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Nixorbo

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« Reply #80 on: 06-24-2002 01:00 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
 Because you know how to moderate.  Another mod turned up during all that Sarge business a couple of nights ago, but instead of bringing the argument to a halt, the mod left a message that inflamed the situation further, before simply disappearing.

I was gone for two days.  In New York.  With no internet access.  Since when do I have to announce my plans?
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« Reply #81 on: 06-24-2002 01:41 »

That would be my pal Velour. She knew just how "serious" the situation was, posted a laff & a hello, & left. Made me laugh.

Nixorbo, where are your papers? Where are you going? Tell me everything!
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« Reply #82 on: 06-24-2002 01:43 »

 
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Originally posted by Ben:
IT WASN'T AN ARGUMENT.

.........I could be arguing on my own time.

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« Reply #83 on: 06-24-2002 01:51 »
« Last Edit on: 06-24-2002 01:51 »

Let me rephrase that. It shouldn't have been an argument, but it was turned into one by people taking things too seriously. Why should VF pander to the lowest common denominator just because she was smart enough to see that it was a joke?
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« Reply #84 on: 06-24-2002 02:10 »

She just popped by to see what was happnin'.
VelourFog

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« Reply #85 on: 06-24-2002 09:24 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
 Because you know how to moderate.  Another mod turned up during all that Sarge business a couple of nights ago, but instead of bringing the argument to a halt, the mod left a message that inflamed the situation further, before simply disappearing.


Hi. two things
if you want to talk about me, you can do it by name.
if you want to take over for me, be my guest
Kryten

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« Reply #86 on: 06-24-2002 10:05 »

Yeah, since when did *I* know how to moderate?
Drippy_taco

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« Reply #87 on: 06-24-2002 10:09 »

Yes because we all know Moderators are 100% liable for other people's stupidity and disconcern.

We aren't peacemakers, we just keep the place clean.
Ben

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« Reply #88 on: 06-24-2002 10:14 »

Yes. Personally, I've always seen them more as janitors than as diplomats...  ;)
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« Reply #89 on: 06-24-2002 10:23 »

Scruffy:  "Ooh, marmalade!"
PCC Fred

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« Reply #90 on: 06-24-2002 12:20 »

 
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Originally posted by VelourFog:
 Hi. two things
if you want to talk about me, you can do it by name.
if you want to take over for me, be my guest

Yeah, sorry about that, it was out of line.  (Perhaps "I'm sorry" could be my custom rank).

I'm a bitter twisted person, universally disliked by evryone on PEEL.  I'm better suited than anyone to be a mod.
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« Reply #91 on: 06-24-2002 12:28 »

 
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Originally posted by Ben:
Yes. Personally, I've always seen them more as janitors than as diplomats...

Only diplomats on the Sam Vimes level, I guess.
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« Reply #92 on: 06-24-2002 15:23 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
 Yeah, sorry about that, it was out of line.  (Perhaps "I'm sorry" could be my custom rank).

I'm a bitter twisted person, universally disliked by evryone on PEEL.  I'm better suited than anyone to be a mod.


i dont dislike you. but i both rue and lament you  ;)  :D
VelourFog

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« Reply #93 on: 06-24-2002 16:08 »
« Last Edit on: 06-24-2002 16:08 »

Kryten does a great job as a mod. We all love him. He's probably the least controversial mod (well maybe Paul is).

The thing about being a moderator is that it's a volunteer job.  We don't get paid and furthermore most of us have other things going on in our lives.  Heck Marc even PAYS for peel and he still gets bitched at sometimes. I personally have class all day till five (even though it's the summer here) and I work.  Some moderators even have personal lives, or friends.  Sometimes we like to sleep.

I'm not trying to sound bitchy, but sometimes people need to realize that we all have other things to do than sit on PEEL 24/7.  So if a thread doesn't get taken care of right away, it might be for one of the above reasons. Or it could just be that we thought it was a funny joke and left it open anyway.

ps- PCC fred, I always thought you were a pretty nice guy. I'm sure you still are, you just maybe aren't as "in the loop" yet and mis-read our wacky personalities. everyone was new once, thats why the same old fights happen all the time.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #94 on: 06-24-2002 17:51 »

VF, I'm really sorry.  The stuff between me and Sarge, and me and Ben, was pretty much 50/50, but for me to point the finger at you was wrong.  I feel absolutely ashamed of myself, and I'm very, very sorry.
VelourFog

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« Reply #95 on: 06-24-2002 19:24 »

it's cool. I'm not really upset. you should only feel "sorry" not "very very sorry"
PCC Fred

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« Reply #96 on: 06-24-2002 19:30 »

Thanks, VF.
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« Reply #97 on: 06-24-2002 19:38 »

This discussion seems to be progressing nicely without my input. Please read the following with the following disclaimer in mind.

"I do not intend to inflame the situation or cause offence to anybody in what I'm about to say, so please don't misinterpret it as such.  :)"

You guys may see it as a joke, but it affected me personally. I will admit that I reacted a bit harshly. I can appreciate that Sarge probably doesn't understand the true extent of our relationship, and so didn't realise that what he said caused me considerable mental anguish.

Therefore, may I propose a truce? Naturally that includes an apology for what I said to you, which in hindsight, I handled very badly.

Incidentally, I recall the post you mention too. I hope you didn't misinterpret me.  http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/showpage.cgi?Forum=2&Thread=001057&Page=2

Please note the smiley. Also note "The man has good taste" - I intended that to mean that nobody could really blame you, since let's face it, she's gorgeous.  :love:  I'm not a jealous nutcase. I just get a bit hot under the collar, and I'm sure you (and everybody else) can understand why. I assure you I'm not mentally unstable!  ;)

They say the best friendships start with a stinking argument, after all.  :)

As for the moderator argument, I'm forced to agree with PCCFred's earlier comments to a DEGREE. I really believe that a moderator should have put a stop to the situation - and most certainly not posted something inflammatory. No offence to you VelourFog - I can appreciate that you want to avoid using heavy handed tactics wherever possible (it makes you unpopular - I know - I've been a mod elsewhere  ;)) But could it be, without me being too critical, that it would have been a good idea to try and cool things down, rather than insert a joke which could be misunderstood in that context as inflammatory?

I hate all this. Let's all be buddies.

Even Morton.   :laff:

Danny
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« Reply #98 on: 06-24-2002 19:46 »

/me is listening to all-4-one - i swear

This tune just fits SO well with the atmosphere that PEEL has finally recided into concerning this issue.
Im glad we can put this crap behind us and joke like nothings happened again  :)
(incidentally, i would like be a bit pre-emptive and say that the new page on my little PEEL section on my site is only for humorous purposes, and i really hope i wont get flamed for it. I talked at length with Drippy_taco about it and he said it should be ok now, so i really hope it is  ;))
Nixorbo

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« Reply #99 on: 06-24-2002 22:06 »

Wait, you have a site with a PEEL section?
VelourFog

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« Reply #100 on: 06-24-2002 22:22 »
« Last Edit on: 06-24-2002 22:22 »

 
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Originally posted by danny-dude:
I really believe that a moderator should have put a stop to the situation - and most certainly not posted something inflammatory. No offence to you VelourFog - I can appreciate that you want to avoid using heavy handed tactics wherever possible (it makes you unpopular - I know - I've been a mod elsewhere    ;)) But could it be, without me being too critical, that it would have been a good idea to try and cool things down, rather than insert a joke which could be misunderstood in that context as inflammatory?

Danny,
Since you worry so hard about everyone behaving properly, I must wonder if at any point you used the "alert" button under the offending post(s)?
If you did then please stop reading. If you didn't then let me just say that it's obvious that not everyone shares the exact same view of things as you do. If I didn't close a thread or do something about it, it was not because I'm afraid I'd be less popular. In order to alert us that you really did find offense with a post you should use the alert button.

Re: my "joke which could be misunderstood in that context as inflammatory"
I came to terms with the fact that basically everyone will misunderstand my humor. I'm not going to start dumbing it down now.

now all the cursing and "finger" smiles you post could be taken badly as well...
Nixorbo

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« Reply #101 on: 06-24-2002 22:25 »

Wait, we do things to be popular?  CRAP!  I KNEW I was doing something wrong!
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« Reply #102 on: 06-24-2002 22:55 »

 
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Originally posted by VelourFog:

Re: my "joke which could be misunderstood in that context as inflammatory"
I came to terms with the fact that basically everyone will misunderstand my humor. I'm not going to start dumbing it down now.

I liked it.  :p

"I swear" = gayest song ever!!
Drippy_taco

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« Reply #103 on: 06-25-2002 01:11 »

I've fallen and I can't get up!  *presses his alert button repeatedly*
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« Reply #104 on: 06-25-2002 06:15 »

*Rushes to Drippy's aid with a stretcher*

I'll help, just give me the bottle....
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« Reply #105 on: 06-25-2002 12:47 »

Re the alert button, I'm afraid to say I wasn't aware it existed until now! Me stupid...

Velour, you're getting defensive... I'm not complaining about your humour, I'm just saying that perhaps it was poorly judged. I'm not insulting you. Surely you can tell the difference.

Having already apologised for my outburst, I really must ask why you see fit to continue complaining about my OCCASIONAL cursing (everybody does it) and my "finger" smilies. You say it like I'm the only person who uses it. Also, I'd like to think I was quite clear in indicating whether or not I intend to be taken seriously. I dislike situations like this, and I'm painfully aware of how easy it is to be misunderstood. That's why I always try to make sure my posts are "signposted" in such a way as to not cause offence - ie, by my disclaimer on my last post - intended to show you that I hold no ill will. But you decided to continue the argument. Defend your point of view by all means - we all do that, but surely you're big enough to accept that MAYBE your joke was out of place, just as I am big enough to accept that I was out of line. Fair comment?

Take it easy people!  :D

Danny
Drippy_taco

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« Reply #106 on: 06-25-2002 12:59 »

The man is well-spoken, and clearly apologizing.  Now, lets all get along and go eat some cake...
Aleel

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« Reply #107 on: 06-25-2002 13:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Drippy_taco:
The man is well-spoken, and clearly apologizing.  Now, lets all get along and go eat some cake...

Fine idea! Which cake do you like best?   ;)
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #108 on: 06-25-2002 13:00 »

Hmm.

I don't really know what 's been going on here, so I 'll keep out of it.

About the "finger" smiley: I don't like it, it 's too aggressive, and it 's also the ugliest smiley I 've seen in my life.  I'd rather use swearwords than that smiley. Nice, polite, civilised swearwords.
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« Reply #109 on: 06-25-2002 13:00 »

Mmmmmmmmmm cake!
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #110 on: 06-25-2002 13:01 »

Hmm, 4 posts in less than 2 minutes...

Chocolate cake please.   Apple will do too.
Aleel

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« Reply #111 on: 06-25-2002 13:02 »

 
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Originally posted by ZombieJesus:
Hmm.

I don't really know what 's been going on here, so I 'll keep out of it.

About the "finger" smiley: I don't like it, it 's too aggressive, and it 's also the ugliest smiley I 've seen in my life.  I'd rather use swearwords than that smiley. Nice, polite, civilised swearwords.

What's civilised about swearwords?  :D
Drippy_taco

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« Reply #112 on: 06-25-2002 13:13 »

Strawberry Shortcake cake, of course.
static

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« Reply #113 on: 06-25-2002 13:20 »

mmm, strawberry cake  :)
Aleel

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« Reply #114 on: 06-25-2002 13:33 »

strawberries are fine, but I like cherries better!
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« Reply #115 on: 06-25-2002 14:07 »
« Last Edit on: 06-25-2002 14:07 »

[Worf] With mint frosting [/Worf] Sorry, Trek in-joke
Kryten

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« Reply #116 on: 06-25-2002 14:25 »

Mmmm... cellular peptides...
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« Reply #117 on: 06-25-2002 14:52 »

Isn't it amazing how fast a thread can go TOTALLY off topic?  :laff:
Aleel

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« Reply #118 on: 06-25-2002 14:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
[Worf] With mint frosting [/Worf] Sorry, Trek in-joke

I love star trek, but I don't know much eps in English... what is it about?
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« Reply #119 on: 06-25-2002 15:08 »

 
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Mmmm... cellular peptides...

I certainly wouldn't mind a slice of Troi.


Aleel: It's from the TNG episode "Phantasms". Data experiences some weird dreams. In one of them the bridge crew of the Enterprise is in Ten-Forward, eating some cake. When Data takes a closer look at the cake it turns out it's counselor Troi they're eating. The crew call it a cellular peptide cake with, as Worf mentions, mint frosting (Deanna's blue uniform).
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