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DannyJC13

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« Reply #640 on: 08-13-2011 21:51 »

Yeah it is pretty annoying now. mad
Smarty

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« Reply #641 on: 08-19-2011 18:58 »

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the General Discussion title is spelled General Disscussion. There's only one s in "discussion." It's actually starting to bother me.
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« Reply #642 on: 08-19-2011 19:03 »

Yeah, read on the wiki: http://wiki.peelified.com/General_Disscussion

It will never be changed.
Svip

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« Reply #643 on: 08-19-2011 19:06 »
« Last Edit on: 08-19-2011 19:09 »

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the General Discussion title is spelled General Disscussion. There's only one s in "discussion." It's actually starting to bother me.

It will bother you forever!

What do you mean by a "white PEEL"? I've been wondering that for a while now.

The 'white PEEL' is obtained through the fact that the stylesheets was not loaded correctly.  Because stylesheets appear at the beginning of the document, it is the first (or among the first) external files requested by the browser, which on lesser connections can result in a timeout or denial (because the two connections were so close together), but images may still load because they are requested by <img /> tags rather than the stylesheet (at least on PEEL).
totalnerduk

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« Reply #644 on: 08-19-2011 19:08 »

What's really pissing me off in GD is SpaceGoldfish's repeated abuse of the term Uncanny Valley. Either she's never read TVtropes or Wikipedia or she's deliberately misusing the term. So far I can't think of a way to correct her whilst remaining on topic and not being percieved as starting a fight.

Yeah it is pretty annoying now. mad

You're pretty annoying too. I think you should be banned from the TV and GD forums, and everything you say should be auto-spoilered by the board software. And you should possibly be fucked by a rhino, just to teach you that your comments are spam, a spoiler is anything that people have not yet experienced by watching the episode in question, and not every little thought that crosses your mind deserves its own fucking thread in the goofs/weird scenes forum.
Svip

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« Reply #645 on: 08-19-2011 19:11 »
« Last Edit on: 08-19-2011 19:15 »

What's really pissing me off in GD is SpaceGoldfish's repeated abuse of the term Uncanny Valley. Either she's never read TVtropes or Wikipedia or she's deliberately misusing the term. So far I can't think of a way to correct her whilst remaining on topic and not being percieved as starting a fight.

You should start a fight, and I will back you up.  Now that you notified me of this, it is frustrating me as well.  Thanks for nothing!  I used to think SpaceGoldfish was cool, now I hate her.

Wait, gasp, this isn't the rant thread.  What have I doooooooone!?

Cue violin music
Nutmeg1729

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« Reply #646 on: 08-19-2011 19:30 »

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the General Discussion title is spelled General Disscussion. There's only one s in "discussion." It's actually starting to bother me.

You know, it got so that I don't even notice it anymore.

smile
futurefreak

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« Reply #647 on: 08-20-2011 00:07 »

Isn't the reasoning behind that on the homepage? confused
SpaceMaN

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« Reply #648 on: 08-20-2011 12:17 »

I always found it funny they had to point out that they know it's misspelled.
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« Reply #649 on: 08-20-2011 12:21 »

It is a long standing tradition.
Professor Zoidy

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« Reply #650 on: 08-27-2011 01:18 »

Is another long-standing tradition "PEE Poll"? I noticed this recently for all polls that have ended (and probably ones you can still vote on) that the L is missing. I don't recall seeing that until recently. Maybe I'm just daft and missed it. And I'll wager someone else has posted about this silly immature giggle enabler.
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« Reply #651 on: 08-27-2011 01:22 »

No, the L is very well not missing.

PEEL stands for Planet Express Employee Lounge.
PEEL Poll would make little sense since it isn't a poll for the Lounge.

So PEE Poll makes perfect sense, since it stands for Planet Express Employee Poll.


As can be seen on the wiki.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #652 on: 08-27-2011 02:33 »

Indeed. In fact, the ID cards are actually PEE ID Cards as well.

A lot of things on PEEL can have PEE slapped on the front of them.

Now there's an image for you.
Professor Zoidy

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« Reply #653 on: 08-27-2011 22:53 »

Goes to show how long I've been here and never noticed. God I'm senile. Or stupid. Or blind. Or a combination of those things.
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« Reply #654 on: 08-27-2011 23:17 »

I love how the "failed poll" picture is my Corrupt Despot attempt.



Classy.  laff

It wouldn't unlock, I tell you!
Bend-err

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« Reply #655 on: 08-27-2011 23:19 »

Well, it was the quickest I found, so I might as well took that.
Nibblonian Leader

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« Reply #656 on: 08-27-2011 23:24 »
« Last Edit on: 08-27-2011 23:26 »

Well, it was the quickest I found, so I might as well took that.

I might as well took that.

might as well took that.

might as well took that.

I might as well have taken that.



Zank you und good day.

SIEG SPELL!
Bend-err

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« Reply #657 on: 08-27-2011 23:29 »

Leave me alone, I am drinking cider and watching old Futurama, I am too lazy to check my spelling & grammar on PEEL right now.
SpaceMaN

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« Reply #658 on: 08-28-2011 18:00 »
« Last Edit on: 08-28-2011 18:01 »

For shame, booze.  That's noob talk.

which is why I never post when I'm drunk, because it takes me an hour to type it all out in the first place, an hour to proof-read, and by then I usually pass out and wake up the next day and it's  nonsensical bullshit anyway, so I don't post it.
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« Reply #659 on: 08-28-2011 18:01 »

We shall speak again once you are fluent in German, shall we? tongue
SpaceMaN

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« Reply #660 on: 08-28-2011 18:03 »

Um, we shall?

No offense was meant.  Besides, other languages are hard.  I don't understand them.
Bend-err

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« Reply #661 on: 08-28-2011 18:03 »

It was a joke, don't worry. I don't take offence from that.
x.Bianca.x

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« Reply #662 on: 09-16-2011 15:14 »

Complaint: The point of books having an account back was to not confuse people as to who was posting what, now they will just be confused further....
futurefreak

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« Reply #663 on: 10-21-2011 04:11 »

Again, not a complaint, but a suggestion. Is it possible to have an option set up to display our average character amounts per post? Is that even viable? I just thought it'd be a neat idea.
[-mArc-]

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« Reply #664 on: 10-21-2011 06:40 »

Sorry, don't think that is viable for performance reasons.
Svip

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« Reply #665 on: 10-21-2011 09:04 »

Unless you count the characters each time a post is saved (posted and edited), then store it in the database, then an average would be easy, performance-wise.  But you would still have to calculate all the previous thousands and thousands of posts that are not counted by its character count.

But the real question should be; would we really need such a feature?
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #666 on: 10-22-2011 05:16 »

I guess the aim would be to see how "productive" a poster is/how "well" someone posts. I wouldn't mind finding out my average words or characters per post, but it's not something I need to know.
Tachyon

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« Reply #667 on: 10-22-2011 06:53 »


Interesting,  but quantity ≠ quality.

i_c_weiner

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« Reply #668 on: 10-22-2011 17:19 »

Actually, I would disagree with that for characters for post. Many have had this debate before, so here's a brief rundown of this position:
When you have more characters per post it usually means you have long, thought out, and interesting posts that go through a progression of thought and reach a good conclusion. With shorter posts, it takes a master to make them quality posts. It is probably the hardest thing for a PEELer to do: making that fantastic one-liner retort. If they can master that, then they are truly a quality poster. If they can't, then they are truly not quality.

But, once again, it's not something that I would need to know and thus is a feature that's not worth the effort to code.
winna

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« Reply #669 on: 10-23-2011 06:13 »

It's not the effort to code it that is the problem.  It's the worthwhile expenditure of allowing that code to run that is the problem.  Secondly, I argue with your sentiment that word count may possibly coincide with one's ability to write and/or one's ability as to be perceived willingly by the masses as receiveable.  Even with great artists, the ability to measure such things is skewed.  The fact of the matter is that such a feature applied to such a massive quantity of data (all the posts of everyone ever for well over a decade) is not worth the ability of this messageboard to facilitate its main goal. 

If one should ever disagree with my proposition, they could in many ways set about the task of catalogueing their entire post history, counting the words they used with spacing as a delimiter, and determine the average word count for themselves.  with what information should be revealed by such endeavors?  Numbers of little significance.  But numbers should we all be so worthwhile to understand.
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« Reply #670 on: 10-24-2011 16:42 »

Deleted stuff. Please stop spamming this thread; it's one of the few I try to follow despite of the level of non-PEEL stuff I have to keep up with.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #671 on: 10-25-2011 03:17 »

From the relationship thread that winna opened just so he could use a "funny" title:

Make it on topic as per mArcs terrorist demands benevolent command!

Suggestion: New threads opened solely so that the person doing so can put in the title, or without a cromulent and on-topic first post should be deleted. No matter how many people accept it as a cromulent thread and post in it. Plus, the 20-page limit could probably be upped to 30 without problems now that we have PEEL 2.x - it's not like the board software's having problems handling stuff, is it?
winna

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« Reply #672 on: 10-25-2011 04:13 »

I'm not a big fan of necessarily making hard set rules about such matters.  You're right about what I was doing, and if the moderator that happened upon the thread first had closed it for that reason, I'd have been fine with that.  It didn't help that Beanoz came in to post utter nonsense on top of mine, but that's how threads go in general.  The first few posts can be the determining factor in whether the thread is received well and not completely locked down within its first few moments of infancy.

The problem I see with proposing hard set rules like you described is that they could just as easily be circumvented.  I could have just as easily told several lies to make that thread, for example, and it would have seemed a reasonable thread.  I'm not so sure that there's a solid reason for that type of thread anyways, and thus I'm arguing that things are better in a collective subjective perspective than the hard, fast rules you're suggesting.  [-mArc-] did a good job of setting the precedence there, so the moderators have a good idea on judging whether they can follow suit in that manner.  I also trust the moderators to large extents to use their judgements in a reasonable case-by-case manner.  Faze decided, in your example, to mention that the thread wasn't up to par, and the course of the thread steered itself in the correct direction.  As I said, I'd have been fine if it got closed or deleted.  

Arguably my behavior was less than noble in my pursuit of that manner, but a small infraction like that in large spans of time seems hardly a serious concern to consider; it would be wholly different if I, or anyone else, was doing it on a regular basis.  In which case, I would probably advise that somebody talk to a moderator about specifically curbing that individual's behavior.

As another tangent, mArc did a good job cleaning up the garbage in this particular thread.  I was actually really upset that it got off tangent so quickly because I'm aware of this thread's importance to PEEL.  I knew that the most I could do was say something in response to the other people, but that would just increase their liklihood to respond, so I decided to wait until someone else could clean it up.

As for your 30-page limit suggestion, I think it would be easy enough to set about doing as far as PEEL's software is concerned; in fact, I don't think there's a hard limit written for the maximum number of pages a thread can contain (although I don't know that to be true).  So, it's one of those things (like racing to name threads) that's just a bit of PEEL tradition, and I personally prefer those traditions to some extent.  To make another points, I think the 20 page limit makes PEEL look rather clean compared to other message boards, gives us a little variation from time to time, and gives the moderators something to do that they can enjoy and stretch their moderation muscles.

All of this is of course merely my opinion; my opinion certainly isn't law or even a generally accepted guideline, but I figured it would be reasonable and worthwhile to provide a counter perspective to the new ones you're suggesting.
Gopher

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« Reply #673 on: 10-25-2011 04:17 »

one tricky bit with 30-page threads is that if it is retroactive, it breaks gibberish of 50% of existing totp's, and making it not retroactive would be prohibitively difficult.
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« Reply #674 on: 10-25-2011 04:31 »

I say we stick to 20 pages and cut 50% of the non-sense posts. Everyone wins.
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« Reply #675 on: 10-25-2011 04:36 »

one tricky bit with 30-page threads is that if it is retroactive, it breaks gibberish of 50% of existing totp's, and making it not retroactive would be prohibitively difficult.

What the hell? Seriously, all it would mean doing is not closing threads until P30 now. Which [-mArc-] has just nixed. So whilst I know [-mArc-] is listening, I'm going to direct him to this question which remains unanswered.
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« Reply #676 on: 10-28-2011 03:41 »

I really don't see the difference between thirty pages and twenty pages. The thread is going to close anyway, and twenty pages has typically been a good length for thread life. You start extending it to 30 then it will be 40, 50, 100...and PEEL likes variety.

One issue I always encounter is when I am looking for a particular thread or post. I have to keep increasing the page number by only ia few ncrements, as in Page 3, Page 6, etc. I can't just jump to Page 100 of 200+. This is probably only affecting me because I sometimes look for particular posts of a given day when I am writing, and this is after the search function doesn't query exactly what I need. It's not something big or anything, just thought I would bring it up.
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« Reply #677 on: 10-28-2011 05:01 »

If you want to, you can go to the page that has the n-th post by copying the thread link for the first page page and putting n-1 in place of the zero after the topic number. Say for post 97 in this thread you would turn

http://www.peelified.com/Futurama-Forum-10/Topic-10373-0-Actual_Complaints.html

into

http://www.peelified.com/Futurama-Forum-10/Topic-10373-96-Actual_Complaints.html
futurefreak

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« Reply #678 on: 10-29-2011 06:17 »

Makes sense, thanks. What about the pages in each forum? Like, General Disscussion has over 200 pages of threads. How would you jump to say, page 50 in one move as opposed to 15+?
winna

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« Reply #679 on: 10-29-2011 06:28 »

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