says.
Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #52 on: 07-31-2004 04:53 »
« Last Edit on: 07-31-2004 04:53 »

Having to take a test to sign up for a messageboard? Why stop there? Have them submit a DNA sample so we can run test, a lock of their hair to weed out the drugaddicts and finally their firstborn as hostage. Then a 10 man  committee will judge the application and 4-6 months later an approval will probably be mailed to the applicant.

PEEL have 4907 members. At the most 15 of those have been trolls or exhibited troll-like behavior. In that regard PEEL is rather fortunate in comparison with certain other messageboards, yet people propose we introduce new ways of keeping new members out. Are we really that paranoid that we will allow those 0.3% of newcomers to have this much power? I know that if I had to take a written test when I signed up, I would've gone to The Hip Joint instead. Stop treating newcomers as a potential threat to our board, start seeing them as a valuable new part.

And while I'm at it, a few words about the PEEL FAQ: remember, the FAQ is just that, answers to Frequently Asked Questions, not the codified Lex PEEL or a constitution. These are the official rules, the FAQ is sensible guidelines, nothing more. And quite frankly, lately I've seen a disturbing amount of regulars make gross violations of official rule #3, while calling for the banning of newcomers who had the audacity to not follow all the guidelines in the FAQ.

[/rant]

 
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By TLI:
But if you want it to stop, I suggest something like a sticky in one of the forums to welcome yourself under

Sadly sticky threads aren't supported by UBB 5.45. There were some talks about mArc cooking up some hack, but he's not been particular efficient about it yet. Very unbecoming for a German.

 
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by Tweek:
The problem isn't so much newbies posting "Hi I'm new" threads, they don't know any better, it is PEEL regulars who reply rather than just leaving it to be closed, perhaps one reply saying not to expect it to stay open or get many replies would be ok, but not any more.

As I recall the rule was not to stay away from "Hi, I'm new"-threads, but that they were closed when a moderator finds them. If I find a "Hi, I'm new"-thread, I have no problem welcoming people to the board. Can you imagine this taking place (because based on current "Hi, I'm new "-threads I definitely can):

Post #1: Hi, im new to this baord, I'm looking forward talking about Futurama with you guys. ...bla-bla-bla-bla...."

Post #2: Fucking newbie This will get closed/stop it!/close this!/*rabbit picture*/etc...

Post 3#: *closed by moderator.

Not particular welcoming.
Tweek

UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #53 on: 07-31-2004 09:45 »

That makes sense Teral, I rather rushed me answer as I have limit on line time at the moment, I should have thought it through more. The problem at the momemt is that most of the replies to "Hi I'm new threads" at the moment are telling the new person that they were wrong and should expect their thread to be closed. Good job we don't get all that many such threads considering the number of new people we get.
3/4 of a Jesus

Starship Captain
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« Reply #54 on: 08-01-2004 19:14 »

*sigh* I too stand corrected. I'm sorry about how I must've sounded.  hmpf
Whoopwhoopwhoop

Professor
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« Reply #55 on: 08-10-2004 14:39 »

Here's a question, do any mods know a thing about how a computer works...?
[-mArc-]

Administrator
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #56 on: 08-10-2004 14:44 »

Well, I do. What kind of a question is that though? The helpdesk is over in the offtopic board  wink
Whoopwhoopwhoop

Professor
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« Reply #57 on: 08-11-2004 23:50 »

Lol of course mArc, why wouldnt you, your only what, the sights creator?
slimmyCGEF

Administrator
Professor
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« Reply #58 on: 08-12-2004 01:05 »

nah he's a worthlesss piece of junk...
winna

Avatar Czar
DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #59 on: 08-12-2004 21:59 »

He's a sights major  wink
PCC Fred

Space Pope
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« Reply #60 on: 08-14-2004 21:47 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Having to take a test to sign up for a messageboard? Why stop there? Have them submit a DNA sample so we can run test, a lock of their hair to weed out the drugaddicts and finally their firstborn as hostage. Then a 10 man  committee will judge the application and 4-6 months later an approval will probably be mailed to the applicant.

Teral channels Hermes.  Or Catbert, I haven't quite decided.

All you guys pissing yourselves over newbies need to chill.  I used to get irate over n00bs opening "Hi, I'm new" threads and the like, until I realised that a)I was wasting my time, and b)My angry responses made me sound like a twat.

But now I've discovered that when one of these threads is opened it's much easier to just sit back and watch Margie/HJS/Lampy/drunkmunky flame themselves into a hilarious funk.
DrJohnZ

Starship Captain
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« Reply #61 on: 08-15-2004 02:34 »

  laff welcome back Fred (haven't herd from you in awhile/at least in the threads I look into).
But you never sounded like a twat... when I was brand new to this place I laughed at all the funny crap you said, esp. at that one prick (davidX#1fan, something like that)
anyway, don't be shy to say something crazy.
TheLampIncident

Urban Legend
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« Reply #62 on: 08-15-2004 02:53 »

Keep in mind that Fred joined two years before you did. I think since he got DOOP Secretary and POTM on the month of his PEELiversary, he's been burned out as far as posting goes.

Normally, I would try to watch myself when dealing with a newbie, trying to get my point across with a firm, yet helpful hand. However, there's no excuse for advertising that kind of bullshit on any message board. He deserved much worse treatment than I gave him.
aslate

Space Pope
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« Reply #63 on: 08-15-2004 15:10 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2004 15:10 »

Topic:   To all Mods, admins, UberMods, and anyone else in charge...

Can we have the Test-Thread back?
Ozor Mox

Starship Captain
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« Reply #64 on: 08-15-2004 19:57 »

It's like an endless cycle...

Test thread is brought back.
Test thread becomes spammed up by spam.
Test thread is closed, deemed never to return.
Other threads receive the spam that would normally be spamming up the test thread.
People ask for test thread to concentrate their spamming needs.
Test thread is brought back.

TheLampIncident

Urban Legend
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« Reply #65 on: 08-15-2004 23:09 »

I don't think it's necessarily the fault of a fast moving thread or spam that caused the last one to explode. When Coop started that avatar war thing, that thread moved awfully fast and it didn't explode. It's just something that happened. Nothing we could do to prevent it, really. Unless PEEL's domain name has artifical intelligence.
germanfryfan

The Listmaker
Urban Legend
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« Reply #66 on: 08-15-2004 23:29 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2004 23:29 »

I think the problem is not that a thread is fast moving, it is more that crashs happen when 2 or more post are made in only one thread in the very same moment. It can confuse the database-engine.

That can happen in every thread there is. (And it does sometimes: i.e. when some posts only show up after another post is made, or entire pages aren't created until someone posts again in it that thread).

edit: btw. I'm pro test-thread.
DrJohnZ

Starship Captain
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« Reply #67 on: 09-01-2004 19:09 »

whats UberMod stand for anyway?
Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #68 on: 09-01-2004 19:12 »
« Last Edit on: 09-01-2004 19:12 »

Nothing, it just means they're one step above Moderators. The only real difference is the ability to give temporary bans.

Uber is internet slang for superior, ie. Uber133t! Probably come from the German word "über" meaning above/over.
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