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PCC Fred

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« on: 10-05-2003 23:12 »

Recently we've had a lot of younger people (SuperFry being the youngest) joining PEEL.  Meanwhile the 20s and 30s PEELers are still talking about sex and swapping dirty jokes.  The ultimate was all that cunt stuff in the love thread last night.  If SuperFry's parents somehow saw it, they'd have grounds for getting PEEL shut down.

Maybe we ought to think about having an over 18s only board to talk about this kind of stuff.

In addition, we need more moderators.  I'm not taking a shot at any current mods here, but there was a six hour period last night where I hardly saw any of you online.  My candidates would be Teral, Melll and aslate.
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #1 on: 10-05-2003 23:27 »

The real thing we need to wonder is how SuperFry managed to find PEEL...

I for one have heard a lot of dirty jokes before, it's nothing new and can't corrupt me any more, so an over-18 board would make me feel left out. The only problem we're having is SuperFry alone being here.

Maybe we need to get rid of him...

I second the nominations.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #2 on: 10-05-2003 23:29 »

Come to think of it, my Futurama DVDs all say "Not to be sold to anybody under 12 years of age"...
Margarita

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« Reply #3 on: 10-05-2003 23:29 »

18s only board? why not just ban all 'dirty' people ?
Drippy_taco

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« Reply #4 on: 10-05-2003 23:45 »

1.  Marc has already hacked away at the UBB coding for this board to allow the number of moderators it currently has.

2.  We've been over this moderation and semantic crap before.  It's not as if PEEL has never had young visitors before.  The prospect of two parents "shutting down" PEEL is completely absurd, the worst they'd do is pay for their ISP's child-lockout service to block "questionable" websites until he's old enough to learn how to hack around it.
3.  An over-18 board would do no good as people would still act the same as they would in any forum, one who dreams of that kind of moderation and context is surely mad or does not understand the basic principles of the internet.
4.  Marc and all other moderators will agree with me on this: It's not worth getting all fussy and politically correct over.  Don't let your panties get too bunched up and we'll all be fine.

 
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Orignally posted by Marge:
18s only board? why not just ban all 'dirty' people ?

I hope that was sarcasm.
Margarita

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« Reply #5 on: 10-06-2003 00:00 »

i don't mean everyone. i mean people like totalnurduk, who like VF mentioned, just post off-topic posts and such.
winna

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« Reply #6 on: 10-06-2003 00:11 »

VF has already threatened to ban him...

And we DO already have an 18 year old an up area... *whisper* Don't you remember the R-rated Forum?
Nurdbot

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« Reply #7 on: 10-06-2003 01:18 »

*crosses fingers* JusttwomoreyearsJusttwomoreye arsJusttwomoreyears....
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #8 on: 10-06-2003 01:19 »

Nurbot is 16?

I learned something new today...
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #9 on: 10-06-2003 01:53 »

Basically, if you don't like it, leave.
winna

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« Reply #10 on: 10-06-2003 02:33 »

I suggest more people go to the chatroom... Certain threads (Test thread *cough cough*) have become real spamfests...  roll eyes
PCC Fred

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« Reply #11 on: 10-06-2003 18:02 »
« Last Edit on: 10-06-2003 18:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Drippy_taco:
1.  Marc has already hacked away at the UBB coding for this board to allow the number of moderators it currently has.

In that case take mod powers off someone who's never here and give them to someone who is.

 
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2.  We've been over this moderation and semantic crap before.  It's not as if PEEL has never had young visitors before.  The prospect of two parents "shutting down" PEEL is completely absurd, the worst they'd do is pay for their ISP's child-lockout service to block "questionable" websites until he's old enough to learn how to hack around it.

Okay, didn't think of that.

 
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3.  An over-18 board would do no good as people would still act the same as they would in any forum, one who dreams of that kind of moderation and context is surely mad or does not understand the basic principles of the internet.

I act totally differently here than I do on other message boards, and I wouldn't be surprised if others did as well.  However I AM mad, so...

 
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4.  Marc and all other moderators will agree with me on this: It's not worth getting all fussy and politically correct over.  Don't let your panties get too bunched up and we'll all be fine.

Well, I am wasting time I could be spending looking at naked Leela pictures...

aslate

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« Reply #12 on: 10-06-2003 19:04 »

I was 13 when i joined PEEL, and i found the threads thoroughly amusing. I didn't find them offensive, but if i did then i'd just avoid them.

We have such a small minority of PEELers that are under 12 i don't see why we should change our ways to suit them. It's not like they are being forced to read anything here and it's their choice to enter the masturbation threads (Ok, the other was slightly off-topic in the love thread, but isn't that to be a bit expected?).

If you really want to be politically correct, you can put a disclaimer in the TOCs about certain threads being suitable for over 18s only, but no-one ever cares about them anyway.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #13 on: 10-06-2003 20:43 »

It's the INTERNET. Everyone knows that there's nothing on the INTERNET that isn't thoroughly twisted in some way.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #14 on: 10-06-2003 20:45 »

That's not true!  The prime purpose of the Internet is to provide a free exchange of ideas!

*resumes drooling over naked Leela pictures*
Ben

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« Reply #15 on: 10-06-2003 22:58 »
« Last Edit on: 10-09-2003 00:00 »

Of course all the people under 18 are going to think it's a bad idea...

Like winna pointed out (even though he's not a member), we do still have the R-rated forum, even if hardly anyone uses it anymore.

Censorship never works.
mikey

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« Reply #16 on: 10-07-2003 02:32 »
« Last Edit on: 10-07-2003 02:32 »

And plus whos to stop someone re-registering as someone over the age of eighteeen?
winna

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« Reply #17 on: 10-07-2003 03:04 »

 
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Originally posted by Ben:
Of course all the people under 18 are going to think it's a bad idea...

Like winna pointed out (even though he's not a member), we do still have the R-rated forum, even if hardly anyone uses it anymore.

Censorship always works.

Membership doesn't mean you can't get in the backdoor  wink  tongue

There's always more than one way to skin a cat, and there's also more than one way to sneak into the R forum   no no   hmpf

To those whom I have loved...
LaVaLaDy

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« Reply #18 on: 10-08-2003 19:03 »

How come I cant go to the r-rated forum?
Luis

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« Reply #19 on: 10-08-2003 19:09 »
« Last Edit on: 10-09-2003 00:00 »

I only have to say one thing about "Censorship" and "adecuacy"...

When have they EVER worked? i challenge anyone to tell me when has censorship produced good results, or even results for that matter. Plus, this is a message board, if I (17) can sneak into a porn site, so can many other underage people. Plus most (if not all) teenagers know perfectly well (and frequently use) words like fuck, cunt and stuff like that (my family taught me those when i was 5, in spanish of curse).

I do have another suggestion, shouldn't threads that got closed because of spamming, already existing or being generally useless be deleted? i don't know if it'd help with bandwith or cost stuff, but it'd surely help lower the page count on many forums.
Squeezit

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« Reply #20 on: 10-10-2003 01:51 »

Yeah--there's no point in the R rated forum if 20 year olds like me can't get in.  tongue

However--I'm really not interested in a board that has posts of a bunch of porn and nudity anyway. That seems like something people UNDER 18 would be more interested in.

Kids suck. People should quit catering to them and maybe they'll go dig some holes outside or something. Make some mud pies, Ninos, we want to get our freak on

yeehoo
SuperFry

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« Reply #21 on: 10-10-2003 07:24 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
Recently we've had a lot of younger people (SuperFry being the youngest) joining PEEL.  Meanwhile the 20s and 30s PEELers are still talking about sex and swapping dirty jokes.  The ultimate was all that cunt stuff in the love thread last night.  If SuperFry's parents somehow saw it, they'd have grounds for getting PEEL shut down.

Maybe we ought to think about having an over 18s only board to talk about this kind of stuff.

In addition, we need more moderators.  I'm not taking a shot at any current mods here, but there was a six hour period last night where I hardly saw any of you online.  My candidates would be Teral, Melll and aslate.

The only reason you think I am a problem here is because I tend to dig into s ex-related stuff so I will try to stop doing that and you guys will probobaly not worry like this.

If my parents saw some of the stuff on PEEL they just wouldn't let me get on until I was 11 which is in about 1 month.
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #22 on: 10-10-2003 07:29 »

Because when you are 11 you take a huge step up of course... even though most of the stuff you are talking about is definatly 18+.
Luis

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« Reply #23 on: 10-10-2003 20:11 »
« Last Edit on: 10-10-2003 20:11 »

Whatever, like there isn't enough porn and violence on the net (and on real life) to get some crazy kid sick enough to do any kind of atrocity (assuming that the media has that impact and it's not just a scapegoat). Anyways, what's the big fuss about porn? is sex worse than violence? because i don't see anyone here suggesting  a ban on violent/gory pics as well (although i haven't seen many do far).
sheep555

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« Reply #24 on: 10-11-2003 13:54 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
The ultimate was all that cunt stuff in the love thread last night.  If SuperFry's parents somehow saw it, they'd have grounds for getting PEEL shut down.

...on what grounds? You don't shut down a porn site just because an eleven year old could get on it...
Margarita

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« Reply #25 on: 10-11-2003 15:21 »

 
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Originally posted by sheep555:
 ...on what grounds? You don't shut down a porn site just because an eleven year old could get on it...

there's a difference... porn site asks/tells you "are you 18 years old?" or "you can't enter if you're not 18"  - it has a warning, so if kid goes there - it's not their(webmasters') problem. kid is the one who breaks a law.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #26 on: 10-11-2003 15:23 »

Just ban the little freak.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #27 on: 10-11-2003 17:43 »

 
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Originally posted by sheep555:
 ...on what grounds? You don't shut down a porn site just because an eleven year old could get on it...

As margie's pointed out, this isn't a porn site.  I could explain me reasoning further, but I think I'm talking to a collection of brick walls here.
Luis

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« Reply #28 on: 10-11-2003 18:09 »

Back on track, what would a special forum solve? i think marc said specifically : "If it needs a disclaimer, it doesn't go on peel". So that pretty much kills the idea
aslate

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« Reply #29 on: 10-11-2003 19:13 »

Are you talking about the R-Rated forum there? Since it's invite-only it doesn't matter.

Also, if you really want to be annoying and actually care about the fact that some fanatical mother may actually attempt to try and shut down PEEL then just add a very small disclaimer of:
"You should be over 18 (or 21) to view PEEL"
or
"PEELified.com is not responsible for any of the material posted"
PCC Fred

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« Reply #30 on: 10-11-2003 19:24 »

Okay, the over 18s board was a bad idea.

But I stand by my point about reshuffling the mods so there's a better balance across the time zones.
aslate

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« Reply #31 on: 10-11-2003 19:49 »

I agree with that PCC. Also, Drippy_Taco hasn't been around much recently, what's happened?
Luis

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« Reply #32 on: 10-11-2003 20:39 »

I agree, we need more mods. Sometimes, the board and chat get out of control and there's no mods available. Plus, i think the ones that are available are overwhelmed and too busy.
SuperFry

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« Reply #33 on: 10-11-2003 22:08 »

Well if you think you're s ex talk is bad I know a beyblade place that has a fanfic with the characters having s ex.
Beamer

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« Reply #34 on: 10-12-2003 00:31 »

Since when did "SEX" have a space bar in it?
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #35 on: 10-12-2003 00:39 »

Since SuperFry's computer had a parental control that won't let him type sex and girl and damn and fuck and all the other nice words most people can use freely.
leelaholic

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« Reply #36 on: 10-12-2003 01:01 »

and "shit", don't forget "shit"
Beamer

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« Reply #37 on: 10-12-2003 02:45 »

Girl is a swear word?

Hmmmm, maybe we should scratch this idea of PEEL censorship and just simply ban SuperFry? Anybody with me?  wink
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #38 on: 10-12-2003 02:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Beamer:
Hmmmm, maybe we should scratch this idea of PEEL censorship and just simply ban SuperFry? Anybody with me?   wink

I have been before, and will again stand up for that.

Unfortunately, he'd just come back with another username.
Beamer

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« Reply #39 on: 10-12-2003 03:21 »

Well, I did say that jokingly (hence the winking smiley).

Still - if anyone's willing to do it, I'll back them up. I may believe in freedom of speech, but I also believe in mob rule!  tongue
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