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Author Topic: A whole new PEEL?  (Read 1186 times)
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PEE Poll: A whole new PEEL?
yes, new board system   -5 (25%)
no, keep this one   -15 (75%)
Total Voters: 20

bart182

Professor
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« on: 06-15-2003 21:10 »

It seems like PEEL is running into a lot of problems lately, and it seems like there's always a problem involing this extremely out-dated UBB system.

it uses resources and bandwidth, many things dont work right, it's search feature is out dated and doesnt work sometimes (and now we can't edit posts, and we had problems with 'last post by')

I say we start using a new system, that has added features with less bandwidth usage.

We could subscribe to threads, ignore users, and have a lot more options for moderators (such as temp ban with timers)

With any new system, I'm sure marc could make a style that easily resembles the way PEEL looks now.  It might look a little different, but we'd get used to it.


I asked marc about this already, and he said even if he did want to change board systems, he couldn't, because the host doesnt have mysql in the package he has, and it would cost more to have it enabled... though, I can't image it's that much more, and people on peel are already paying the bills of the board anyway (mostly).


Anyway, I just figured I'd see what you all think.

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Anarchist

Professor
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« Reply #1 on: 06-15-2003 21:32 »

If mArc said it can't happen, it can't happen. Why start a thread about it if you already know the answer? Yeah, this UBB setup IS extremely outdated, but it's better than nothing.
bart182

Professor
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« Reply #2 on: 06-15-2003 21:50 »

I don't know why I made the thread... I just figured we could discuss it to see what happens.
Kipper

Bending Unit
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« Reply #3 on: 06-15-2003 22:03 »

well of course i would to have a new board system i bet everyone does but you dont always get what you want in life.....life sucks!!:P

homerjaysimpson

Space Pope
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« Reply #4 on: 06-15-2003 22:04 »

I think it would be nice to have a new system but I'm used to this one.
Kryten

Space Pope
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« Reply #5 on: 06-16-2003 00:06 »

Does anyone REALLY want to reregister?
Australian Guy

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #6 on: 06-16-2003 01:35 »

Certainly not, this board is inefficent. But no point in changing now
Spice Weasel

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #7 on: 06-16-2003 01:55 »

How much bandwidth can a board like this really use?  It's not eBay for cryinoutloud.  Sounds like the costs are rising and the service is dwindling.  Maybe time to look into an
alternative.
[-mArc-]

Administrator
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #8 on: 06-16-2003 02:07 »

It has nothing to do with bandwidth. It's CPU and I/O load. I'll have to see about what to do, but I'm not going to change board software just for the heck of it. mySQL would be a hell of a lot more expensive with this hoster and moving hosts would mean a good while of downtime.

Regarding features: I don't want an ignore feature. Neither a member rating one nor many of the other things that were added to boards in the last few years. The basic slick idea of what a message board should do was completed a long time ago and since people started adding new features just to have more than the next one. I'm not going there.

The current situation with some errors here and there is due to me tweaking things. I'll get them out as I go along, but at the moment, the whole CPU-load thing (which is partly due to us being more active than ever) has priority as it's "fix or no more".
Australian Guy

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #9 on: 06-16-2003 02:09 »

Wellit its all good then why are you tweaking?  wink
Gocad

Space Pope
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« Reply #10 on: 06-16-2003 03:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
Does anyone REALLY want to reregister?

I doubt that some Posters would like that.
I like PEEL the way it is now, there is no need to change it.

"Ahh, to be young again, and a Poppler..."
aslate

Space Pope
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« Reply #11 on: 06-16-2003 04:28 »

 
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Originally posted by [-mArc-]:
(which is partly due to us being more active than ever)

What if you banned a few people like Hypnotoad/Satan  wink?

But also, anyone know why so many (crap) n00bs have signed up recently?
Grim

Professor
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« Reply #12 on: 06-16-2003 04:42 »

you can probably blame that on Cartoon Network
Melllvar

DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #13 on: 06-16-2003 05:21 »

I'm not one of these people who thinks that they always know better, so I'll go along with whatever Marc thinks, as he knows best, it's his board.

I would certainly re-register if that was called for, but at the moment, it isn't.
Australian Guy

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #14 on: 06-16-2003 06:01 »

Is it holidays in america or something?
Tweek

UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #15 on: 06-16-2003 06:21 »

I think it is best to keep this board, there are few problems with it, sure it is occasionally slow but not very often.

If the board got replaced I'd join PEEL Mk2, but I can see people that only post once or twice a week, or less, not bothering.
mikey

Urban Legend
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« Reply #16 on: 06-16-2003 06:25 »

Yer I think disliking noobs comes with starship captainism. God, some threads that I've grown to love have just become noob fests.. I Know i'm still a noob but its just getting to me. Well at least the last post feature is back   big grin   
Otis P Jivefunk

DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #17 on: 06-16-2003 06:40 »

Call me nostalgic, but I like it the way it is. Sure it has it's problams, but nothings perfect. Unless things get really bad, I'd rather keep it how it is.

[Zapp]Call me back when it's a catastrophe[/Zapp]
Australian Guy

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #18 on: 06-16-2003 07:01 »

I think we should keep it as a reminder of Antique Programming. How many other majorly active boards would there be with this oldskool Code?
Zed 85

Space Pope
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« Reply #19 on: 06-16-2003 12:12 »

I get by okay on this system. As long as it doesn't collapse then I'm fine. Especially if getting a new one is costly, time consuming, awkward and above all, largely unneccassary, then I see no reason in changing just now.  smile
Anarchist

Professor
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« Reply #20 on: 06-16-2003 12:44 »

I'm not certain on this, so correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this ancient CGI-based system suck a hell of a lot more power out of the server than it should? As far as I know, PHP-based systems are significantly more efficient. It would be cost-effective.
Also, the Internet is littered with cheap [PHP/MySQL-offering] webhosts. But yeah, moving = downtime + taking more time out of the admin's life than it should. So I don't blame you for sticking with this rusty piece of antiquated code. It does work, after all.
Holly J. Fry

PISS-Leader
Starship Captain
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« Reply #21 on: 06-16-2003 13:57 »

I like this PEEL. It doesn't have problems except when members abuse it and overload it, so if we behave ourselves it should be OK. Anyway, Marc does all the shitwork of maintaining this place, so I'm happy to go along with what he suggests.
Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #22 on: 06-16-2003 15:02 »
« Last Edit on: 06-16-2003 15:02 »

PEEL can be hard to wrestle occasionally, but most of the time it runs smoothly (like now). I'm for staying with this system, it feels "cosy".

You know, like a pair of old, wornout shoes. Sure, the string is broken and there's a tiny hole in the front, but they're comfortable and you wouldn't trade them for the world.

Can the old threads even be converted to the new system? I would hate to lose those threads in General Discussion, HR, Fanart, etc. Those threads are full of information, and are part of Futurama history.

Anyway, whatever mArc decides I'll back.
Allen

Professor
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« Reply #23 on: 06-16-2003 17:22 »

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it starts spitting fire and booting users out, then it's time to change. But it's fine for now.
Australian Guy

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #24 on: 06-30-2003 08:30 »

Whats this about Ubbx?
Loki

Professor
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« Reply #25 on: 06-30-2003 09:19 »

I vote for changes.
Sil

Professor
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« Reply #26 on: 06-30-2003 09:33 »

I think it's fine. I've never had a problem with it, but I'm the world's worst with computers, so I probably wouldn't know a problem if it came up and kicked me in the ass.
Australian Guy

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #27 on: 06-30-2003 09:44 »

Well the main problem is the pisspoor search function
Sil

Professor
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« Reply #28 on: 06-30-2003 10:07 »

Yeah that's true.  But also, the titles of the threads don't always have anything to do with the body of the thread, so it doesn't come up in the search. For eg, it might be about...Nibbler's involvement in bringing Fry to the Future, but it might be named "bite my shiny metal ass" or something.
Lee Roberts

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #29 on: 06-30-2003 16:41 »

Please No. Keep this one. The newbies will have trouble the NEWBIES! No, I like this idea but I'm not sure. I mean, I'm use to the controls here etc and I think that's why we should not move.

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Killerfox

Professor
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« Reply #30 on: 06-30-2003 20:40 »

i really think its okay the way it is now, i cant see the need for changes, besides all the treads already in existance..... no, its okay to leave it the way it is
Jolly Mon

Bending Unit
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« Reply #31 on: 06-30-2003 23:17 »

I like PEEL this way.
ShineFusion

Professor
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« Reply #32 on: 07-02-2003 03:30 »
« Last Edit on: 07-02-2003 03:30 »

It's fine the way it is.
"Unexpected things make people feel stupid"
Australian Guy

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #33 on: 07-02-2003 06:46 »

Still WTH is XUBB. Infopop seemed to be saying it was better, perhaps we could change to that.
Anarchist

Professor
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« Reply #34 on: 07-02-2003 10:06 »

 
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Originally posted by Australian Guy:
Still WTH is XUBB. Infopop seemed to be saying it was better, perhaps we could change to that.
I'm sure it is better, but that's not saying much. Why go with an expensive board like UBB, though? There are excellent free boards out there. (Yes, I AM a phpBB advocate.)
*sigh*... Won't happen, though. The one thing I hate the MOST about people is that they're afraid of change.
Australian Guy

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #35 on: 07-02-2003 10:09 »

NAh, the nice blue colour is an important part of peel, it sets it apart from other boards.
Anarchist

Professor
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« Reply #36 on: 07-02-2003 11:21 »

Um... you are aware of hundreds of various themes being available, right? Including some pretty blue ones, I'm sure.
Also, another thing I've been meaning to mention - a move wouldn't necesserily mean we lose all the posts and accounts, and start from scratch. There are tools available to convert these things into a different board's format.
Australian Guy

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #37 on: 07-02-2003 11:52 »

No i am most certainly not. I know nothing of anything .When you say Php i am asuming you are referring to the standard phpbb. Im not really impressed by that particular search function either.

I want the message to be displayed along with the post. That way you dont have to search through all the pages to find it.
Anarchist

Professor
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« Reply #38 on: 07-02-2003 17:12 »

phpBB is very moddable. Possibly the most moddable (and the most modded) board around, since it's free and it's very well coded. Just check out www.phpbbhacks.com  . If you want a particular feature, chances are, someone already made it available. That's basicly why I love it.
zoidyzoid

Professor
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« Reply #39 on: 07-03-2003 01:42 »

Leave PEEL how it is.
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