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PEE Poll: Which Episode Had Most Potential
That's Lobstertainment!   -6 (17.1%)
A Leela of Her Own   -2 (5.7%)
The Cryonic Woman   -13 (37.1%)
A Pharoah to Remember   -14 (40%)
Total Voters: 35

Syevedude530

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« on: 06-13-2004 14:23 »

Looking at the 4 lowest rated episodes of Futurama at CGEF, which do you guys think had the potential to be a classic?

"One small step for Fry"
Sal

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« Reply #1 on: 06-13-2004 14:35 »

4. because its the best episode on the list. I think A byclopse built for two turned out crap, but had lots of potential
victor2000
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« Reply #2 on: 06-13-2004 14:40 »

4, for the same reasons as Sal.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #3 on: 06-13-2004 14:48 »

'That's Lobstertainment!' for me, because I think it's the worst on the list; thus less of it's potential was actaully used, which means it had the most unused potential, so it had plenty more potentail it could've used...
Sal

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« Reply #4 on: 06-13-2004 14:55 »

I dont like it when people vote but dont post, GRRRR!  mad
Teral

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« Reply #5 on: 06-13-2004 15:34 »

Guess what I voted for.  tongue

But in all honesty it shouldn't be there in the first place. It's a good episode damnit!
Sm@ Cpt. Libido

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« Reply #6 on: 06-13-2004 15:44 »

The cryonic woman because I really liked it even if no-one else did! To me it was a classic!
Syevedude530

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« Reply #7 on: 06-13-2004 15:50 »

But the poll is which episode had the potential to be a classic.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #8 on: 06-13-2004 15:51 »
« Last Edit on: 06-13-2004 15:51 »

I think I'd say off the bat that "Pharoah" had the least potential. I can't think of a way they could've made that work, t'be honest.

Remember people, this isn't about which one of these episodes you thought was the best, but which one had the potential to be brilliant. For example, had "That's Lobstertainment"'s satire on Hollywood been more forward thinking and futuristic then it might've stood more of a fighting chance. Had "A Leela Of Her Own" kept the spirit of Blurnsball alive rather than killing it off for its own selfish gain and created some better 'immigrants', it might've deserved some popularity. Had "Cryonic Woman" not disappeared up its own arse, it might've been less infuriating.

 I'd say "That's Lobstertainment" had the most potential of that list, although all of them would need retweeking. However, in my opinion, the most missed potential in the entire series was I Dated A Robot.   hmpf
Syevedude530

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« Reply #9 on: 06-13-2004 15:53 »

I voted for Lobstertainment because (I know this applies to "Robot" but I liked that one) they wasted such a talented guest star in multiple Emmy-winner Hank Azaria.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #10 on: 06-13-2004 16:19 »

The reason I cited "I Dated A Robot" as missed potential is because I absolutely loved the whole idea of downloading celebrities into robots, but the actual plot for the episode just ended up being a bit poorly thought out. And Lucy Liu's head's argument for why Fry should erase the last robot held less water than a paper nappy.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #11 on: 06-13-2004 22:20 »

Cryonic Woman.  Everything before Michelle and not including Pauly Shore was gold.
Shaucker

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« Reply #12 on: 06-13-2004 23:29 »

I really consider ALOHO a good episode...yeah, the storyline could be better, but the characters are good, the animation is GREAT, and Katey Sagal's acting in the episode is some of her best.

Leela:You mean...I'll be the first woman ever to play major league blearnsball?
Guy: Yeah, but you're mostly there as a freak attraction.
Leela: I can't believe I'm the first woman ever to play major league blearnsball!
Guy: But like I said...
Leela: Yippee!
Beamer

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« Reply #13 on: 06-14-2004 00:08 »

The Cryonic Woman... the first act was hilarious, and even the second act had enough funny moments to make it a good episode... but the third act...  frown
mpbx3003

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« Reply #14 on: 06-14-2004 00:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Syevedude530:
I voted for Lobstertainment because (I know this applies to "Robot" but I liked that one) they wasted such a talented guest star in multiple Emmy-winner Hank Azaria.

I voted for lobstertainment, because they used Azaria, they didn't waste him, he made that voice, and wanted to be in a decapodian episode, so he was one reason it was a flop. If Zoid had been done by the person they thought was better,(mentioned in the comm.) it might have been funnier...
also, It should have used more Zoidberg/zoid moments together...

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Gratuitous Pulp Fiction...Yay!!!
Also, D&D is great...
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« Reply #15 on: 06-14-2004 00:37 »

I have to go with Cryonic Woman.  The other three's plots are just for cheap laughs, Zoidberg doing a movie, Leela joining the NNY mets and Bender a pharoah. 

Cryonic Woman had the potenial of going further due to the simply fact the Fry's ex Michelle.  I was always a little disappointed that Michelle didn't interact more with Fry's friends to consider them "freaks".  It would have been interesting to see Michelle return and have to deal with Leela in some way over the matter of Fry.
Ranadok

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« Reply #16 on: 06-14-2004 00:51 »

I think that of these, Cryonic Woman had the most potential. It could have been used as an excellent vehicle to take an in-depth look at the things that Fry left behind and the people he missed, and his thoughts on the way his life had changed. It really could have given Fry some of the depth that he was lacking in the first two seasons.  Instead we get a story with Pauly Shore and skateboarding jewish children. A real missed opportunity there.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #17 on: 06-14-2004 00:54 »

I agree with Ranadok.  Cryonic Woman could have very well been like LOTF or JB, if they had made many changes.
KAH

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« Reply #18 on: 06-14-2004 02:15 »
« Last Edit on: 06-14-2004 02:15 »

A Pharoah to Remember is one of my most frequently watched episodes. I love it. Great funeral scene. Great Bender stuff. I usually agree with the polls but not on this. Oh! but I vote #1
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #19 on: 06-14-2004 06:53 »
« Last Edit on: 06-14-2004 06:53 »

Despite the fact I don't loathe Cryonic Woman anywhere near as much as a lot of people do, it represented the most unrealised potential. Namely the whole Fry comparing his new life to his old one thing (which I feel would have been apt for a season finale... even though it wasn't aired as one). It's still full of plenty of comedy goodness to enjoy. Such as cryo-chamber shenanigins, Zoidberg (no particular scene, just... Zoidberg), Leela hitting Fry with a telephone, daring daylight robberies on elephant back, the Mongolian invasion etc, etc.
Gorky

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« Reply #20 on: 06-14-2004 07:39 »

"The Cryonic Woman", obviously. The first act was great, with the first 2 or 3 minutes being absolutely hilarious. I think that it all fell apart after Pauly Shore was introduced (and the idea that he ultimately plays a big role in the story), and Michelle coming back was pretty unfunny (of course, it wouldn't be called "The Cryonic Woman" without her). In fact, the only real comedy comes from the three main players: Fry, Leela, and Bender. And, of course, the ending of the episode (well, the whole third act, really) was atrocious. It's kind of sad when you think about it, because the writers could have gone in an entirely different direction (not sure exactly how, but if you cut out Michelle and Pauly Shore with some kind of amusing filler, or something called "plot", you have an okay episode).

Regarding the other choices: for the record, I actually liked "That's Lobstertainment!" (it's not great, but at least amusing), "A Leela of Her Own" (way underrated), and "A Pharoah to Remember" (again, underrated). They aren't the best of the series, or even season 3, but they are funny and much better than "The Cryonic Woman".
Y_L_B

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« Reply #21 on: 06-14-2004 09:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Beamer:
The Cryonic Woman... the first act was hilarious, and even the second act had enough funny moments to make it a good episode... but the third act...   frown

I agree.

Also, as others said, it could have been one of the episodes where Fry realizes what he left behind in 2000. Instead we get Pauly Shore and a Jewish gang of 10-year-olds? I pretty much lost it after Michelle came into the plot.

Zeep

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« Reply #22 on: 06-14-2004 11:08 »

i would also have to say cryonic woman. i thought it was actually a pretty good episode. but i guess it was a bit... 'toned down' from most good futurama eppisodes.
Prince

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« Reply #23 on: 06-14-2004 11:22 »

I think That's Lobstertainment! Because I think they really had an opportunity to develop Zoidberg into a bit more of not only a mainstream, but also deeper and stronger character, he's great dammit!!
Also as Syevedude530 said they wasted oh almighty Hank Azaria on such a mediocre episode!!!
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #24 on: 06-14-2004 11:31 »

I'm going with APTR because that Egyptian music rocks, the green sky makes for a nice atmosphere, it had some funny jokes, but the story just sucked. It was hardly noticeable.
tom123

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« Reply #25 on: 06-14-2004 11:44 »

I am going to have to say A Pharoh to Remember because I really thought that was a funny episode. I can't beileve it is rated badly on CGEF!
dimension_8

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« Reply #26 on: 06-14-2004 11:53 »

A pharoh to remember - the best episode on the list in my mind. Tom, you changed your avatar again, nooo I was getting used to oily Fry!
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« Reply #27 on: 06-14-2004 12:29 »

I think the writers of "Pharaoh" were having too much fun making Bender ridiculously cruel to keep the story focused on the main idea.  Osiris 4 did present a very cool setting, and it would have been a shame to have avoided such a cheap shot at Star Trek.  That being said, maybe it would have been better to split up the episode into "Bender Wants to Be Remembered" and "Bender is a Ridiculously Cruel Tyrant."  I'd say the potential was pretty high for, at least, the cruel tyrant episode.

As for "Cryonic," I liked the idea that Fry thought he was in the year 4000, but the vehicle to get him there was horrible.  Once again, it seemed like there were two different episodes compressed uncomfortably into one like a eight-seat limousine holding a ten-member bridal party.  Maybe if (as it has been already theorized) there had just been an episode where Michelle reminds Fry of the year 2000 and an episode where Fry thinks he's found himself in a post-futuristic future (neither of which containing Pauly Shore) they might have never been ranked so low.  I'm not entirely sure how much relevant plot material there would be for either of these new storylines, but I'm sure the missing parts could be filled in with humorous sub-plots.

Maybe I'll have more on the other two later.  Of all the episodes I've seen on my DVDs, "ALOHO" is the only one I've seen only once.
David A

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« Reply #28 on: 06-14-2004 14:28 »
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I agree with what's been said about "The Cryonic Woman".  Bringing Fry's ex-girlfriend to the future was a neat idea.  There's a lot that could have been done with that.  Michelle could even have become a recurring character in later episodes.

"A Pharaoh to Remember" already is a classic.  There's nothing about that episode that I don't like.
Prince

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« Reply #29 on: 06-14-2004 16:34 »

Do you think that if she had become reurring, then she might have got a little annoying, I think that any long-term connections and reminders of Fry's past might ruin the whole beauty of the show??
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #30 on: 06-14-2004 16:53 »

If she was a recurring character, then I'd expect she should be allowed to recurr once every season, two the most.  That way it wouldn't be as annoying as people say it would.
David A

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« Reply #31 on: 06-14-2004 16:59 »

Yeah, I wouldn't want to see her in every episode or anything like that; but I don't think it would have been annoying if she had showed up from time to time.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #32 on: 06-14-2004 17:01 »

Or if she had one liners often like Zapp, in "I Dated A Robot" for example.
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« Reply #33 on: 06-14-2004 17:16 »

ya know, I always liked "Cryonic Woman" I dont think it was GREAT, but just another i enjoyed nonetheless. But i gotta vote for A Pharoah to Remember. Bender as supreme overlord of a planet had so much potential...
Whoopwhoopwhoop

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« Reply #34 on: 06-14-2004 20:58 »

Of course i'd vote for number four...  It's my favorite episode in the season...
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« Reply #35 on: 06-14-2004 22:46 »

 
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Originally posted by Whoopwhoopwhoop:
Of course i'd vote for number four...  It's my favorite episode in the season...

hmmm, didnt think you liked it that much, lee. But whatever, it was a good episode nonetheless.

leelaholic

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« Reply #36 on: 06-15-2004 01:17 »

"The Cryonic Woman", for reasons already stated.
the offender

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« Reply #37 on: 06-15-2004 05:33 »

I think A Pharaoh to Remember is the best episode out of the 4 because, well really i love all Futurama episodes but bender and fry r probably my favourite characters and this particular episode had a lot of bender in it and fry has a lot of dumb things to say and i always think its funny so that's why i like this episode out of the 4 here but i still love the other ones too
the offender

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« Reply #38 on: 06-15-2004 05:47 »

hey david A and DrThunder88 how do u get to Urban Legend?
the offender

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« Reply #39 on: 06-15-2004 05:50 »

hey Nasty Pasty how do u get pictures on your message
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